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Is smoking pot for weak minded ppl
Join the discussion.......jddark and tta are at two different pts of view. I think smoking pot is for ppl who lack something in their lives and make it up with temporary pleasure. JDDARK believes that ppl who do it, just do it because they like it. So the argument ensues....your opinions please.
lol i was in the chat during the discussion...
personally, i do have things against people who do that kinda stuff. agree with you about the temporary pleasure. also, in a way, i dislike those who take this sort of "easy way out". being an athelete as well, i hate it when i see people destory their own bodies with the stuff that they put in. But at the same time i do leave this people alone, and let them do their own thing, no matter how much i dislike it.
i dont do drugs because of moral and health reasons.
hope this thread stays firendly.
-phasefour
I don't know if they are weak minded, but the people I know who smoke weed alot (not just on occasion) just seem to have to much time on their hands. Its like "Hey, I'm bored, I'm gonna smoke." This seems to become the way that they pass the time, and it becomes a habit. My roommate is the biggest pothead i have ever met. He's also a modern day hippie and says it helps him see the world better, or it helps him concentrate. I don't get it. Oh well, just my 2 cents
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| Originally posted by Kevin Rx I don't know if they are weak minded, but the people I know who smoke weed alot (not just on occasion) just seem to have to much time on their hands. Its like "Hey, I'm bored, I'm gonna smoke." This seems to become the way that they pass the time, and it becomes a habit. My roommate is the biggest pothead i have ever met. He's also a modern day hippie and says it helps him see the world better, or it helps him concentrate. I don't get it. Oh well, just my 2 cents |
you could make the same argument for trance addicts.
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| you could make the same argument for trance addicts. |
I think its wrong to moralise about others peoples lifes like this.. Saying that people are weak minded or whatever because they smoke alot of pot. Its up to them really, they know the price they pay for smoking alot... You dont get as much things done as you should, but if thats fine by them, its fine by me...
Considering cannabis is considered less harmful than tobacco by most scientists nowadays, shouldn't we be discussing people who smoke tobacco?
I certainly don't condemn it. I would prefer if noone smoked,
if not for their own good but for the fact it places a burden on national health services and also puts the rest of us at risk through oassive smoking. But of course that's all an idealistic fantasy.
Some people lead more stressful lives than others, and one could argue they "need" it more. Look how many doctors do drugs. Their job is incredibly stressful, and the figures show it's proportional to drug taking.
I don't agree it is for weak minded people. It brings them pleasure, or for others, relieves their stress. To say it is weak to fall for this temptation equates to saying that people are "weak" for having casual sex, "weak" for drinking, or weak for doing anything which in the short term they find pleasurable, but in the long term may cause them harm.
Some people would argue that casual sex, drinking and smoking, are all weak minded activities.
I certainly think if you consider one weak minded, you have to have consistency with your views regarding other pleasurable but potentially harmful activities.
I wouldn't consider myself weak for binge drinking every week, I think "reckless" or "complacent" would be a better term. I know that every time I get drunk I am doing long term damage to my liver. But I am not falling for the temptation of beers. I'm more of a pisshead actually, since most of the drinking I do is with the main intention of getting drunk.
I'd say I'm "complacent" to the risks, or "reckless", but not "weak minded". Most people either get drunk, have casual sex, smoke, take drugs, or even just laze around excessively, regularly.
We all do this. How can all of us be "weak minded". Surely what is weak is what is below the average standard. But I would say smoking cannabis is about on a par with it.
BTW, I'm not judging anyone, I need my occasional drunken stuper, I just don't smoke weed. However, some of my best friends are big pot smokers. Who am I to judge someone?
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| Originally posted by Kevin Rx Very true, but loving a type of music and making it a big part of your life IS NOT the same as loving a drug and making that a big part of your life. just not the same. |
i'm not talking about the addiction or hearing loss, I'm talking about clinging to it as a lifestyle.
people who smoke weed and advertise it at every possible oppurtunity and think they're all hardcore because they do it as often as possible are the the biggest losers. I'll do it once in a while on the weekend with a few friends to kick back and relax but I don't get the people who do it everyday . I know one guy who used to boast about blazing 4 times a day and always before bed and he thought he was the shit. he listened to rap, go figure. fags.
I see people using alcohol as something to identify an image with them, every party they are the drunk ones parading around screaming how much the love beer..
I don't think there is anything different with weed, some people smoke it to be cool, same with cigarettes and alcohol.
If you use a drug like weed, alcohol, smokes to be cool or something I think you have issues.
Some of the most intelligent people in history used drugs, alcohol, weed, mushrooms, etc....
Especially when dealing with great writers you see many used alcohol habitually, many great thinkers seem to grip to some release that drugs/alcohol offer.
