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You can get the Stanton CM205 for about $600 AUS, and that is the absolute max I can go, I want a bit cheaper if possible.
http://www.stantondj.com/v2/prod_cm205.asp

What do others think of this?

Assuming that this would be your primary setup and you don't have any other decks, I would say don't go for it. I don't like having all my gear fused together like that. It doesn't allow for flexibility in performance. For $600 you can get two comparable tabletop cdj's and a mixer that you can grow with.

keep in mind its $600 AUS not USA

cheers.

So even at $470us...

You can get this setup:
Stanton CD Turntable Package

Or you can mix-and-match something like this:
Behringer DJX-700 Mixer Stanton C-303 Tabletops CD turntables

If you wanna save up a few more dollars, you can get these:
Numark CD Player/Mixer/Case Package Gemini White Digital DJ Package

Contrary to what many think, it's not the decks where the magic happens. It's the mixer. Portable units like the one you showed are used primarily for secondary setups. They're simple to use and simple in function. If you're serious about dj'ing, invest in equipment you can grow with. Since you mixer is where you're gonna be doing most of the action (fading, cueing, eq'ing, etc), you should get a piece of equipment that you will be able to grow and learn off of.

The setups I showed you are available online and the company usually ships for free on orders over $300us. Just some food for thought. Enjoy.

ok thanks! the first 2 links didn't work for me but the last 2 did. so u think those numark and gemini mixes you showed are better than the Stanton ones I suggested?

Cheers!

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Originally posted by Xavi ok thanks! the first 2 links didn't work for me but the last 2 did. so u think those numark and gemini mixes you showed are better than the Stanton ones I suggested? Cheers!

Well, Numark, Gemini, and Stanton run a similar quality of product. So saying one is better than the other is strictly based on personal opinion. Choose the gear that YOU think would work best for you. I only suggested steering away from the one-piece systems because they don't allow for growth as your skills evolve as a dj. Also, it's tougher to get rid of a simple unit like that because the resale is cheap.

If you get the cheap digital decks and are ready for an upgrade or say you want to experiment with vinyl or plug in a laptop, it would be tough to do with that all-in-one rig. For the links that didn't work, you can go to the website (www.pssl.com) and search for the product. I put them up as the show on the site.

Enjoy and happy playing.

i run a gemini dual CD deck system....I LIKE my gear fused together...very very easy to pick up and throw in a bag - i like the portability and having every button for both decks at my fingertips.

some people want the "look" of a traditional Dj set up however...you know, a mixer with two decks (of some kind) on either side of it...

but all this gear, they don't have very big jog wheels do they? won't beat matching be difficult?

thanks

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Originally posted by DJ Z i run a gemini dual CD deck system....I LIKE my gear fused together...very very easy to pick up and throw in a bag - i like the portability and having every button for both decks at my fingertips. some people want the "look" of a traditional Dj set up however...you know, a mixer with two decks (of some kind) on either side of it...

I don't buy into things like the "look" of things. For me it's about being adaptable. I'm always thinking about the big picture. Which is why I push separate units. As a dj and musician, you should always be looking for ways to expand your performance. I've worked with all-in-one units before and they're very limiting.

As for the "jog wheel", it's usually a huge platter-esque wheel or a dial right below the display. These things (along with the "pitch-bend" feature) are usually pretty accurate. If you're off by much more, then you probably need to work on your timing of the tracks.

i'm a HUGE advocate of purpose built gear

my turntables play vinyl

my cd decks play cds

and my mixer mixes

the more bells and whistles, the more things that can break

and more often than not

it works better in the long run

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Originally posted by Tony Morello i'm a HUGE advocate of purpose built gear my turntables play vinyl my cd decks play cds and my mixer mixes the more bells and whistles, the more things that can break and more often than not it works better in the long run

Yep. And my FX unit does FX... yeah so it's quite useful having a mixer that does too, but if you want to be guaranteed the same FX wherever you play then external FX are the way forward.

