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Official rules about how to beat your wife...

Now I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this isn't Islam across the board, but I'd like some more background on this.

Personally, I think this is about as backwards as backwards can be; when are they going to get into the 21st Century??

Did you even bother to read what he was saying? No blood, no face, no bruise, and never in front of the children....that doesn't sound too bad???

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Did you even bother to read what he was saying? No blood, no face, no bruise, and never in front of the children....that doesn't sound too bad???

Hello?

These are rules on how to beat your wife!

Are you condoning wife beating then?

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Hello? These are rules on how to beat your wife! Are you condoning wife beating then?

I hate it when husbands beat thier wifes. But if they are going to do it at least do it responsibly(sp?). Not like where you beat the crap out of your wife and the children have to be witnesses of thier mother crying and bleeding right in front of them. That will totally fuck up the childs mind.

Not sure what to say. Almost seems like a SNL skit or something.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid I hate it when husbands beat thier wifes. But if they are going to do it at least do it responsibly(sp?). Not like where you beat the crap out of your wife and the children have to be witnesses of thier mother crying and bleeding right in front of them. That will totally fuck up the childs mind.

WTF? I hope your saying this tongue-in-cheek, otherwise your a real scumbag.

Hahaha , this's happened under few certain conditions
when u see ur wife after coming back from a travelwork sleeping
with another guy, Sooo WAT a shock...

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid I hate it when husbands beat thier wifes. But if they are going to do it at least do it responsibly(sp?). Not like where you beat the crap out of your wife and the children have to be witnesses of thier mother crying and bleeding right in front of them. That will totally fuck up the childs mind.

Dood, there's is no such thing as, 'responsibily beating up your wife'!

Can I come over and, 'responsibily beat you up' if I bring my own rules too?
That'll be ok with you right? You know, as long as I have the rules with me and all...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Dood, there's is no such thing as, 'responsibily beating up your wife'! Can I come over and, 'responsibily beat you up' if I bring my own rules too? That'll be ok with you right? You know, as long as I have the rules with me and all...

Do0d, that isn't what i mean. I mean that husbands will beat thier wifes, not all. But if it is an option might as well use a guidebook.

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Now I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this isn't Islam across the board, but I'd like some more background on this.

I know...I can't understand how they can be so savage. I mean, it's not like there aren't any white, black, yellow, brown, or purple people beating their wives...Only in Islam...

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Did you even bother to read what he was saying? No blood, no face, no bruise, and never in front of the children....that doesn't sound too bad???

This leaves what...

spanking?

Old testament bible was into the wife-whipping and child abuse too and not exactly a great measure of equality or humanitarian endorsements... heck, it got a lot worse when it reached europe.

But there's an easy, modern day solution to this kind of behaviour, comes in high velocity hollowpoints at point blank and lawyers to sort out the mess after.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby This leaves what... spanking?

you can punch a girl several times without bruising her. Just try it out for yourself


But really abuse is something common regardless of what religion you follow. There will always be MALES who need to beat up their wifes. that is just life.

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Originally posted by Lilith Old testament bible was into the wife-whipping and child abuse too and not exactly a great measure of equality or humanitarian endorsements... heck, it got a lot worse when it reached europe. But there's an easy, modern day solution to this kind of behaviour, comes in high velocity hollowpoints at point blank and lawyers to sort out the mess after.

Heh,

This reminded me (along with the overall thread) of a quote from one of the crazy "quad preachers" that would stand in the middle of the Quad at the University when I was in school trying to use their hellfire and brimstone speeches to save the heathen students.

This one guy, 'Mad Max' as he was called by the students, was preaching one afternoon when my freinds were having lunch, and he said "We need to go back to the old days when you beat your wife with the bible!"

I just find this quote funny as hell.

Back to sleep....god I hate working the night shift when the weekend rolls around, I am sleepy all the time.

MrS

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby This leaves what... spanking?

LOL

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Not like where you beat the crap out of your wife and the children have to be witnesses of thier mother crying and bleeding right in front of them. That will totally fuck up the childs mind.

Maybe more fathers should beat their wives in front of their sons. At least that way, they'd learn how to do it in the respectful manner outlined in this video. Maybe as they get older, they help out as training for how to deal with their future punching bags.

Are wives allowed to hit their husbands?

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Do0d, that isn't what i mean. I mean that husbands will beat thier wifes, not all. But if it is an option might as well use a guidebook.

so your solution for it occuring is to say 'as long as you follow these guidelines, you're fine in our books'?

The logic of his statements seem to imply that Allah is a male. Unless that is the case, he would not condone wife beating.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Are wives allowed to hit their husbands?

They could but the thing is. That the majority of males are stronger physically than their woman. Which would result in the woman being beaten for her fultile attempt at controlling her husband.

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so your solution for it occuring is to say 'as long as you follow these guidelines, you're fine in our books'?

Iam not fine with any beatings on a women. But it will happen anyways. Muslims are family oriented people compare to Westerners. If they have a strong family network than the less likely there will be spousal abuse. But if you are going to beat your wife than there is no reason why they can't be civil about it??

It'll happen a lot less if you don't have community leaders and religious figures actually condoning this kind of behaviour to drag their collective asses into modern day society. Rather than behaving like the cult leaders who invented these kinds of religions back when people where clubbing each other over the head was slightly more common practice, rather than any kind of intelligent discussion.

Slapping each other about isn't a means of discipline, it's used on very unruly children, not adults with their full faculties and if we can't even resolve conflicts in a family home without some kind of physical violence then it doesn't say much for that kind of society and how it will respond to outside criticism even if its for their betterment.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid if you are going to beat your wife than there is no reason why they can't be civil about it

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Iam not fine with any beatings on a women. But it will happen anyways. Muslims are family oriented people compare to Westerners. If they have a strong family network than the less likely there will be spousal abuse. But if you are going to beat your wife than there is no reason why they can't be civil about it??

And why will beatings 'happen anyways'?
Here in the New World you try that and you get thrown in jail. IN JAIL.

If they're so family oriented, it shouldn't be happening in the first place!

And there is still no 'civil way to beat your wife'.

What about their kids then?
If it's written in a book can they cuff them across the room?
While I am on the side of a little discipline when it comes to kids because they need to learn and understand exactly what consequences are for their actions, I agree with Lilth:

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...not adults with their full faculties...

BAhhahahahahaha

Really wat toothpick

Didn't the US allow men to hit and abuse their wives just a bit over 100 years ago? With this comparison, it doesn't seem like these Muslims are too far behind. And isn't it customary or common to beat wives in lots of countries, whether governed by an Islamic regime?

Got this excerpt from a site (http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~ulrich/femhist/spousal_abuse.shtml)

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During the nineteenth century, domestic principles were based on a patriarchal system. The husband was seen as the superior being in the house (Glenn 66). The wife was viewed as being property of her husband, just as one of his slaves or children (Glenn 71). As owner of his wife, a man could do as he pleased with and to his spouse because she lacked the power to control her own actions. It was considered a husband�s duty to protect his wife, therefore, he was given the right to control and limit her behavior (Glenn 67) This authority also allowed for him to use violence, if necessary, in order to keep her in line (Glenn 71). These standards a man's domination over his wife created social acceptance of moderate martial cruelty (Hammerton 43). Nineteenth century laws also led to a woman's oppression in regard to her husband. Most states enforced a common law, which stated a husband had the legal right to control his wife and all her possessions. This meant, upon marriage, a women lost control over her children, inheritance, wages, all her belongings, and, in effect, herself (Glenn 66-67). In addition, it was widely accepted around the world that "wife-beating" was included in a man's legal right power over his wife and her property ("domestic violence").

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