To say if you smoke weed makes you weak minded is like me saying smart people only drink pepsi. Its a HUGE generalization and its stupid if you think this way, sorry but thats how I feel. There are smart weed smokers, dumb ones, fat ones, skinny ones, black ones, white ones, purple ones, tall ones, short ones, celebritie ones, regular people, polititans, etc.... To STAMP a whole huge part of this world population with a weak statement like "Is smoking pot for weak minded ppl" is pretty weak minded 
I smoke weed a few times a year, drink socially, and once in a while enjoy some magic mushrooms... I don't use them to make me feel good, I use them cause they are fun and a release from reality...
We goto movie theaters for escapism, same with reading books, dreaming... All humans desire alternate experiences, we all differ on how we experience these different experiences, but we all seek them nonetheless.
But what would I know, I'm a weak minded pot smoker, lol
Hmmm...
I grew up around it all my life (literally from baby to the time I left home) so it never really fazed me...
Cannibis isn't addictive (like tobacco), or as harmful (no one has ever died from smoking too much pot) and there's still a lot we don't know about this 'wonder' plant (ie. it's cousin 'hemp' which is a whole different subject and pot's medicinal properties that's now being recognized by the Canadian Gov.).
I don't say this to make excuses for those that can't get their head outta the sand however; I'm talking about the heavy users.
The heavy users usually are the people with too much idle time on their hands for some reason. These are the people who tend to give the negative image portrayed because....they look different? They're bums? What?
How many bums on the street do you see with a blunt in their hand as compared to a brown bag with alcohol? What's doing the most damage?
I can't begin to fathom the number of times I've been offered or been around me, but I've NEVER judged anyone who did.
To be perfectly honest I've only recently accepted smoking it within the last few months after 30 years! Don't misunderstand me, I don't smoke it all the time now, just once in a blue moon.
Why?
a) Because I know there's absolutely nothing wrong that can happen to me; mentally or physically.
b) My wife is hyper-sensitive to narcotics (even poppy seeds are bad news).
Oh sure you can go into the legal or morality side and say, "That's wrong" but I caution anyone taking that stand without some education first.
For some educated reading I suggesting looking into "Reefer Madness" and you'll learn why it's illegal. It's quite rediculous actually.
And the next step of Reefer Madness is about to hit the USA because the DEA down there is looking into banning ALL hemp products even though hemp grown with less than 1% THC. How dumb is that??
Sheesh...their own consitution is written on hemp!!
And of course since marijuana is a cousin of hemp...it gets a bad name too.
EDIT: Some things to read
Close to Legalization?
Medical Articles
History of Reefer Madness
Besides...for being Ontario's 3rd largest cash crop (pot) you'd think there would be more problems?
It's the world's biggest and longest propaganda fisco based on such little circumstantial evidence going.
It's your choice. But make sure it's an informed one.
Good post Firstarter, don't also forget that hemp paper could be used for newspapers, instead of us cutting down more forests.
But oh no, Hemp is evil 
Its amazing how often logic is ignored in US law making, too many special interest groups I guess.
Well in this country it is now kinda fashionable to smoke weed. Coz cigarettes r now considered bit to legal. So local lamers r smoking weed. Ahh well. I dont have a prob with peeps you smoke weed, but for people who do it as a fashion thing is say to you, "you are a lamer" 
Re: Is smoking pot for weak minded ppl
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| Originally posted by torontotrance Join the discussion.......jddark and tta are at two different pts of view. I think smoking pot is for ppl who lack something in their lives and make it up with temporary pleasure. JDDARK believes that ppl who do it, just do it because they like it. So the argument ensues....your opinions please. |
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| Originally posted by Spad Just because you do something for temporary pleasure doesn't mean your life is lacking something. People have sex don't they? |
i smoke pot on occasion....
no, i'm not addicted to it
no, i don't NEED it to get thru my day
no, i don't go thru the day looking forward to the next time i blaze
and i don't smoke because i'm bored
for me it's just a stress reliever, kinda like... sittin back and watchin tv after a long, hard day... or lifting weights or playing basketball.... or chillin wit friends drinkin a beer talkin about jack sh*t... etc etc
personally, i don't see a problem with doing ANYTHING, including smoking weed, as long as it doesn't own you and consume your style of life. I mean, how bad can something be if you do it to let loose every once in a while?? and how bad can something be if you have control over it?
so, am i weak minded because i smoke weed? i don't think so...
also, i know some friends who smoke weed almost on a daily basis, who are quite intelligent, NOT lazy, and dilligent in EVERYTHING they do.... are THEY weak minded?
if you say people who smoke weed a lot are weak minded, then you can ask another question, like...
