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Posted by Sonic7 on Jan-27-2007 12:28:

Advice on Speakers / Monitors

I want to buy a set of speakers for my PC for music production, mainly electronic / dance music.
I dont want to break the bank but want quality.
Any recomendations would be appreciated.
I would also like to use these for mixing on cdj decks.
I dont really know the difference between monitor speakers and standard ones other than monitors are mainly used for mixing on turntables.


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Jan-27-2007 16:29:

use the search button and use "monitors" as your query...certainly bound to get a lot of info out of that.

edit: a lot of people would recommend the behringer truth active monitors as they seem the best value for the money


Posted by i got big pants on Jan-27-2007 18:27:

the krk v or rp series are a good bang for the buck. also check out m-audio's bx5 or bx8. both those companies seem to make some pretty good monitors.

i personally like the bx5/8's. they don't color the sound that much, so for the most part, its relatively clean. that and the price for 2 monitors, is great imo.


Posted by Inny on Jan-27-2007 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
edit: a lot of people would recommend the behringer truth active monitors as they seem the best value for the money


I have the Behringer truth 2030A's, and I can honestly say that i'm very pleased with them. Although I don't have any reference material, since they're my first monitors. They sound very good for beginner monitors i think, and they're not really that expensive.


Posted by Rebel Brown on Jan-28-2007 13:25:

Monitors are preferred when your goal when listening is to hear the music exactly as it was made. I.e. most decent monitors will have what is known as a 'flat frequency response', which simply means that none of the frequency ranges will be boosted/reduced. Home speakers have a tendency of increasing the bass a little, not making them ideal for production purposes.

When shopping for your monitors you'll notice that they come in both 'passive' and 'active'. 'Passive' means that you will an external amplifier to drive them, 'active' means that they have already have an amp (in fact most have more than just one) built into the speaker itself, so they are simply a case of plug and play. Active speakers tend to be the better choice here, as the amplifiers are usually purpose built for the specifications of that particular speaker.

The next point is what kind of price range are you looking at?

The KRK Rokit series have an excellent reputation for clean sound and a fairly good price to boot. The Behringer Truth and M-Audio BX range that have been also been mentioned in this thread are worth looking at too. Most importantly, see if you can get to a shop where you can actually test some of the monitors out to see what you prefer, as not everyone has the same ears.


Posted by Sonic7 on Jan-28-2007 17:07:

Thanks everyone for the advice and info, its been very helpfull, im going to read up on a few of the speakers youve mentioned and test them out in a store, id say ill go for the active monitors and probably put more money into them as a long term investment.
Cheers.


Posted by richg101 on Jan-28-2007 21:47:



these should do the trick


Posted by DJ RANN on Jan-29-2007 14:42:

Inny - I've got to agreed with you on the truth's.

I hate behringer kit (cos most of it is cheap crap) but the Truth's are just great value and even though they don't match up to the Mackie HR824's that they are a clone of, they do sound really good. I haven't come across any speakers that sound as good for the money.


Posted by Cyberflow on Feb-02-2007 10:28:

@Rebel Brown : Nice post !

Thanx for the advice !


Posted by Rebel Brown on Feb-04-2007 19:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyberflow
@Rebel Brown : Nice post !

Thanx for the advice !



Posted by Cyberflow on Mar-01-2007 21:47:

Since i am a total noob into monitor speakers.

I saw this product on sale in a pawn shop in my town.

http://www.yorkville.com/products.a...3&cat=20&id=332

I was wondering if it sounds nice for a deal ?

They are selling them @ 300$ CAD for the pair.

Btw, i noticed they weren't any RCA connector into the back.

What would i need to connect my mixer to the studio speakers ?


Posted by tvmann on Mar-01-2007 23:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyberflow
Since i am a total noob into monitor speakers.

I saw this product on sale in a pawn shop in my town.

http://www.yorkville.com/products.a...3&cat=20&id=332

I was wondering if it sounds nice for a deal ?

They are selling them @ 300$ CAD for the pair.

Btw, i noticed they weren't any RCA connector into the back.

What would i need to connect my mixer to the studio speakers ?


Those look to be decent speakers, Yorkville has a good rep. The used price looks high, almost same as new price. Maybe offer them $150 and see what they counter you with, often those shops will come down a lot.

You should be able to plug your RCA mixer outs into the speaker 1/4" inputs since the speaker specs say 1/4" unbalanced is OK. You would need an adapter connector or cable. Similar with the XLR, you can get an RCA to XLR adapter, probably best place for these adapters is your local music/audio store.


Posted by Cyberflow on Mar-02-2007 00:08:

Thanx tvmann !

Il'l propose something to them ...

Cause truly 300$ is expensive for a used pair.

It's the retail price for new ones.

Il'l phone up my friend that works at solotech in montreal to inform me about the cost price.

Thanx !


Posted by echosystm on Mar-02-2007 12:51:

Behringer are very popular with DJs because you can push them louder than a lot of other monitors. Also, if you blow one up it's nothing to cry about. They're very good value for money in that regard.

If you want a set of monitor for production however, you need to consider other options. To a degree it's all about how well you know your speakers, but you still want the best you can afford; Behringers are cheap and you get what you pay for.

I don't really want to gp into the X vs. Y debate. Go and listen to a bunch yourself and buy the ones you like the best. Don't listen to any sales people. Remember to listen SMART. "BIG" bass and "BIG" highs are not what you want, you want an even sound across the entire range. If they sound impressive you probably shouldn't buy them.

I will forewarn you about the KRK RP series though; they are far from flat and are highly over rated. They are the classic example of exaggerated lows and highs to trick people into buying them. They're not even loud - get them to set all the monitors to 0db and run the same line volume through, you'll be amazed at how piss weak they are. We found the 5" Tapco monitors were louder than the 8" RP8 haha.

If you do not believe me about the KRKs, listen to them, then quickly swap over to any other decent monitor such as high end EMES (known to be extremely flat). Doing that should make the downfalls in KRKs design very clear.

Event TR6 and TR8 models are similarly priced to the RPs, and are far better engineered. I think that is the cut off point, if you go any higher than that you might as well get Mackies. Understand this; KRK RP*s are not complete shit, but you can do a lot better in my oppinion. At the end of the day, if you like to mix with a more uneven balance, that is entirely your descision. Theres no reason you cant bust a reasonable mix on them.



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