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Posted by Fir3start3r on Feb-08-2007 02:15:

Satan (eek!) RPGs have just become a thing of the past...

doh

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This video shows a Land Based Phalanx Weapons System, also known as a C-RAM or Counter Rocket/Artillery Mortar System. The LBWS fires a zillion rounds at an unbelievable rate of speed at an incoming projectile, artillery shell or cruise missile and destroys it mid-air. It was first developed for the US Navy to protect ships from cruise missile attacks. It has been refined a bit since then. In this case, it is taking out small mortar shells in Balad, Iraq.




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Posted by jonSun on Feb-08-2007 02:18:

Thats awesome


Posted by Magnetonium on Feb-08-2007 02:20:



Whoa, nice find


Posted by occrider on Feb-08-2007 02:47:

All that can fit on a humvee?


Posted by Omega_M on Feb-11-2007 00:07:

ZOMG !!


Posted by Fir3start3r on Feb-11-2007 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
All that can fit on a humvee?


Flatbed truck actually and that's most likely for the all the ammo it has to carry...


Posted by pmoisse on Feb-11-2007 00:24:

Ok, that's some fuckin cool beans.

I'm kind of surprised they waited this long to mount a Phalanx gun on the back of a truck.


Posted by Q5echo on Feb-11-2007 02:27:

those things are ridiculously wicked but those 30mm bullets gotta fall somewhere. i don't know how well that would go over anywhere other than a big empty ocean.

there was an incident at Pearl Harbor a few years back when one of the destroyers stationed there was performing some routine maintenance on their Phalanx (CWIS they call it) while in port. i'm not sure on the details but they accidently shot off 3 depleted uranium rounds off into an Aeia Heights neighborhood 7 miles away. they didn't hit anything fortunately and it took the Navy a week to find the rounds. needless to say the Navy doesn't let boats perform that maintenance in port anymore.


Posted by Yoepus on Feb-11-2007 03:56:

sounds like one very big fart to me.


Posted by Q5echo on Feb-12-2007 04:50:

i just read that thing is firing "self-destruct" rounds!

thats the crackling thunder-like sound you hear after the end of the firing cycle.

too cool.


Posted by Dopey on Feb-12-2007 07:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
those things are ridiculously wicked but those 30mm bullets gotta fall somewhere. i don't know how well that would go over anywhere other than a big empty ocean.


exactly, "militants" will just stand in front of 100 schoolchildren while firing their RPGs. but I guess it will be easier to spot/avoid 100 schoolchildren than one guy on a rooftop.


Posted by XaNaX on Feb-12-2007 15:03:

Even more badass:

Metal Storm


Posted by Fir3start3r on Feb-12-2007 15:11:

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
Even more badass:

Metal Storm


Yea, my buddy was tellin' me about this on Friday after I showed him the Phalanx


Posted by XaNaX on Feb-12-2007 16:47:

The best part about the metal storm is that they have handgun and rifle sized versions also


Posted by occrider on Feb-13-2007 07:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Flatbed truck actually and that's most likely for the all the ammo it has to carry...


Right. Well what I was getting at was that until it can fit on a humvee RPGs will always have some use.


Posted by Omega_M on Feb-13-2007 16:52:

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Originally posted by XaNaX
Even more badass:

Metal Storm


I think Phalanx and Metal Storm are 2 completely different classes of weapon systems and Phalanx appears to be significantly more powerful than Metal Storm. The badass version of Phalanx is actually the Rolling Airframe Missile or RIM-116 since it seems that Phalanx, which is primarily an anti-missile system, is incapable of dealing with some of the modern threats.

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Sea RAM has been developed as direct replacement for the much shorter ranged gun-based Phalanx system, which unlike RAM is not able to deal with multiple targets coming in simultaneously and has lower kill chances, especially against erratic moving missiles. It combines Phalanx' hardware (radar and mount) with an 11 cell RAM launcher to produce an autonomous system, which does not need any external information to engage threats. Sea RAM thus can (like Phalanx) be fitted to all kind of ships, e.g. also on replenishment ships which usually do not have integrated combat systems and only limited sensors.


Posted by XaNaX on Feb-13-2007 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
I think Phalanx and Metal Storm are 2 completely different classes of weapon systems and Phalanx appears to be significantly more powerful than Metal Storm. The badass version of Phalanx is actually the Rolling Airframe Missile or RIM-116 since it seems that Phalanx, which is primarily an anti-missile system, is incapable of dealing with some of the modern threats.


Agreed, I dunno which one is "more powerful" but the Metal Storm would be unreal for area denial, anti-vehicular and anti-personnel applications.


Posted by pmoisse on Feb-13-2007 19:32:

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Originally posted by XaNaX
Agreed, I dunno which one is "more powerful" but the Metal Storm would be unreal for area denial, anti-vehicular and anti-personnel applications.


I think it would be a violation of the Geneva Conventoin to use this gun system on exposed infantry. I can't remember where I read it, but large calibre machine guns are only "permitted" for use against vehicles and buildings.

Yes, I know these rules often go out the window in the heat of battle.

They could also use it for clearing a path through a minefield.


Posted by XaNaX on Feb-14-2007 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by pmoisse
I think it would be a violation of the Geneva Conventoin to use this gun system on exposed infantry. I can't remember where I read it, but large calibre machine guns are only "permitted" for use against vehicles and buildings.

Yes, I know these rules often go out the window in the heat of battle.

They could also use it for clearing a path through a minefield.


That is the beauty of it, the system uses rounds no different than those used in battle against infantry now. 40mm grenades, 9mm, .223, and .308.

I'm not sure that it is any kind of violation anyway, attack helicopters and armored vehicles will often have a 20mm or 30mm cannon and I'm sure it is fired at troops in battle.


Posted by pmoisse on Feb-14-2007 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
That is the beauty of it, the system uses rounds no different than those used in battle against infantry now. 40mm grenades, 9mm, .223, and .308.


These are all ok from what I remember

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I'm not sure that it is any kind of violation anyway, attack helicopters and armored vehicles will often have a 20mm or 30mm cannon and I'm sure it is fired at troops in battle.


These are too big to use against a bunch of dudes (apparently). The grey area comes when the helicopter of Bradley IFV attacks mechanized infantry and dudes get in the way etc etc. Fog of war, bigtime.

Again, I might have misread something regarding this.


Posted by Aquadyne on Feb-14-2007 05:57:

I'm not sure if anyone noticed but this isn't an RPG killer and it states so in description.

This weapon is designed to destroy incoming "arcing" munitions, such as artillery shells, cruise missiles, mortar shells, etc.

RPG rounds are not "arcing" munitions, they are aimed directly at the target, not upwards - thus making it too difficult to intercept with this weapon.


Posted by XaNaX on Feb-15-2007 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquadyne
I'm not sure if anyone noticed but this isn't an RPG killer and it states so in description.

This weapon is designed to destroy incoming "arcing" munitions, such as artillery shells, cruise missiles, mortar shells, etc.

RPG rounds are not "arcing" munitions, they are aimed directly at the target, not upwards - thus making it too difficult to intercept with this weapon.


That is true. An RPG would be a very difficult weapon to intercept. Its typically fired from close range from behind cover from an unpredictable direction. Very hard to intercept.



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