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Posted by beema on Jan-26-2007 19:16:

Direct X 10 Games -- what are your plans?

Well I've been mulling over a conundrum for a bit now.

With the release of Vista comes dx10. There aren't many dx10 games lined up yet, but the ones that are are droolarific. Namely Crysis and Hellgate: London. I pretty much want to buy Crysis the second it comes out.

So, in order to play these I need a dx10 video card. My current computer is pretty good, and it's only a year old, and I certainly don't want to scrap it yet. It could run Vista no prob, but a new dx10 card would require a new PSU and mobo for me -- which essentially means an entirely new computer. I don't really want to spend the money on a new rig right now. I've also been told it would be wise to wait for 2nd gen dx10 cards.

So are any of you guys planning on rushing out and getting new hardware for dx10 and vista?


Posted by weymouth on Jan-26-2007 19:22:

I only buy new computer stuff when I can't run new games on the lowest setting. So that allows me to buy a mid-range computer every 3-4 years. If I wanted to play every new game on the highest setting I would have to upgrade every 2 years and buy top quality stuff. It just isn't worth spending thousands of dollars more to see water sparkle more, nose hair, or make mud look more real.


Posted by TigerClaw on Jan-26-2007 22:05:

Right now its not a good time to upgrade to Vista. There aren't any games that take advantage of DX10 yet. There will be in about a year.


Posted by THE_Chris on Jan-27-2007 15:40:

Wait till Vista is out a few months and all the teething problems with vidcards/drivers/DX10 are sorted.

Also the inevitable hack that lets DX10 be installed on XP machines


Posted by TigerClaw on Jan-27-2007 16:52:

Another problem I see with Vista is its DRM restrictions. In order to see HD premium content. You must have a video card and monitor that is HDCP compliant, If they aren't, The videos will be downgraded on purpose. Vista is being built as a DRM platform and it will limit what you can and can't do with the content.


Posted by Bega on Jan-27-2007 17:10:

probably late 08/09. I might buy a dual core processor when they get cheap enough, but I basically overhauled every part of my box this last summer. UT3 should work fine on this, and that's really one of the only upcoming games I really want to play.


Posted by malek on Jan-28-2007 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by weymouth
I only buy new computer stuff when I can't run new games on the lowest setting. So that allows me to buy a mid-range computer every 3-4 years. If I wanted to play every new game on the highest setting I would have to upgrade every 2 years and buy top quality stuff. It just isn't worth spending thousands of dollars more to see water sparkle more, nose hair, or make mud look more real.


you meant every 3 months right?


Posted by zokissima on Jan-29-2007 14:05:

I bought some new components about a year ago. Not in a hurry to upgrade. I'll wait for a year or so before I go for a completely new box.


Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on Jan-30-2007 23:58:

Im waiting until the R680 or R700 comes out. I will wait for the A15 silicon to appear on the cards (much higher working clocks than the A12 for the R600).


Posted by babyvsrhino on Jan-31-2007 10:02:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
you meant every 3 months right?

Video cards only come out once or twice a year now, but its typically big improvements.

My plan is to wait until ati puts out a dx10 card and see how it stacks up to the 8800 or whatever nvidia has out by that time, until then my 1950s in crossfire should be just fine.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-31-2007 21:43:

i have an 8800 but i bought it coz it was fast, not coz it was dx10 ready. i cant see myself upgrading to vista anytime soon. i really doubt the differences between 9 & 10 will be worth it. and all games will run worse under vista. ill wait a while til vista is cheaper and bug-tested by all the keener nerds out there.


Posted by malek on Feb-01-2007 04:50:

quote:
Originally posted by babyvsrhino
Video cards only come out once or twice a year now, but its typically big improvements.

My plan is to wait until ati puts out a dx10 card and see how it stacks up to the 8800 or whatever nvidia has out by that time, until then my 1950s in crossfire should be just fine.



yeah and new cpus every 6 months, new chipsets every year, new memory, new hard drive interfaces, etc etc.

they don't all come out at the same time, so its impossible to stay on the edge more than a couple of months at most.


Posted by Fledz on Feb-01-2007 11:24:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i have an 8800 but i bought it coz it was fast, not coz it was dx10 ready. i cant see myself upgrading to vista anytime soon. i really doubt the differences between 9 & 10 will be worth it. and all games will run worse under vista. ill wait a while til vista is cheaper and bug-tested by all the keener nerds out there.


No, they will run worse at the beginning, but once proper drivers are released and everything is patched up, games and apps should run quicker. Might be waiting a while for that though.

I just bought a laptop with a Geforce 7950GTX so I'm hoping DX10 games don't become mainstream until at least 2008 as I can't upgrade this


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-01-2007 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
No, they will run worse at the beginning, but once proper drivers are released and everything is patched up, games and apps should run quicker. Might be waiting a while for that though.


i seriously seriously doubt it. games that were both XP & 98 compliant always ran better on 98. not that 98 was a better OS, but it just took a lot less juice to run.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-02-2007 04:07:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i seriously seriously doubt it. games that were both XP & 98 compliant always ran better on 98. not that 98 was a better OS, but it just took a lot less juice to run.


hmmm, seems i might be a bit off. theres a comparison between xp & vista with dx9 on gamespot. seems theyre reasonably similar in terms of performance.


Posted by Fledz on Feb-02-2007 11:08:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
hmmm, seems i might be a bit off. theres a comparison between xp & vista with dx9 on gamespot. seems theyre reasonably similar in terms of performance.




Give it some time and things should be better. It's not really fair to compare a new OS so soon after it's release to one that's been out for 5 years



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