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Posted by System101 on Feb-10-2007 06:17:

Do you enjoy helping others?

personally I love to help people out in anyway I can when it gets to production. It took me a long time to learn what I learned. no one was there to help me out when I first started so I just had to kind of play with everything and try to understand what they are and how they work by trial and error method and spent many hours on the midi keyboard everyday.
I think this site is amazing when it comes to learning the technical aspect of things and people are very friendly and willing to help but I noticed sometimes people are being mean and bash each other for no reason. Although sometimes the question which are being asked are pretty stupid in our view, if you think back of your starting days I�m sure you didn�t know everything right of the bet..I think sometimes people feel if they help others they help them jump track a situation that took them weeks to solve/learn by themselves and think the person who's asking the question is trying to take the easy way out by asking it on here..
No matter what people think we�re are all noobs in one way or another because if we weren�t our tracks would�ve been on the top five most downloaded tracks and our names would�ve been on the top five dj�s list..no one can ever say they know everything that there is to know about production�

I just felt like that needed to be said..no offense to anyone. Cheers and thanx for all the help.


Posted by Khayat on Feb-10-2007 08:13:

I personally still don"t know allot here, buw when i'm super good like many here i might take their place and help the other people who joined TA after me and still dont know allot. We tell people here " Do not go to EDM courses or skools" cauz there are many people here who help and are ready to help. I hope one day I could be able to help others and support them like I was helped and supported by every user I asked about something in this forum
Cheers


Posted by Liamh on Feb-10-2007 08:35:

I'm in no position to help people at the minute as i am a noob myself but 99% of the people on this board are really helpful.. I think it's easy as a noob to ask a 'stupid' question and get a verbal bashing but people have to understand that what may be the easiest thing in the world for you experienced producers seems impossible to us noobs.. yes we can put the research in ourselves and use trial and error but then, in that case, what's this section of the message board here for?

In the end, i'm always grateful of the help i get on here and even though i've asked some dumb questions i've not yet been shouted at lol


Posted by Khayat on Feb-10-2007 11:53:

WTF!!!!! DJ_Plam is the best guy and most one helping me here since I joined this Forum
Dont say ur not good lolol


Posted by Eldritch on Feb-10-2007 13:00:

I try to help out as much as I can, although I'm still a noob myself.
I don't think that should stop you from helping out, as long as you don't give bad advice of course.


Posted by Synchronicity on Feb-10-2007 13:25:

Bruce Lee said that teaching actually helps you learn because it makes you simplify concepts. I definately agree with this.


Posted by DigiNut on Feb-10-2007 16:43:

I like helping others as long as they display some level of effort. Otherwise I prefer to just be a smartass.


Posted by System101 on Feb-10-2007 17:25:

+1

quote:
Originally posted by Synchronicity
Bruce Lee said that teaching actually helps you learn because it makes you simplify concepts. I definately agree with this.


Posted by BOOsTER on Feb-10-2007 17:30:

I don�t see a point in threads like this ('cept maybe upsetting some of the older members)...also I like to help ... but I'm not gonna help to someone who's asking stupid questions over and over again...it helps them more...because they will hopefully realize that producing just isn't for them


Posted by System101 on Feb-10-2007 17:39:

#1) this is a public forum therefore if you don't like what you read by all means close the page..

#2) its pretty stupid to say don't ask a certain question cuz it will upset the older memebrs..This is a place where people come to ask questions (noobs or not)

#3) its not up to me or you to say who has what it takes to make it or not..70% of the well known producers started producing randomly like the noobs on here


quote:
Originally posted by BOOsTER
I don�t see a point in threads like this ('cept maybe upsetting some of the older members)...also I like to help ... but I'm not gonna help to someone who's asking stupid questions over and over again...it helps them more...because they will hopefully realize that producing just isn't for them


Posted by BOOsTER on Feb-10-2007 18:02:

if someone asks a totally dumb question like...what's the piano roll for...etc...and trust me these were asked...!!! then the producing is not really the right thing for them to do...

this thread of yours doesn't seem to me like a question but more like a provocation aimed at some people who aren't really helpful to noobs.

this is a public forum...thefore I can finally say "GTFO" or whatever the kids say these days...


kthxbye


Posted by ASFSE on Feb-10-2007 18:12:

i like to help if the question is legit and/or not answered in the FAQ


Posted by System101 on Feb-10-2007 18:29:

i'm sorry?

quote:
Originally posted by BOOsTER
if someone asks a totally dumb question like...what's the piano roll for...etc...and trust me these were asked...!!! then the producing is not really the right thing for them to do...

this thread of yours doesn't seem to me like a question but more like a provocation aimed at some people who aren't really helpful to noobs.

this is a public forum...thefore I can finally say "GTFO" or whatever the kids say these days...


kthxbye


Posted by Jmanch on Feb-10-2007 19:04:

+110000


Posted by Omega_Blue on Feb-10-2007 19:35:

i like to help but i dont know jack about production. it's funny because (in my experience) many djs are "helpful" to one another but are hesitant to show each other any crazy tricks they've learned


Posted by flutlicht junky on Feb-10-2007 20:52:



I think i need to actually start helping out more seeing as I've been here for six years and been producing for about fifteen years lol

FJ


Posted by zodiac9 on Feb-10-2007 23:48:

I don't mind sharing what I know here. I'm not going to put a lot of time into it though, because you never know if you are wasting your time or not. Some of these so called "stupid questions" are really an attempt to start a discussion. Like one recent one, asking what pink noise is. I'm sure this person knew they could look it up with a search, they've been around here a while. I think they wanted to know what everyone here thought about pink noise, and how they use it. Instead, they got told do do a search. How bout we just dissolve this forum, we don't need it, if a search and FAQs are all we need? Unforunately, search engines and FAQs can't talk back to you and engage you in a discussion.

