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A HUGE ebay issue...need ya'lls advice.

This is seriously starting to piss me off. heres the issue. I recently bought a Aalto - 5 Promo vinyl on ebay for about $17 total including shipping (London). The guy emails me about 5 days ago and says that the reason he hasnt left me feedback (keep in mind I left him a + feedback back in December when the transaction was made) is because he just now found out that his bank charges him an extra �8 (USD about $15) to transfer those funds into his account. Ok, first and foremost, you dont fucking sell to international bidders without consulting with your bank about issues like these, am I right? Second, at ANY GIVEN TIME did he mention anything about that in the listing. If I would have known that he was going to be charged that kinda money and thus adding it on to the shipping charges, I then would have NOT bidded on that vinyl (I could get it for much cheaper through Anjunabeats). Here is a copy of the message I got this morning:

"hi mate, yes totally accept there has a been a problem, however please bare in mind this was a first off for me having a buyer pay in this way. i have since revised all listings with paypal only to prevent any further payment issue. i will send back your cheque tomorrow. i was totally unaware of any bank charges for overseas payments and to be honest its a bit crap from the customer perspective i am sure you will agree. i apreciate you making the time to help overcome this situation and am truely sorry it has occured (in hindsight i was surprised at the continual reference to me giving you a good deal, i know my postage price is very competitive). i hope we can resolve it quickly and easily. many thanks in advance, and sorry for the hassle"

I think this is horse shit. I think this guy needs a pipe bomb in his ass. Besides, I already left him a good feedback for sending the vinyl...and he even sent it LATE (but i honored the fact that it was during the holidays so no biggie). I have received no feedback from this cat. What should I do? Cancel my account again like I did back in March of last year? I am not accepting that negative feedback bullshit for no payment. If I get that money order back in the mail I am gonna cash the bitch myself and keep the money and just cancel my ebay account because this is bullshit. Actually, I'll wait till I get my AVB vinyl and then cancel.

He fucked up, you got your item and he's sending your money back and didn't even allude that he wants you to pay the whole. Sounds like except for the monumental waste of time this guy put you through, you're the one coming out on top. eBay has its share of moron fuckwits, and every now and again you stumble across one, but that's not a reason to shut down the whole thing. I've had one bad incident with an eBay buyer, and they're no longer registered and I'm still there. You can respond to feedback left, so even if he throws a negative on there you can rebut. More likely, he won't leave feedback at all.

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Originally posted by Zeonfiend He fucked up, you got your item and he's sending your money back and didn't even allude that he wants you to pay the whole. Sounds like except for the monumental waste of time this guy put you through, you're the one coming out on top. eBay has its share of moron fuckwits, and every now and again you stumble across one, but that's not a reason to shut down the whole thing. I've had one bad incident with an eBay buyer, and they're no longer registered and I'm still there. You can respond to feedback left, so even if he throws a negative on there you can rebut. More likely, he won't leave feedback at all.

So what should I do as far as that money order being sent back to me? I mean if I dont send it back after a while, emails will start flying from him. I guess I could ignore him in that case, but that would call for a neg.feedback. I wont shut down my ebay account, but right now I only have a score of 1, so a negativve feedback (if he leaves one) will bring me back down to 0. I hate ******s like that. lol

p.s. i dont have paypal, by the way, for the reason that the last time i had an account with them i got scammed and was withdrawn $70 from a bank in germany. dont even know how that happened.

^^^ word (EDIT: @ nath.tx). Doesn't sound like that big of a deal mate... my advice is to use paypal in future. It's piss easy. In any case, if he asks for the whole amount including the extra charges, tell the limey bastard to cock off. He had no right in charging you any more than he originally asked, and seeing as he has sent back the 'correct' amount that you mailed him, he's just fucked himself over.

short version plz.

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ ^^^ word (EDIT: @ nath.tx). Doesn't sound like that big of a deal mate... my advice is to use paypal in future. It's piss easy. In any case, if he asks for the whole amount including the extra charges, tell the limey bastard to cock off. He had no right in charging you any more than he originally asked, and seeing as he has sent back the 'correct' amount that you mailed him, he's just fucked himself over.

Well again, PayPal is under my "Restricted Zone", so to speak. I dont want anything to do with paypal because if in case I do get scammed again I dont want to have to close my account and re-open for a new one. I'd have to give about 20 different people and places my routing number and I just dont have time for that. It's something I'll keep in mind though. As for the cocky bastard, I totally agree with you guys. He fucked himself over...and will do so even worse by sending me the money order. Im not paying shit back to him. Right now I'm in the process of looking for the stub to that money order to see if I can cash it in or just deposit it in my account. He can leave negative feedback if he wants, I dont care.

Thanks you guys for the advice. My morning went well until I received that email around 7:40am from that cat.

Don't use ebay. I stopped using it a long time ago..

^^^ worst advice EVAR.

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ ^^^ worst advice EVAR.

lol. w3rd

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ ^^^ worst advice EVAR.

