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Sufjan Stevens vs. Signalrunners - Chicago (Club Mix) [incl. Sample]

Absolutely magnificent bootleg from the Signalrunners. I was so surprised to hear it on yesterday's Trance Around The World show. I really hope they get clearance and release it officially. If Sufjan Stevens is truly an advocate of indie music and creative freedom, then he'll definitely oblige. This would sound wicked in a club too - I can already imagine everyone singing along to the chorus, that would make for some very special moments. Only negative that might annoy some people is the trumpet (used overzealously maybe?), but I'm sure they could replace that with a wicked synth when/if they made the final, official track. Check it out!

Source: Trance Around The World 150 (06.02.2007)
Codec: MP3
*Bitrate: 128kbps
**Length: 5:31

Download: http://www.rogepost.com/n/9581707475
Mirror: http://download.yousendit.com/112373D43FA648F4

* Same as the radio source used. Didn't realize TATW now airs on Party 107 @ 160kbps.
** Not the entire song, starts past any intro segment and faded out at the end before the transition into the next track is obvious.

i really hope sufjan never hears this. ill give signalrunners some credit for remixing a great song, but seriously, all it is some beats under the original. this isnt creativity.

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Originally posted by nutmeg i really hope sufjan never hears this. ill give signalrunners some credit for remixing a great song, but seriously, all it is some beats under the original. this isnt creativity.

It's peculiar that you say that. First, it is a bootleg remix as of right now, so they did sample the original full track - however, they filtered and equalized well and only took the beatless sections of the original to get the vocals and the trumpet and string melodies. They didn't only add beats, there is a lot more added than just a drum track. So much so, even a dub version would probably sound amazing. What would be a creative remix of this track in your opinion? If you are appealing to the idea of complexity and difference being the main creative ingridients, that is fallacious. F*ckin' up the vocals and creating a strange minimal atmosphere or adding some hip-hop beats or IDM sounds would be 'different' and arguably more unique than the trance style the Signalrunners employ, but it would certainly not mean there is a lot more creativity on display. In fact, a lot of producers have messed up vocals a lot and made very strange bootlegs and remixes of tracks that were originally very, very different - so you could say it's almost pretentious and unoriginal to do that sometimes. I think that applies to this song. Keeping the vocals, chorus and main melodic elements the same is really what the Signalrunners wanted to do. They liked that about the original track, but just wanted to make a very club-friendly, moving, powerful trance tune. The original is a nice song, but the drum track is nothing to rave about whatsoever. The vocalization and melodies are really what shines.

If you're some sort of indie purist, then I guess you're entitled to bounce away ideas like this, but I for one am always excited to see bootlegs by electronic artists, especially when amazing ones such as this one come around.

*goes off on a tangent*

It seems to me that the whole hyper-indie and art-rock scene often reeks of subtle, yet severe pretentiousness and self-absorbtion - and probably more so the fans than the artists.

"OMG! SUFJAN STEVENS JUST QUOTED A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE FOR LYRICS AND RECORDED IT IN HIS BEDROOM WITH AN ACOUSTIC GUITAR AND FLUTE! HE DIDNT EVEN MASTER IT OR DO ANY POSTPROCESSING! YOU CAN EVEN HEAR THE HISS OF THE BACKGROUND NOISE IN THE ROOM BECAUSE OF HIS CHEAP MICROPHONE! A CREATIVE GENIUS! A MASTERMIND!"

Exaggerated, but not really that far-fetched! I bet Sufjan snickers and giggles a lot when he makes songs and thinks of his fans.

I already enjoyed the original a lot (thanks to Little Miss Sunshine), but this remix is just awesome. I love the trumpet and the chorus! Hearing this track makes me very happy

i also like this song i thin its creative you must have fantasy to make this

Brilliant remix right here....

im all for edm artists remixing rock, rap, whatever. but I feel that this remix just isnt that great. thats all im saying.

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Originally posted by nutmeg im all for edm artists remixing rock, rap, whatever. but I feel that this remix just isnt that great. thats all im saying.

Agreed...

This is SHIT.

Really shit.

The pitch lock ruins the vocals, its sped up to where everything feels rushed, it looses all the originals effects from tempo.

Fuck it.

I'd seriously kick Signalrunners in the fuckin nuts if I saw them.

*edit*


GAH!

Listen to the original and listen to the tremolo in Sufjans voice, the pitch shift fucks that all to hell and you lose a lot of the emotion in the song.

This is just bad bad bad bad!

i personally don't think it sounds rushed at all. but thats all a matter of perception, becuase if the original is locked in your mind, then yeah, this may sound fucked up in comparison.

On earlier comments, i think its purely ignorent to say they only added a drum beat. Signalrunners worked wonders on the original (which i'm not really a fan of, but thats subjective). Listen to them back to back, and you'll see that they did a lot! This song would sound smashing in a club. I hope above & beyond will play it tomorrow in Toronto!

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Originally posted by djbruuen i personally don't think it sounds rushed at all. but thats all a matter of perception, becuase if the original is locked in your mind, then yeah, this may sound fucked up in comparison. On earlier comments, i think its purely ignorent to say they only added a drum beat. Signalrunners worked wonders on the original (which i'm not really a fan of, but thats subjective). Listen to them back to back, and you'll see that they did a lot! This song would sound smashing in a club. I hope above & beyond will play it tomorrow in Toronto!

