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Newbie... (in right area!)

Hello everyone I'm new here and I've been listening to some people's productions and I'm blown away by what they can do.

I have Reason 3.0 and I've been trying to start on some hardcore but it's just too hard for a beginner like me so I turned to this site and thought "why don't I try that, it seems easier" so I joined up and here I am. I don't have a great deal of experience but I've been learning Reason over the last few months now and would like to try and make my own track to any pointers on the type of sound/way it's put together would be helpful.

Regards,
James.

i wouldn't say trance is easy to make on a trance site.

if it wasnt hard then you wouldnt be a beginner

Exactly which part of your production is hard? Coming up with the patterns/tunes? Sequencing it all together? Inserting and patching up the synths?

Try going to some dedicated Reason sites like www.reasonstation.net and download some songs constructed by other users, you can see how they put theirs together.

How about some advice for hardcore?

1) Build an annoyingly fast 909 Kick that resembles a 50 caliber going off next to your head.
2) Layer in some off-beat snares.
3) Build your groove off of those of snares.
4) Add some effects to give it a "produced" feel.
5) Ensure that your kick is so predominant that you can't make anything else out.
6) Add a growly voice sample with "hardcore" in it.
6) Take some speed then mix it down.

Trance is easy, my arse. Next to DnB, trance is probably the most layered productions in EDM.

If you want to find a genre that is easy to produce, try Noise/Experimental. Just take your fave Synth, Randomize it and put it through 1 or more distortion units. Call your track something like "All Humans Must Die!!!!11" and make sure its not longer than 1 minute.

Hey guys, stop being slack to this guy, he was very polite in his post and did not ask for an easy fix like "how to get the pro sound" or "how to add more analogue" or something daft like that. He asked for tips, so how about yu show some help?

Re hardcore, hardcore I think is easier to produce than trance? So if your going for trance because its easier, don't. People find different things difficult though, so maybe you really will find trance easier? Who am I to say...

Anyway, start in the sticky section of the producers forum (its at the top) and screw around on a keyboard a lot. Then record, layer more stuff. make drums (there are threads here on this... basically 4 beats for the kick, snare on 2 or 4 and hihat on the off beat. +- to taste). This thread has good stuff on trance structure, which may help you get started... http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&postid=6766433

also search for a thread on basses, something about the fight against the oompa itis? Maybe? look through previous posts here, you will learn.

Anyway, good luck, and don't let the bastards getcha down!

Coming up with the patterns is what I find hard, and also getting the Subtractor to give me the right sound takes me forever. I'm good at the kicks but can't make my own.

you don't really need to make your own kicks...

OK then, I'm off to "try" the start.

I apologize for my earlier rant. It's usually not in my nature to bash newbie questions. I was just in a mood when I wrote that and you called trance production "easy" in compared to hardcore. I guess it set me off.

Depending on the feel of the track you want to produce. Reason has some great refills that you can work with. Check out some of the TECHNO Drumkits for a harder feel. The trick with trance is the layering. There are several sites that can help you with this. Don't be afraid to use different kits and refills to get different sounds. Stay away from using the default settings of these and tweak them out a bit. Many pros who use Reason can spot the loop quickly. Another suggestion is to find websites where other producers are allowing people to download thier loops and refills. This will also give your tracks a more original sound.

How do I layer sounds? Sorry if I sound dumb...

Layering: get one sound, get another, play em both at once. You dont need to make your kicks yeah, and have a look around here for some tips on programming synths, it just takes practise I believe...

at the end of your track you should be looking at between 30 and 35 tracks each with it;s own sound in it. Thats called Layering.


Just keep practising man thats the best advice I can give. Try to spend some time with someone else who already makes tunes, that helps too.

Ive been messing around with reason for a few months, try making some simple samples at 1st with effects etc trying to make a track right away can seem full on when you have no idea what anything does so u end up walking away.

Learn how to put the pre made patches for reason in redrum with all the precision samples in and then make some short tracks.

You dont have to making anthing great for your 1st track just read up maybe find a book on howto use reason.

And the when you have lots of whacky samples your could make a tune.

We need LORD_OF_BASS help

what ever style you do, there are guidelines that needs to be followed to be part of a style. now its good to understand them in order to be able to break them. Cause you don't want to do the same stuff everybody does. But as a beginner you shouldn't worry about it.

My advice to you is go to http://www.reasonstation.net/ and download some songs choose one you like and try to copy it. Select one that doen't need any extra refill apart from the factory sb.

You probably will not manage to make the same track ,but you will learn a lot from it. this is an exercise nothing more, but i garantee you will understand a lot of concepts in a shorter timeframe . The things you should pay attention to are :

-The structure is important and probably the most difficult thing to learn.

-the way synth are programmed.
you need to reverse engineer all of them .lets say you opened a song and you are copying a bass made with the subtractor, when you are done, verify that the bass playing with its respective midi file sounds about the same. you then need to stop there (don't forget to save) and start moving the knob around to see what they do and slowly go back to the the basic patch. then reload the basic patch and rebuild the bass this time without looking to the original synth. this way you understand how you got there.

-look at the way the midi file interact with their respective sounds.



Now this is just to get you started, the rest will come with experience and dedication...

So good luck and enjoy yourself !

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