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Posted by Liamh on Feb-08-2007 16:11:

VST's That don't slaughter cpu... ?

What are your top tips for soft synths that don't completely destroy any processing power my laptop already doesn't have?

The problem i've got is for now i have a toshiba satelite laptop with a 1.2 GHZ processor, 40GB HD and 256mb ram so not particularly ideal but i'm stuck with it so i need to make the best of what i have... It's getting particularly annoying at the moment as i have battery, imposcar and audiorealism bassline running with sonalksis filter and the cubase built in delay (can't remember what it's called) but my tune won't play without stuttering and skipping then eventually cubase loses all interest and crashes..


Posted by Liamh on Feb-08-2007 16:16:

Sorry, maybe i should add that i've got novation bass station running aswell


Posted by cybernetica on Feb-08-2007 16:29:

First, read this great guide and try your best:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&postid=5282717

if you then still need good, CPU saving VSTs, good luck. I rarely see VSTs combining both.

For the bass, you could try VB-1, it sounds not so bad with filters and EQ on it.
For synths, I think that the cheaper VSTs by ReFX are not only money saving but also quite easy on the CPU. ReFX Claw, Juno... not ReFX Vanguard which can sometimes cause some HUGE cpu load, dont ask me why.
Also I shouldnt forget to mention the awesome Synth1 which is free and good for weaker cpu.

Like DigiNut mentioned in his tutorial, music production is VERY cpu and RAM intense. Id say you probably better upgrade your PC rather than buying new programs to suit your current PC specs. See, the first time I was really content with music production performance was when I got 2GB RAM.


Posted by G-Con on Feb-08-2007 16:31:

Sorry to say but that laptop is way under par for producing. Dont think there is a fat lot you can do but save money and upgrade. Get a desktop pc if you can - you'll get far more power for your money.

Other than that, stick to using the synths and effects that come with cubase. They should be far less computer hungry than 3rd party vsts. Disable all programs in the background - anti virus, spyware etc.

Any effects and synths you do use, be sure to turn off any feature that you arent using.

Use sends effects rather than inserts.

Create some loops with each synth, one at a time. Then bounce to audio before playing them all together.


Posted by ASFSE on Feb-08-2007 19:19:

quote:
Originally posted by G-Con
Sorry to say but that laptop is way under par for producing.


Posted by itsamemario on Feb-08-2007 20:34:

I heard NI Massive was pretty easy on the CPU.. Sylenth1 as well... :P


Posted by KilldaDJ on Feb-08-2007 21:14:

v-station? that doesnt do the CPU in so much

id also suggest some of the reFX synths, they dont tend to hog much cpu either, but yeah as somebody else mentioned in the thread, the system u are producing on is below adequate for producing, most definately.


Posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ on Feb-08-2007 21:59:

haha thats not bad i produced on a 333mhz laptop with 128mb of ram for the longest time given i did bounce it all.


Posted by Storyteller on Feb-08-2007 22:42:

75mhz pentium 1 until 4 years ago
I almost got a record deal with it too hahaha.

Synth1 would be fairly friendly.
Try to look for the older plugins .


Posted by DigiNut on Feb-09-2007 00:47:

It's really not the VST that slaughters the CPU, it's the patch. The more complex the patch, the more CPU time it's going to require.

Some effects, like reverb, simply require a lot of processing to do well, and there is no such thing as fast AND good.

Unfortunately, what others here have pointed out is true - your computer specs are really, really low for this. I used to have an Athlon XP 1800+ desktop with a gig of RAM, and one of the better Creative sound cards, and I upgraded about two years ago because it was way underpowered for production. The specs you're describing are even less powerful than that, so I'm sorry to say that I think you're SOL here.


Posted by kitphillips on Feb-09-2007 07:44:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_alfi
I heard NI Massive was pretty easy on the CPU.. Sylenth1 as well... :P


Heh, don't be mean.

You're system is crap, thats ok, at least you realise it. try Fm8 I find it good, refx plugins are good, maybe also Pro 53. stay away from stuff like massive, zeta, etc. I think albino might be fairly CPU friendly but I'm not sure. As a point of comparison, fm8 takes 4% of CPU for me usually, massive can take up to 80! Hope that helps a little.


Posted by Liamh on Feb-09-2007 11:25:

Nice one for the replies guys.. yeah, i know the lappy's far too underpowered... i'm saving at the minute for a new computer that's up to the job but they don't come cheap so it's gonna take a few months


Posted by richg101 on Feb-09-2007 14:13:

your pc is absolutely fine for music production. you will just have to get used to bouncing your synths to audio. cubase was running on pc's of your spec ages ago, sequencing audio to a professional degree. im sure 16 tracks of audio is an easy task for your pc.

it takes a little more time, but it will lengthen the life of your pc till you can afford a new one.


Posted by Liamh on Feb-09-2007 14:34:

"Bounce your synths to audio" - You know this is something i never thought of I've got me kick and all percussion bounced to audio i can't believe i didn't think to do the same with the synths... i guess that's about the end of that then.. Thanks!


Posted by Eldritch on Feb-09-2007 15:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
Synth1 would be fairly friendly.


Synth1 is amazingly light on the CPU. And it has BOTH a supersaw and unison (Which I think no other VSTi has). I love that synth.


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Feb-09-2007 18:49:

Re: VST's That don't slaughter cpu... ?

quote:
Originally posted by Liamh
What are your top tips for soft synths that don't completely destroy any processing power my laptop already doesn't have?

The problem i've got is for now i have a toshiba satelite laptop with a 1.2 GHZ processor, 40GB HD and 256mb ram so not particularly ideal but i'm stuck with it so i need to make the best of what i have... It's getting particularly annoying at the moment as i have battery, imposcar and audiorealism bassline running with sonalksis filter and the cubase built in delay (can't remember what it's called) but my tune won't play without stuttering and skipping then eventually cubase loses all interest and crashes..


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i use a p2 300 with 192 megs of RAM. stop complaining. If you have trouble with your cpu, try exporting your melodies into wav and then import them back in.


Posted by mysticalninja on Feb-09-2007 22:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch
Synth1 is amazingly light on the CPU. And it has BOTH a supersaw and unison (Which I think no other VSTi has). I love that synth.


V-Statin, and I think Discovery and Pro-53 have unison. SuperWave has a supersaw.


Posted by DJ Sound on Feb-10-2007 04:40:

just save your money and get a good computer..if your trying to save cpu your making crappy sounds...just work harder....save more..be happier @$$$A^Z$^$#ahaha



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