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can someone tell me what this is called?

I'm trying to remember the effect that can change a sound from the centre of the stereo field to the sides so that you can compress or eq the sides differently than the centre. If anyone can tell me i would appreciate it. Thanks.

Stereo Enhancer in FL

Stereo Enhancer doesn't allow you to process the sides different than the centre. It just slightly delays the signal to one side.

dunno what you're talking about, really. but you could always mix down your stereo track to mono, and throw in 2 tracks (1 stereo and 1 mono) and have independent track controls and settings that way

Gahhh... I just read about a sequencer that had this as one of it's new features, but can't recall which one it is. I'll let you know if I remember.


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You're talking about an MS (Mid/Side) Converter.

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Originally posted by DigiNut You're talking about an MS (Mid/Side) Converter.

Yes! Thank you. I kept thinking CS (center/side).

Are these plug-ins? Any brand you guys can recomend, I am intrested in this now ! :-)

Check out Voxengo Graphic Overtone EQ, www.voxengo.com

It's free.

Here's a free one: Voxengo MSED.

Yeah, there are EQ and compressor plugins that have built-in M/S processors but you don't need that, just stick an M/S converter in one slot, a bunch of plugins in the successive slots, and another M/S processor at the end to convert it back.

If I'm not mistaken, there's just one algorithm to convert stereo to M/S and back, so there's nothing really to recommend, just pick one and use it.

Only problem with MSED is it doesn't kill either center or side, it just lowers or raises them by -+12dB. So using that won't give you complete seperation.

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Originally posted by camsr Only problem with MSED is it doesn't kill either center or side, it just lowers or raises them by -+12dB. So using that won't give you complete seperation.

Of course, because it has a knob to decide how much it cuts by, you can work around this by placing a few in a row and cutting by 12dB more than once.

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Originally posted by camsr Only problem with MSED is it doesn't kill either center or side, it just lowers or raises them by -+12dB. So using that won't give you complete seperation.

actually it can lower or raise by about 48dB

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Originally posted by camsr Only problem with MSED is it doesn't kill either center or side, it just lowers or raises them by -+12dB. So using that won't give you complete seperation.

That isn't how it works. An M/S converter converts stereo to mid/side and back - that is, it takes the mid and puts it in the left channel, and puts the side in the right channel. That way you can process M/S the same way you process L/R, and when you're done, you slap on another M/S converter to change the M/S back to L/R (stereo).

MSED also has the weird "inline mode" which essentially does the conversion, applies different gains to the L and R channels, and converts it back, all in one step. I guess this might be useful for specific purposes? Anyway, that's not the only way that MSED can be used and it's definitely not how M/S converters are typically used.

Ah yes you are right. I forgot it's inline mode that did that. I never used the other modes anyway.

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