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Posted by rapfiend03 on Feb-20-2007 18:39:

Growing into your sound...or just maturing?

I dunno whats been going on with me recently, but i think im either growing into the sound i like or just maturing. for example currently im loving Satoshi Tomiie's livesets, yet about 2 years ago i heard a liveset from him and couldn't listen to it for more than 2 mins. the same with Holden, now im fuken lovin his shit too. i hardly listen to trance anymore but i still love it. still love hard trance too. but i was wondering do you just grow into one sound (i.e. house/trance/DnB/breaks)or do we evolve into diff styles at diff times never staying on one style of edm? i constrict it to edm because its such a huge field of music.


Posted by jonas on Feb-20-2007 18:48:

Re: Growing into your sound...or just maturing?

quote:
Originally posted by rapfiend03
I dunno whats been going on with me recently, but i think im either growing into the sound i like or just maturing. for example currently im loving Satoshi Tomiie's livesets, yet about 2 years ago i heard a liveset from him and couldn't listen to it for more than 2 mins. the same with Holden, now im fuken lovin his shit too. i hardly listen to trance anymore but i still love it. still love hard trance too. but i was wondering do you just grow into one sound (i.e. house/trance/DnB/breaks)or do we evolve into diff styles at diff times never staying on one style of edm? i constrict it to edm because its such a huge field of music.


I have gone through the same thing. It's funny that you talk about Satoshi, because that is a good example for me to. I had heard of him a couple of years ago when I was only spinning trance and just starting out. Didn't know much about him and what I heard didn't interest me at all. But, last March I went to see one of his shows here in Dallas and was just blown away by his sound. This coincided with me starting to dabble in other genres. I never wanted to play progressive house or any other genre and now find myself playing prog as much as I do trance. I can't put my finger on what happened. But I don't really think you can call it maturing as much as you can just broadening in your music taste. Trance sometimes gets a bad rap for a number of reasons and some think it has the least amount of artistic value in relation to EDM. I disagree. I think that the person's true appreciation for the genre can give any of them equal respect. To make a short story long , you and I probably think the same in that trance was our first love, but we still need to know what else is out there. That's a good thing.


Posted by D Dubya on Feb-20-2007 19:40:

i think most djs start out playing trance. i know i did and most other club djs i talk to say the same thing. you start there, move into progressive and end up in house - these are the guys playing the clubs. s lot of people stay in progressive. its good to get some diversity


Posted by shaw on Feb-20-2007 19:42:

I was stuck in trance...then Four.2 & that August '05 30-min promo came along, and I haven't looked back since . Even now, though, my tastes are constantly evolving. I wouldn't say changing, because it's not like I'm bouncing around between genres...just going deeper & deeper into the world of music that's just of higher & higher quality....IMHO.


Posted by jonas on Feb-20-2007 19:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Dirk W.
i think most djs start out playing trance. i know i did and most other club djs i talk to say the same thing. you start there, move into progressive and end up in house - these are the guys playing the clubs. s lot of people stay in progressive. its good to get some diversity


Please don't tell me I'm moving to playing just house. That would make me frown.

quote:
Originally posted by Inconspicuous
I was stuck in trance...then Four.2 & that August '05 30-min promo came along, and I haven't looked back since . Even now, though, my tastes are constantly evolving. I wouldn't say changing, because it's not like I'm bouncing around between genres...just going deeper & deeper into the world of music that's just of higher & higher quality....IMHO.


+1

Did anyone ever tell you that you look like Brittney Spears with a shaved head.


Posted by Carlos Pereira on Feb-20-2007 19:54:

W3rd.

Good thing you brought this up rapfiend. I also experienced the same thing too and am still in the process of seeking other forms of electronica, simply because everytime I hear something from someone I didn't like 2 years ago, it's now gotten to the point where I find myself hitting the "repeat track" button on the track and/or set. A good example, being Armin V. Buuren. When he brought out Boundaries of Imagination, I just could not bear the sound of annoying synths and high pitched keys, not to mention that back in the day I used to be a hardcore punk and almost started a band with some friends from high school. Then slowly, I noticed I always went back and played that track again that caught my attention the first time, for some odd reason. Soon I found myself enjoying his tracks even more.

