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Are we nearing the end of the freedom to download whatever we'd like to? :(

Edit: Just a quick note--> I've discovered that these letters have been distributed since at least 2004.

I had heard stories about this in the near past, but now I have personally experienced it.

In short, I have been sent an e-mail from the Rogers Abuse Centre informing me that an ISP-spying company working on behalf of Paramount Pictures has detected that copyrighted materials have been downloaded through my I.P. I was sent a log of the exact activity and now I must officially indicate that I have removed the copyrighted material.

For a while now I've been saying that there is no chance that by the time my kids are using the the net freedom to download whatever one desires will be permitted....but it seems to be happening right now.

I expect a bunch of replies saying 'these companies cannot/will not do shit' or 'they've been doing this for a while now' etc etc....still, though, this seems pretty serious (not in terms of punishment b/c none will follow if I comply I guess, but insofar as these official steps are being taken).

What I am quite interested in is the following: what are the up-to-date CAN laws regarding piracy/copyright infringement concerning the internet?

Enjoy the pics!

lol my brother got the same email

i can bet its because u use PUBLIC torrent trackers, its soo easy to see all the peers that are downloading a certain torrent. If you use other methods to download no1 can really track you

f*ck rogers. go cogeco

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Originally posted by Sasha f*ck rogers. go cogeco

my buddy was telling me the latter is typically more strict than the former

^ +1

never had an issue with them

If you are tech-savvy and want to download copyrighted material illegally, there will always be a way. Never underestimate the internet hax0r underground.

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Originally posted by The Highroller internet hax0r

quote:

E-mail Warnings deter Canadians from Illegal File Sharing The entertainment and software industries have found an effective tool to deter some Canadians from downloading TV programs, movies, music and software. And it doesn't involve going to court. A number of industry groups, mostly based in the United States, are relying on e-mail to get the message out that peer-to-peer file sharing is illegal. Thousands of the e-mails are being sent to Canadian users each month under a program known as "notice and notice." Major Canadian internet service providers including Rogers, Bell and Telus have voluntarily agreed to distribute the notices to their customers on behalf of the industry associations. Telus forwards an average of 4,000 notices every month. Stephen Harrington received a notice late last year after downloading a computer game from a bit torrent file-sharing site. (Bit torrent sites are used to share larger files, such as movies.) Harrington wanted to play the game with his friends, liked it, and purchased it a few days later.

Source: CBC

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Originally posted by Chris Allen Source: CBC

Okay: so what, exactly, then is happening here? Is the point simply deterrence? Insofar as these internet companies have voluntarily joined this effort, it sounds to me like the aim is to deter such activities rather than punish individual abusers.

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Originally posted by cenik Okay: so what, exactly, then is happening here? Is the point simply deterrence? Insofar as these internet companies have voluntarily joined this effort, it sounds to me like the aim is to deter such activities rather than punish individual abusers.

It's most likely to deter people, yes. However Canadian law states that downloading is legal, uploading is not.

When you use a bit-torrent client, you're doing both, therefore they can theoretically burn you for that.

check this out:

http://wiki.phoenixlabs.org/wiki/BayTSP_Infringement_Link

I think I am just gonna ignore this.

Try googling for a private tracker instead.

fuck torrents. its all about usenet.

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Originally posted by cenik check this out: http://wiki.phoenixlabs.org/wiki/Ba...fringement_Link I think I am just gonna ignore this.

As reported by Chris Allen, this is simply a 'soft' approach to deter you from your behaviour. Until there are some major changes to the Canadian Laws (which the US is currently leaning heavily on us to do), there really isn't anything that can be done to you.

How very Canadian of them to politely ask you to discontinue...

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Originally posted by jon jon

As my roommate says "The Genie is out of the bottle - nothing will ever stop the free download of materials. There are two many bored 12-year olds out there to compete with."

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Originally posted by kabelicious As my roommate says "The Genie is out of the bottle - nothing will ever stop the free download of materials. There are two many bored 12-year olds out there to compete with."

hehe was it the one who woke you up at 4am?

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew hehe was it the one who woke you up at 4am?

Yes, my only roommate and often oblivious to human courtesy at times. But then he fixes all the electrical operating devices in the house and its ok.....kind of....

i got one of those too!
for some stupid PSP game i downloaded for a freind.
"HALT!
-stop-
WE HAVE NOTICED U DOWNLOADING COPYWRITIN MATERIAL
-stop-
IF YOU DO NOT CEASE AND DECIST
-stop-
WE WILL BE FORCED TO SUSPEND YOUR ROGERS ACCOUNT
-stop-
PLEASE REMOVE THESE MATERIALS FROM YOUR COMPUTER
-stop-
THANKYOU
-stop-

i thought making it a telegraph would make this more interesting, but yeah i got that same garbage. i used bitorrent to do the D/L.
funy how they bust me on a PSP game, but not like... the god knows how much other stuff i've D/L'd thats C/w'd

private trackers, and make sure you enable encryption...

nick jenna jameson is getting pissed lol... only kidding buddy...fight the power...burn everything quick

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Originally posted by Platipus private trackers, and make sure you enable encryption...

Alright, so if I use a private torrent tracker (such as torrentlounge.com) and set my Utorrent Protocol Encryption Outgoing to 'enabled' then I will be good? (Or is there a more specific kind of encryption you're talking about?).

Thanks for the advice

A friend of mine got one of those letters in the mail over a year ago now. Although he was downloading for a good solid 2 yrs before getting a warning.

These notices have been sent around for years. I have yet to see someone in Canada convicted of anything though (correct me if I'm wrong), so I wouldn't worry too much.

I've also never heard of an ISP other than Rogers sending out these notices.

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