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mixing in key for dummies

ok so ive heard of mixing trance in key but tbh i dont have a clue what it is and its ment to be the only way to construct a proper set having it all in the same key, so what is a key? how do you tell what key a tune is? do onli certain keys work together or do they all fit together?

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...58&forumid=8&s=

http://www.harmonic-mixing.com

thanks

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Originally posted by seval thanks

if you dont no what key your tracks are in. go to [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
to find the key for them.

or try Mixed in Key and have a program do all the work for you.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 or try Mixed in Key and have a program do all the work for you.

that costs money though mixshare is free.

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Originally posted by dj_kane that costs money though mixshare is free.

oh, I quickly read through the site. I thought it was a database of songs people have keyed and you can search existing songs. But it looks like you can detect the key of the song too.


good program.

Yar, I use Rapid Evolution 2. I check them by hand too, and it's been surprisingly accurate.

Or you can pay $60 for that "other" program.

i use mixmeister then double check them in rapid evolution. ive changed a few after checking.

Why not double check them by ear? Otherwise, how do you know which software program was correct?

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Originally posted by dj_kane i use mixmeister then double check them in rapid evolution. ive changed a few after checking.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Why not double check them by ear? Otherwise, how do you know which software program was correct?

Not very many of us can detect keys by ear, i wish i could.

Even with a keyboard? I mean, I can't do it by just listening either, and I took piano lessons for many years.

But with the keyboard it's pretty easy, although you do need to have some knowledge of how to build a chord and such.

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Originally posted by starboy Not very many of us can detect keys by ear, i wish i could.

With a keyboard yes, infact i already do that sometimes when i think mixshare off.. but to be able to detect by ear alone i havn't a clue

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Why not double check them by ear? Otherwise, how do you know which software program was correct?

i use my ear also but use the software to make sure.

i went and got that rapid evolution programme and did a bit of reading into what it was all about, i have to say after using evolution2 for a couple of hours i can tell the difference harmonic mixing has compared to picking up to tracks and throwing them together, some tunes still dont go perfect though i tried mixing everyday lange mix and play it louder didnt go at all but ive picked up the basics and with a bit more practise ill get the hang of it, as for picking it up by ear that seems pretty hard dont think id be able to do that

The way I do it is I open up traktor and play each song at a predetermined BPM. Then I open up flstudio, throw on a 3xosc and open up the piano role. Then I key every song by ear and arrange songs by their keys. This way you know that every song that's a C# for example at the predetermined bpm will always be in the same key when beatmatched at any bpm. This lets you not have to worry about using key lock to keep tracks in key and you can pitch your tracks up or down however many % you want and it'll always be in key with the other tracks.

Also with this method you can hear the various complementary keys using flstudio so you can change between keys from track to track without the melodies clashing horribly.

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Originally posted by D-res The way I do it is I open up traktor and play each song at a predetermined BPM. Then I open up flstudio, throw on a 3xosc and open up the piano role. Then I key every song by ear and arrange songs by their keys. This way you know that every song that's a C# for example at the predetermined bpm will always be in the same key when beatmatched at any bpm. This lets you not have to worry about using key lock to keep tracks in key and you can pitch your tracks up or down however many % you want and it'll always be in key with the other tracks. Also with this method you can hear the various complementary keys using flstudio so you can change between keys from track to track without the melodies clashing horribly.

ftw

yeah except that you run the risk of ruining harmonics set up by the producer

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Originally posted by D-res The way I do it is I open up traktor and play each song at a predetermined BPM. Then I open up flstudio, throw on a 3xosc and open up the piano role. Then I key every song by ear and arrange songs by their keys. This way you know that every song that's a C# for example at the predetermined bpm will always be in the same key when beatmatched at any bpm. This lets you not have to worry about using key lock to keep tracks in key and you can pitch your tracks up or down however many % you want and it'll always be in key with the other tracks. Also with this method you can hear the various complementary keys using flstudio so you can change between keys from track to track without the melodies clashing horribly.

no

why?

is mixshare as accurate as mix in key? this might bring up some controversy.. but whats the overall consensus?

There's some comparison tests that were done. The results showed Mixshare (Rapid Evolution) as being the more accurate... but I think Mixed in Key has had some upgrades since then.

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Originally posted by wink is mixshare as accurate as mix in key? this might bring up some controversy.. but whats the overall consensus?

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Originally posted by starboy no

por que

Downloaded Mixmeister yesterday and its pretty nifty to be honest.

Anyway, I just used it to scan my tracks that Im currently using for my techno mix and its quality - it gave each of my tracks a key note and then I displayed the tracks in order of key - then realised that my original track list order was way out so I thought I'd try and mix the tracks (on my cdj's) in the correct key order and it sounds awesome. They just sound right going into each other and its quite a smooth transition in most cases.

Only thing I need to find out now is if I change the pitch of the a track thats A#, does that alter the key? For example I've got a tune that is originally 130bpm and that tune has the same Key as another tune which is originally 135bpm - so I increase the pitch of the 130bpm to match the 135bpm track, does that mean that the key is now different?

Also, Mixmeister gives you two readings, such as: A# and 6b Key and Keynote. What's the difference between the two and which of the two should I be mixing together?

Cheers

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Originally posted by agentdansmith Only thing I need to find out now is if I change the pitch of the a track thats A#, does that alter the key? For example I've got a tune that is originally 130bpm and that tune has the same Key as another tune which is originally 135bpm - so I increase the pitch of the 130bpm to match the 135bpm track, does that mean that the key is now different?

i think the key changes when the pitch is over 4%

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