Ebay is fucking retarded. After all the fee's and shit.. no one is making shit unless your selling some crap you found in your basement from 1930 and you sell it to an idiot.

It isn't the worst advice ever.... your just a fuckin' newb.


Edit: let me also say, learn to shop. You can probably find this Aalto record for much cheaper here in the US or even over sea's. It's a bit dated.. especially now. Cut your loss of time, and just find it... www.google.com <--- amazing.


kthxbye

Actually yeah the fees for selling shit are pretty fucked. However you can still get good deals and find hard-to-find shit on the cunt, so get HIV dickhead.

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ Actually yeah the fees for selling shit are pretty fucked. However you can still get good deals and find hard-to-find shit on the cunt, so get HIV dickhead.

So true. Many times if you google something you want to buy the best price turns out to be ebay.

ebay

I've used eBay a lot in the past for selling old junk that people always seem to want to buy, it amazes me.

first keep all your emails involving the issue, they might be useful later on.

If he sends you the vinyl and the money order he is just stupid, its his fault he lost money on the deal due to the fees, not yours. Unless you agreed on some alternate payment you could probably get away with not paying (that's between you and your conscious) but he could take you to the mediation process where your emails could be helpful in explaining what happened but you would probably still have to pay (the original price) unless you claim you never received the money order and he can't refute your claim. Its an annoying process but it sometimes works... likewise if you don't get your product or your money order then I would file a complaint with the mediation process, they will get you one or the other back.

as a buyer, I would never leave feedback until you have the product in hand and have checked it out.

I know you said you don't like paypal but it is probably the best way to deal with that type of transaction. My advice on that is never keep a lot of money in your account, I stay under $30 unless I'm about to purchase something, and never open paypal through an email, they are usually spam looking to steal your info. It's annoying and stupid but I always open paypal from the eBay site, that way I know its safe. And it doesn't hurt to change your password every once in a while just to be safe.

just my thoughts

Re: ebay

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Originally posted by ARCHcowboy I've used eBay a lot in the past for selling old junk that people always seem to want to buy, it amazes me. first keep all your emails involving the issue, they might be useful later on. If he sends you the vinyl and the money order he is just stupid, its his fault he lost money on the deal due to the fees, not yours. Unless you agreed on some alternate payment you could probably get away with not paying (that's between you and your conscious) but he could take you to the mediation process where your emails could be helpful in explaining what happened but you would probably still have to pay (the original price) unless you claim you never received the money order and he can't refute your claim. Its an annoying process but it sometimes works... likewise if you don't get your product or your money order then I would file a complaint with the mediation process, they will get you one or the other back. as a buyer, I would never leave feedback until you have the product in hand and have checked it out. I know you said you don't like paypal but it is probably the best way to deal with that type of transaction. My advice on that is never keep a lot of money in your account, I stay under $30 unless I'm about to purchase something, and never open paypal through an email, they are usually spam looking to steal your info. It's annoying and stupid but I always open paypal from the eBay site, that way I know its safe. And it doesn't hurt to change your password every once in a while just to be safe. just my thoughts

I already have the vinyl dude. He already sent it. Thats not the issue though. My mistake was, like you said, that I gave him a feedback as soon as I received the vinyl and he received the money order. Here's the problem with these assholes on eBay.

They see that I only have 1 positive feedback, as opposed to their 2000+ feedbacks. Of course, they are going to want me to leave them a feedback first because even if I dont leave them a feedback it matters not. It matters if I get the feedback, but not them because 1 negative on a person with 2000 positives is nothing. I, on the other hand, just started and have only 1 positive right now (supposed to have 2). He can easily fuck me over and im back down at 0. That gives them something to laugh at, and feel like they have seniority over the issue, I would think.

If I receive the money order, I am going to lie to that bastard and act like I never got it. That way, I'll have my chance to fuck him over too. Secondly, I'm pretty sure the next email will say that he is going to want me to send back the vinyl, which I am not. He did give me a good deal on the vinyl (just $13 shipping included), but that is irrelavent when it comes to him wanting me to cough up another $16 because of something he made the mistake of. Not gonna happen.

I'll definitly do what you said about the mediation process thing. Hopefully eBay can hack into my messages and see what he has written me and what I have told him in reply.

And the PayPal thing, I'm still not doing it bro. I am a college student, architecture major, soon to be in grad school in Syracuse, New York in about 2 years, and have bills and debts up the ass. I can't waste time opening and closing accounts because of some wacko trying to hack into my shit using my info. I won't risk it.

Thanks anyways for your advise though. I'll definitly consider taking these matters into the hands of the eBay staff before the issue worsens. I'm waiting on an Armin Van Buuren - Burned With Desire 12" right now and a Signalrunners - Aria Epica (Claessen Mix) 12" as well. Let's see how this goes...

ARCHcowboy is a smart guy you should listen to him

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ ARCHcowboy is a smart guy you should listen to him

w3rd...semi-w3rd

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