"are tranceaddicts weak minded? because people who listen to trance a lot lack something in their lives and are just filling that void with temporary sonic pleasure"
- in that case, i am a very, very weak minded individual who needs a lot of help
although i must admit, a lot of potheads do have the tendency to seem to lack a sort of motivation in their lives....
alright, now im responding alt i wanted to last night. i was just too baked....heh.
well this is the thing: people do shit to waste time. they pick up hobbies, they sleep, watch TV, drink a few beers, eat some food or smoke some dope. now are ALL of those activities 'problems' ALL of the time? thats debateable. but its certain that ANYTHING can be abused, its just a matter of how its done.
as for marijuana being for 'weak minded' people, or that those who use it are trying to fill their lives with something- i would have to say no. pot COULD be the answer for your maladjusted youth who have nothing better to do than 'waste their lives' by smoking a substance that is practically NON addictive, and cant kill them from overdose, but in most cases its just used occasionally as a 'stress reducer' as many people have already stated. this could sound like a cop out, or that the original point was validated. the arguement of 'weak minded' is especially questionable tho. my main question is how many pot smokers do you KNOW (when making such a claim)? i am willing to bet tta, that you choose NOT to associate with them for certain reasons. you prolly feel that you dont neet marijuana in your life, and that its bad for you, etc, etc. these are all acceptable concerns, but saying that those that choose to smoke occasionally are less mentally capable than you or others is absurd. if you KNEW smokers, then youd begin to see that they are just like everyone else, smart/stupid, lazy/energetic, heavy/light users. just like any pastime.
-pot, caffeine, alcohol, cocaine, nicotine, heroin+
often it seems that the justification for addiction comes when a person is choosing a substance over the other aspects of their life. so, the person is ignoring essentials, for the drug. as i have said, marijuana is even less addictive than caffeine and MUCH less addictive than nicotine(second only to heroin in widely abused substances). being so, there is relatively little actual physiological addiction then. what makes people keep smoking? the feeling then- that pot users get and someone who hasnt tried the drug would largely fail to understand. and this goes beyond just simple i got sorta baked after hacking up a lung once. pot seems to lend itself to being recognized as 'abused' by those that choose to use it, simply because those who do not smoke pot regularly see getting high similar to getting drunk, which is another potential mistake. just as any person can have one drink during the day and not be retarded, mindless or incapable of accomplishing simple tasks, the experienced smoker is not a useless individual incapable of dealing with everyday issues. here is where i could begin to debate 'drugs' as a whole, but i will not...ill wait for valid responses first.
I don't get why everyone is so worked up over a drug that makes teenage boys drive more slowly.
- P.J. O'Rourke
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| Originally posted by S-Type if you say people who smoke weed a lot are weak minded, then you can ask another question, like... "are tranceaddicts weak minded? because people who listen to trance a lot lack something in their lives and are just filling that void with temporary sonic pleasure" - in that case, i am a very, very weak minded individual who needs a lot of help |
computer addiction is beginning to be a HUGE problem in America, and those that are liable to get addicted to substances are at higher risk for computer addiction. *people* are the source of the addiction, not the substance. late/
damn Biz, i think this is one of ur best posts ever!!!
100% agree with ya!!
Gekhous, Evil Bastard, and Biznology have all made excellent points. I could not agree more. The "weak minded" argument is obviously a terrible argument. Unfortunantely, some people do not have the discipline to avoid having addictive response to pot. Unfortunately People can become addicted to pot (or sex, or drugs, or trance) to the point where it effects their life in an adverse way. I smoke more pot now than drink and I think it's better. Smoking pot makes you drink less, and you can do more when you smoke. I think drinking and tobacco are the greater source of problems.
mmmh, Berbals
Been smoking for 10 years. It helps me relax after a stressfull day at work, am I weak-minded, I don't think so. I go on my binges, I take breaks from it. Definetely prefer it to drinking. Herb helps me perceive things differently, I find it easier to concentrate on minute details, sometimes. Or just let go, and free-think. However, I have seen addicts who cain't function w/o it. They wake and bake and go through the whole day smoking. But that's their game, let 'em do it. Everyone's addicted to something, be it a person, an idea a substance, a genre of music, whatever. Figure as long as it don't cause pain to others let em do it. At least for diversity sake.
Peace, Pot, Microdot
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| Originally posted by Spad Just because you do something for temporary pleasure doesn't mean your life is lacking something. People have sex don't they? |
lots of good points in this thread, but they are all personal preference, that's what makes everyone who they are.
i like smoking, i'll smoke a couple times a day. but i hate cigarettes, they taste awful, they are bad for your body in too many ways to list, on the other hand (refer to the avatar), i like weed, i like the taste the smell the high. everything, even the burnout, cuz it helps me sleep. i don't NEED weed, i know this because i've gone for long periods of time without burnin (i mean weeks, not hours) and i don't feel the need to smoke like a nicotine addict. i will agree that alot of people smoke for the wrong reasons ie: to be cool, impress people, etc... but before you call me weakminded because i smoke bud, think of a reason that would back it up instead of just assuming i'm a basehead cuz my eyes are red, i'll probably still smoke bud when i'm fifty and my kids are asleep, cuz just like trance it's something i like to do.
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