Same thing with Junkie XL. I always used to think Junkie was waaayyy too mainstream for me and that I just couldn't adjust to his sound. Not until 2005 (Armin/Junkie/Oakenfold gig) did I realize that this guy had a potential to create a variety of sounds that sooner or later would grab a hold of me, especially his remixes. Moreover, Gabriel & Dresden is one duo I hated for the life of me. But then I knew that these guys always threw something in there that made me wanna dance and jam to. That set they played at Bar-Rio 3 weeks ago blew me away. Not only was it the first time I'd seen them live (from which I purposely always avoided their gigs), but it was the first time I knew that these artists and dj's in the world of dance music, no matter what kind of style it is, have one hell of a talent that they KNOW will move a crowd and influence people globally. Even dj's on this board (Steve, Matthias, Dirk, Dave, James, Jake, etc...); I used to ignore the threads they posted up on here as links to their sets when I first joined on TA. But each one of them have impacted me in an unbelievable way that no words can explain the talent these guys have. It is the reason I am a believer of their sound, and is what continues to fulfill my music needs, everyday.


Posted by D Dubya on Feb-20-2007 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by djjonas
Please don't tell me I'm moving to playing just house. That would make me frown.


no, i am not saying that. just saying that most house djs i know got their start in trance and made a progression. not that all trance djs end up there


and thanks for the mention carlos


Posted by jonas on Feb-20-2007 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Dirk W.
no, i am not saying that. just saying that most house djs i know got their start in trance and made a progression. not that all trance djs end up there


and thanks for the mention carlos


I know. I was just kidding. I just don't ever want to play house. I think Progressive is about as far down that road as I ever want to go. I like music that has more energy and can instantly move a room. House just doesn't seem to do that for me. Now when the hell are we partying again?????

+1 on the comment from Carlos. Thanks bro. All of those guys are very talented, all are unique and it's flattering to be mentioned in the same breath with them.


Posted by Slow Motion on Feb-20-2007 21:37:

Re: Growing into your sound...or just maturing?

quote:
Originally posted by rapfiend03
I dunno whats been going on with me recently, but i think im either growing into the sound i like or just maturing. for example currently im loving Satoshi Tomiie's livesets, yet about 2 years ago i heard a liveset from him and couldn't listen to it for more than 2 mins. the same with Holden, now im fuken lovin his shit too. i hardly listen to trance anymore but i still love it. still love hard trance too. but i was wondering do you just grow into one sound (i.e. house/trance/DnB/breaks)or do we evolve into diff styles at diff times never staying on one style of edm? i constrict it to edm because its such a huge field of music.


Simply put, your tastes are becoming more refined and sophisticated. Like as you get older... in college you drink cheap beer (on anything you can get your hands on).... then you moved to wine and the like.

Same with music


Posted by jonas on Feb-20-2007 21:59:

Re: Re: Growing into your sound...or just maturing?

quote:
Originally posted by Slow Motion
Simply put, your tastes are becoming more refined and sophisticated. Like as you get older... in college you drink cheap beer (on anything you can get your hands on).... then you moved to wine and the like.

Same with music


Thanks Lance. Now I can't get by with drinking cheap beer at 33.


Posted by D Dubya on Feb-20-2007 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by djjonas
Now when the hell are we partying again?????


the partying begins again in late april. i know, that seems like far away, but it will be summer and there will be plenty of good shows to attend. i predict plenty of tables and bottles. not to worry dear friend


Posted by shaw on Feb-20-2007 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Dirk W.
the partying begins again in late april. i know, that seems like far away, but it will be summer and there will be plenty of good shows to attend. i predict plenty of tables and bottles. not to worry dear friend


speaking of summer, anybody up for actually doing a weekend w/e down in galveston or something this year? I know the idea came up last year, but nothing ever came of it (at least not to my knowledge)


Posted by jonas on Feb-20-2007 23:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Inconspicuous
speaking of summer, anybody up for actually doing a weekend w/e down in galveston or something this year? I know the idea came up last year, but nothing ever came of it (at least not to my knowledge)


That would be cool if everyone did it. Suites at the San Luis?