But this applies across the board - if you're playing in a club without CDJs (there are more of these than you might think) and you decide to take your own, you just wanna be taking the minimum amount of kit you have to, i.e. your 2 CDJs... not a whole dual CDJ and mixer combo

dude, i'd recommned buying just 1 CDJ, after making friends with someone who spins, and using it at his house with his other gear.

DO NOT spend 600 bucks on something that you will regret (and YOU WILL).

on the other hand, i have a friend who bought a crap ass setup, and it was so crap, the first day he got on a pair of CDJ-1000s, it was so easy to him after coming from using a piece of shit. he started getting booked, but his home setup had died. he spent the following year or two, being a very talented DJ who had no gear at home.

if you buy shit stuff, yes, you might be able to learn on it, but you can rest assured it will die soon, and it will suck while it's still alive. if you CAN'T go for anything more than 600, well, then i think this game isn't for you this is an expensive fucking hobby.

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Originally posted by Inertia this is an expensive fucking hobby.

Plus a big fat motherfucking hairy balled 1.

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Originally posted by Rebel Brown Plus a big fat motherfucking hairy balled 1.

I agree. But I also recommend learning on crap equipment. I hate to see newbies shell out 1000's of dollars on premier equipment only to find that the hobby is not for them. All you benefit is people like me who don't mind scooping up the realtively new gear for less than retail price for a second setup.

i agree, it's pretty pretentious for a newbie to go out and buy CDJ-1000Mk3s and a XONE:92 mixer.

however, i don't fully recommend buying shit. it's just a bad investment. what if it really isn't for you? shitty resale value. perhaps you would like it more if the gear didn't suck as much too.

i think the best way to go about it is based on luck. if you're as lucky as i was and have a good friend with decks that won't mind you making fucking disgusting trainwrecks for a few hours 2-3 times a week for a while, you are SET. you learn to mix with a friend helping you, which really helps out when you are stumped, and, you learn if you really like this for free.

i spent about a year spinning with my friend, and having gotten decent within about 2 months, he really didn't mind me at all. i became his spinning buddy basically. a year later, i started buying my own gear. i still haven't been able to afford a full setup, so we put all our gear together.

getting a friend who spins isn't that hard, if you know a lot about music. if you become friends with a DJ, you know your shit, and you are genuinely eager to learn because you like it and not based on image, i'm pretty sure you'll be helped out.

at least if you spend cash on quality gear and you find it's not for you, the resale value is still high

Mentoring is such a lost art these days. Everybody wants to be a rock-star the minute they buy thier gear. They get equipment they have no clue how to use and expect to naturally get booked immediately. I agree. My apologies for assuming the mentoring process to being a precursor to taking the next step to actually getting your own gear.

I'm not for buying absolute crap gear, that's for sure. There's products out there that a middle road gear that works fine and doesn't cost you two month's salary. Spending thousands on top-of-the-line gear just isn't wise when you're first starting out. The resale on sub-industry standard gear isn't as bad as one might think. There's always somebody (like yourself) looking for gear for cheap.

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Originally posted by Tony Morello at least if you spend cash on quality gear and you find it's not for you, the resale value is still high

Yep, this is a big part of it IMO.

Although that doesn't mean you need top of the range. I've always thought beginners should start out on the lower ranges made by the quality brands, e.g. the cheaper Vestax mixers - a VMC002XL clocks in at about �125, will still be completely intact 18 months later and will probably fetch about �100 if you decide to sell, or will make a solid spare mixer if you decide to upgrade.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox Yep, this is a big part of it IMO. Although that doesn't mean you need top of the range. I've always thought beginners should start out on the lower ranges made by the quality brands, e.g. the cheaper Vestax mixers - a VMC002XL clocks in at about �125, will still be completely intact 18 months later and will probably fetch about �100 if you decide to sell, or will make a solid spare mixer if you decide to upgrade.

I second on Vestax mixers. I had a four-channel PMC-15V. That thing was a TANK. Desert parties, one-off's at the beach, weekly club nights, it handled it all. Five years and never had to replace even a fader. When it died, I lost an output channel. I was crushed.

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