There's a bit of snottiness and nastiness here. If you think a question is stupid, just ignore it. Smartass comments are uncalled for and make this place look bad. You have jackasses on every music forum though, I'm glad there is an ignore feature here.


Posted by Vizay on Feb-11-2007 00:00:

As most people know here I help out every now and then and spread what I know on to the newbies.

I do tend to be a smartass tho when people ask a question that's already been asked in three other threads that are still on the first page and the answer is really in the FAQ (if you get what I mean).

Asking really stupid questions over and over again isn't a privilige you get just because you're a newbie to producing.


Posted by TwistedDUO on Feb-11-2007 00:23:

I love sharing my knowledge with others. Yah, people ask stupid questions alot. But when I first started dj'ing and producing, I didn't know some of the basic shit either. So to tell somebody that if they can't answer a basic or stupid question then they don't deserve to by producing is kinda harsh. I feel that some people fear competition so they try to eliminate those who don't much so they don't become a threat.

When I help others, I feel that I'm making more of a contribution to the music as a whole. I'm sharing my experience and knowledge with somebody who hasn't experienced it (whatever "it" is). This way, they can avoid any hardships or at least have an expectation on what "could happen". If that person becomes a great dj or musician, then I feel even better that I helped somebody make thier dreams come true. I can say that I had some influence on it.

If somebody asks a repetitive question I often reply with a reference on where they can get thier answer. I don't spend alot of time giving them the answers rather I have them answer thier own question through researching it.


Posted by Vizay on Feb-11-2007 06:50:

quote:
Originally posted by TwistedDUO
If somebody asks a repetitive question I often reply with a reference on where they can get thier answer. I don't spend alot of time giving them the answers rather I have them answer thier own question through researching it.


Hang out here active for 5 years and I promise you will change that view of answering the same stupid questions over and over again


Posted by zodiac9 on Feb-11-2007 08:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Vizay
Hang out here active for 5 years and I promise you will change that view of answering the same stupid questions over and over again


Why do you feel it's your responsibility to reply to so called "stupid" questions? Ever just try ignoring them? That's what I do. I scan through the posts here each day and only click on the ones that are obviously worthwhile discussions. If I happen to click on one that is a classic noob question, I simple leave it and move on. Let the moderators here do their job, they can inform the noob poster to find the answer in the stickies, or even lock the thread. There are even a few patient and helpfull people here that will answer their question, or at least point them to the stickies.

Now here's my theory, you guys just love to pile on some newbie asking a noob question. It's makes you feel better about yourself, which is pathetic and immature. If you feel that inadequate that you have to pile on the newbs, maybe you should be honing your producing skills, rather than spending your time ridiculing newbs. TwistedDUO made a good point, all this stims from the fact that you consider new producers a threat, competition. Again, all comes back to feeling inadequate about your own abilities. I bet you never thought about it, now have you? Of course not, because you obviously lack critcal thinking skills.


Posted by Vizay on Feb-11-2007 18:53:

zodiac there's no need to become agressive, nor is there a need to overuse your brain to make up weird theories about competition and stuff...

I've personally never seen producing as a competition, there's room for everyone in the scene as far as I care.
it seems like it's you that have the issue with the competition part since you seem to feel less than some of the people here, but again, it's not a competition so don't...

and just for the record, I've never stated anywhere that I'm a "good guy"/"nice guy", I help people that deserve helping and whenever a new LORD OF BASS jumps out, I flame the living shit out of that guy...mostly for the fun of it...


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-11-2007 19:18:

Edit:

Forget it, I'm not feeding it.


Posted by DigiNut on Feb-11-2007 19:50:

quote:
Originally posted by zodiac9
Now here's my theory, you guys just love to pile on some newbie asking a noob question.
[snip]

Interesting theory. Any evidence or logic to support it, or are you just full of shit?


Posted by TwistedDUO on Feb-11-2007 20:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Vizay
Hang out here active for 5 years and I promise you will change that view of answering the same stupid questions over and over again


And yet the ignorance of elitism flourishes.

Who's to say that I haven't been on here for years and have changed my identity? Who's to say that just because I may be new here, that I haven't been "answering the same questions" for almost two decades in other scenarios (like real-life for instance)? I'm sorry that your viewpoint of validity lies in a post-count number. It's that kind of closed mindedness that discourages newbies to make new music and thus continually evolve it overall.


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