They worked "wonders" on it?! Dude its a kick, a shoddy bass, some generic pads, and then a low pass filter on the build. Yea thats some wonder right there. No wonder trance has gone to shit if people are impressed by crap like this.

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Originally posted by Mattis They worked "wonders" on it?! Dude its a kick, a shoddy bass, some generic pads, and then a low pass filter on the build. Yea thats some wonder right there. No wonder trance has gone to shit if people are impressed by crap like this.

No wonder this community has gone to shit with ignorant people like you.

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Originally posted by Generation X No wonder this community has gone to shit with ignorant people like you.

You mean people who see the shit music for what it is?

I didn't know ignorance and apathy is what kept people listening to this music... sad if thats true...

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Originally posted by djbruuen i personally don't think it sounds rushed at all. but thats all a matter of perception

How? The first thing I noticed was that the vocals are choppy. Bad production, because they're not meant to be pitch-locked and sped up.

Man, how interesting it would be if the Signalrunners replied in this thread to the comments about the production being horrible, especially the somewhat technical comments about specific production elements or vocal sampling. I always laugh now-a-days when all sorts of "know-it-alls" really put down EDM productions as if they somehow can do better or know what had to be done to make a track better or the right way. I wonder why neither Mattis nor idoru can show us how a proper bootleg of this track or another would be done. Explain to me how the Signalrunners could've made the trance track they wanted to without modifying the vocal (essentially speeding it up)?

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Originally posted by Generation X Man, how interesting it would be if the Signalrunners replied in this thread to the comments about the production being horrible, especially the somewhat technical comments about specific production elements or vocal sampling. I always laugh now-a-days when all sorts of "know-it-alls" really put down EDM productions as if they somehow can do better or know what had to be done to make a track better or the right way. I wonder why neither Mattis nor idoru can show us how a proper bootleg of this track or another would be done. Explain to me how the Signalrunners could've made the trance track they wanted to without modifying the vocal (essentially speeding it up)?

It would be indeed be interesting.

1.) Who said we could do better?
2.) Who said we knew it all? How does my pointing out one flaw display that I feel that I know everything about production?
3.) Pitch-locking the vocal and speeding it up may work great with lots of tunes, but it's fucking OBVIOUS that it didn't with this tune. Excuse me for pointing out something so blatant. I played the sample back to my 16 year-old brother, who knows little (if any) about EDM, and he said the vocal sample sounded choppy. If that doesn't tell you how blatant it is, then I don't know what does. Also, the Trumpet sounds bad for the same reason, and it just doesn't fit in this type of a song.
4.) I love how just because we voice our subjective opinions on a track and point out blatant flaws that we're labeled as "know-it-alls" and "haters." I also love how you just assume we don't know anything about production, when this is the first time I've ever posted alongside you. Grow up.

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Originally posted by Generation X Man, how interesting it would be if the Signalrunners replied in this thread to the comments about the production being horrible, especially the somewhat technical comments about specific production elements or vocal sampling. I always laugh now-a-days when all sorts of "know-it-alls" really put down EDM productions as if they somehow can do better or know what had to be done to make a track better or the right way. I wonder why neither Mattis nor idoru can show us how a proper bootleg of this track or another would be done. Explain to me how the Signalrunners could've made the trance track they wanted to without modifying the vocal (essentially speeding it up)?

First off, fuck you, you don't know me.

Second they shouldn't have made a trance remix of this to begin with. The original gains nothing from being remixed in this style.

The track sounds like shit to me and most everyone else I gave the link to agrees.

Maybe I will make a proper bootleg? It wouldnt be trance I'll tell you that straight off.

just to end this rediculous argument...i like the song, other people like the song too, some people don't like the song, life will go on

done.

haha it dousnt matter the pitch but if you want to kick them in the nuts my pleasure

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Originally posted by Mattis Agreed... This is SHIT. Really shit. The pitch lock ruins the vocals, its sped up to where everything feels rushed, it looses all the originals effects from tempo. Fuck it. I'd seriously kick Signalrunners in the fuckin nuts if I saw them. *edit* GAH! Listen to the original and listen to the tremolo in Sufjans voice, the pitch shift fucks that all to hell and you lose a lot of the emotion in the song. This is just bad bad bad bad!

I am personally not a fan of this track..it's bleh...seems to cheesy for my likes..but hey :-\

Love this. The vocal is devlishly catchy and i can definately see it working well in clubs. does verge on the cheesy side though to be fair

good song, good remix

I didnt like this tune.

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Originally posted by gizzymcg Love this. The vocal is devlishly catchy and i can definately see it working well in clubs. does verge on the cheesy side though to be fair

Have you heard the original, and are you an idiot?


Answering yes to the first means a yes to the second.

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Originally posted by telefax Have you heard the original, and are you an idiot? Answering yes to the first means a yes to the second.

are you retarded? How is it that if a track works well in a club and has catchy vocals mean it's cheese? Talk about a close minded judgement in music.

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Originally posted by StanVoid are you retarded? How is it that if a track works well in a club and has catchy vocals mean it's cheese? Talk about a close minded judgement in music.

How about the fact that producers shouldn't RAPE PERFECTLY DECENT SONGS TO MAKE THE "DANCABLE"

This song didn't need a remix. It isnt a dance song. These sorta remixes cheapen Electronic Dance Music as a whole.

Your remix of that Death Cab song was good. The song worked as a dance track (its pretty upbeat originally) but this song NO.

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