Posted by shaw on Feb-20-2007 23:33:

quote:
Originally posted by djjonas
That would be cool if everyone did it. Suites at the San Luis?


idk what/where that is. As I mentioned when it came up before, I have a friend whose neighbor rents out a pair of beach houses down in Surfside...not exactly the most glamorous place, but it'd be pretty reasonable cost-wise, each one could fit a ton of people (I think the one we stayed in last time had something like 12-14 beds or something...should be plenty, especially if you, Dave, & Dirk share one) and noise/rediiculaseness is a non-issue, as it's right on the beach.

but I'm up for whatever...probably


Posted by Carlos Pereira on Feb-21-2007 00:19:

quote:
Originally posted by djjonas
Suites at the San Luis?


PHUCK YEA!!!

Yea we were supposed to do it last year, courtesy of Matt Dunn but us kunts never did anything. That'd be bad ass though if we all went and spent a week or something.

im stil in kolege so i kan breeng thu cheep bere.


Posted by shaw on Feb-21-2007 00:20:

quote:
Originally posted by architect1803
PHUCK YEA!!!

Yea we were supposed to do it last year, courtesy of Matt Dunn but us kunts never did anything. That'd be bad ass though if we all went and spent a week or something.

im stil in kolege so i kan breeng thu cheep bere.


where is this?


Posted by jonas on Feb-21-2007 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Inconspicuous
idk what/where that is. As I mentioned when it came up before, I have a friend whose neighbor rents out a pair of beach houses down in Surfside...not exactly the most glamorous place, but it'd be pretty reasonable cost-wise, each one could fit a ton of people (I think the one we stayed in last time had something like 12-14 beds or something...should be plenty, especially if you, Dave, & Dirk share one) and noise/rediiculaseness is a non-issue, as it's right on the beach.

but I'm up for whatever...probably


That sounds even better. But I'm not rooming with Dirk and Dave. They always leave their bras hanging on the door and such.


Posted by shaw on Feb-21-2007 00:34:

quote:
Originally posted by djjonas
That sounds even better. But I'm not rooming with Dirk and Dave. They always leave their bras hanging on the door and such.


bad mental image

I think they've each got about 6 bedrooms...& a couple of them have bunks or something...but between the two, it's about 12 bedrooms, 20+ beds or something...and that's assuming everyone makes it to a bed to fall asleep, which I doubt would happen.

We had loud music going for the entire weekend without a problem, though the house 2 doors down did burn down in the middle of one of the nights . Add a drunken friend running over to try to help the [band of what seemed to be volunteer, clueless] firefighters [who kept shooting water over the house] and you have a rather amusing night.


Posted by jonas on Feb-21-2007 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Inconspicuous
bad mental image

I think they've each got about 6 bedrooms...& a couple of them have bunks or something...but between the two, it's about 12 bedrooms, 20+ beds or something...and that's assuming everyone makes it to a bed to fall asleep, which I doubt would happen.

We had loud music going for the entire weekend without a problem, though the house 2 doors down did burn down in the middle of one of the nights . Add a drunken friend running over to try to help the [band of what seemed to be volunteer, clueless] firefighters [who kept shooting water over the house] and you have a rather amusing night.


I am down for this. Find out what you can and let's get this thing done.


Posted by shaw on Feb-21-2007 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by djjonas
I am down for this. Find out what you can and let's get this thing done.


When...ish?

I'll check with my friend about cost soon.


Posted by jonas on Feb-21-2007 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Inconspicuous
When...ish?

I'll check with my friend about cost soon.


I think we would have to take a poll and see who would be on board and when they would want to go. I am thinking early summer, say early June.


Posted by shaw on Feb-21-2007 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by architect1803
im stil in kolege so i kan breeng thu cheep bere.




lol


Posted by Carlos Pereira on Feb-21-2007 01:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Inconspicuous


lol


How did you get into my apartment?


Posted by rapfiend03 on Feb-21-2007 02:38:

wow all great responses! i think Lance summerized it best my ears are becoming more refined

well imma continue my journey into EDM.

and summer sounds like its gonna kick fuken ass! =)


Posted by Zild on Feb-21-2007 09:26:

No musical growth = shit.


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