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Finally my theory about the bible will be right. Its all just a big old story and people made this into a religion.

Jesus: Tales from the Crypt


Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity.

In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.

No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true.

Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.
Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.

There was also this little inconvenience that a few miles away, in the old city of Jerusalem, Christians for centuries had been worshipping the empty tomb of Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Christ's resurrection, after all, is the main foundation of the faith, proof that a boy born to a carpenter's wife in a manger is the Son of God.

But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus and his family.

Ever the showman, (Why does this remind me of the impresario in another movie,"King Kong", whose hubris blinds him to the dangers of an angry and very large ape?) Cameron is holding a New York press conference on Monday at which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene. News about the film, which will be shown soon on Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision, and Israel's Channel 8, has been a hot blog topic in the Middle East (check out a personal favorite: Israelity Bites) Here in the Holy Land, Biblical Archeology is a dangerous profession. This 90-minute documentary is bound to outrage Christians and stir up a titanic debate between believers and skeptics. Stay tuned.

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Originally posted by SebG evidence through DNA tests,

And this is where everyone will cry falsities.

is this going to be like Geraldo's enveiling of an egyptian tomb....and they found nothing? LOL.

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Originally posted by dj_bas And this is where everyone will cry falsities.

ok, so i was just going to post something about that, but decided not to and the comment above instead.

but yes, intial impression was, "DNA of Jesus eh?

Well not that, but the fact that most people don't believe in DNA testing as it is, I'm sure once they try and say that this is the actual DNA of Jesus people will just say it's bullshit or impossible. I think it's totally possible however.

site a source to your story please.

Sounds sketchy. It will be interesting to see if anything results from it apart from the typically hysterical Christian reactions that erupt when anybody advances a theory that contradicts the Bible.

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Originally posted by dj_bas Well not that, but the fact that most people don't believe in DNA testing as it is, I'm sure once they try and say that this is the actual DNA of Jesus people will just say it's bullshit or impossible. I think it's totally possible however.

i'm sure that since he was a human being, that of course he had DNA. but since he himself fathered no children....how could their be a lineage of DNA linking back to him?

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Originally posted by tubularbills i'm sure that since he was a human being, that of course he had DNA. but since he himself fathered no children....how could their be a lineage of DNA linking back to him?

Why would you say he fathered no children?

well they might have gotten the DNA of mother mary and.. ?

Well, the hypothesis at hand is that he did in fact father children. It seems that for this whole bit to work out the filmmakers would have had to find a line of descendants reaching to the present day. And that is why this looks extremely sketchy. Good luck finding an accurate genealogy that reaches back that far.

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Originally posted by dj_bas Why would you say he fathered no children?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Good luck finding an accurate genealogy that reaches back that far.

plus there is no mention of a wife of Jesus in the Bible.

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Originally posted by tubularbills plus there is no mention of a wife of Jesus in the Bible.

So because it's not in the Bible it didn't happen? I didn't know the Bible was a 100% accurate retelling of what went happened back then. You know, especially after it was translated from different languages several times.

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Originally posted by dj_bas So because it's not in the Bible it didn't happen? I didn't know the Bible was a 100% accurate retelling of what went happened back then. You know, especially after it was translated from different languages several times.

it's just what i believe in.

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Originally posted by tubularbills it's just what i believe in.

Exactly! So you can see how this movie would shake people to the core...the coorreee!! What if though, you know?

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Originally posted by dj_bas Exactly! So you can see how this movie would shake people to the core...the coorreee!! What if though, you know?

the thing is, i guess, a lot of my faith is based off of the teachings of Prists and those of the Catholic church who have studied the Theology, the Bible, etc...etc...etc... people who do this stuff for a living. so for a hollywood director to have discovered some "modern marvel" that explains God himself, it just sounds kinda...well...*awkward*.

maybe a poor example, but what if some regular dude found another universe [yet every scientist out there missed it?]

Found an article on this topic, although not many websites have covered this piece when I searched on Google News.

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Jerusalem - The makers of a new documentary, to be aired for the first time at a news conference in New York Monday, claim that a tomb found in a Jerusalem cave 36 years ago belongs to none other than Jesus Christ. The claim presented in the documentary is based on years of research by world-renowned archaeologists, statisticians, experts in ancient scripts and in DNA, the Israeli Yediot Ahronot daily Friday quoted the makers as saying in an exclusive interview. The documentary, titled "The Burial Cave of Jesus," is a joint production by Israeli-born Canadian documentary maker Simcha Jacobovici and three-time-Oscar-winning Canadian film director James Cameron (Titanic, The Terminator). The 2000-year-old cave had already been discovered in 1980 in Jerusalem's Talpiyot neighbourhood. In it were 10 coffins, six of which bore inscriptions, which - translated into English - included the names "Jesus son of Joseph," twice "Maria," and "Judah son of Jesus." The second Maria is hypothesized to be Maria Magdalene, while the tomb bearing the name Judah could indicate Jesus had a son. If true, the find could be one of the most significant in the history of archeology and shake the Christian world. But the senior Israeli archaeologist who thoroughly researched the tombs after their discovery, and at the time deciphered the inscriptions, cast serious doubt on it. "It's a beautiful story but without any proof whatsoever," Professor Amos Kloner, who had published the findings of his research in the Israeli periodical Atiqot in 1996, told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa Friday. "The names that are found on the tombs are names that are similar to the names of the family of Jesus," he conceded. "But those were the most common names found among Jews in the first centuries BCE and CE," he added. Kloner dismissed the combination of names found in the cave as a "coincidence." The Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA), which is keeping the caskets in its archive in the town of Beit Shemesh near Jerusalem, declined to comment on the documentary, saying it had not researched the caskets and that its duty was only to safeguard them. The IAA nevertheless sent two of the caskets to the news conference in New York. The documentary, which took three years to make, is to be broadcast on the World Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision and Israel's Channel 8, which participated in its production. Copyright � 2007 Respective Author

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Originally posted by tubularbills the thing is, i guess, a lot of my faith is based off of the teachings of Prists and those of the Catholic church who have studied the Theology, the Bible, etc...etc...etc... people who do this stuff for a living. so for a hollywood director to have discovered some "modern marvel" that explains God himself, it just sounds kinda...well...*awkward*. maybe a poor example, but what if some regular dude found another universe [yet every scientist out there missed it?]

lol what!

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Originally posted by tubularbills the thing is, i guess, a lot of my faith is based off of the teachings of Prists and those of the Catholic church who have studied the Theology, the Bible, etc...etc...etc... people who do this stuff for a living. so for a hollywood director to have discovered some "modern marvel" that explains God himself, it just sounds kinda...well...*awkward*. maybe a poor example, but what if some regular dude found another universe [yet every scientist out there missed it?]

This is akin to saying that Bush has been the president for 8 years. He knows what he's doing. The criticism he is getting from the media is well...*awkward*

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Originally posted by SebG Finally my theory about the bible will be right. Its all just a big old story and people made this into a religion.

you're missing the point of it, then. A small group of people take it to be pure non-fiction, but most people don't. Proving that it's historically inaccurate won't change anything to people who aren't Pentecostal. Nevertheless, I'm sure that that group of people will be represented by the media as those who represent the whole of Christianity, and will be set up in an unnecessarily overblown conflict with their rival extremists, the most die-hard atheists.

Psshh...just found out. Christ's grave is in Kashmir.

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Dear Qadiani/Ahmadi Readers! Peace be on those who follow the hidayah Mirza Gulam Ahmad Qadiani, the founder of Ahmadiyya Movement claimed: "God has revealved to me in his special inspiration that Maseeh ibne Maryam is dead." (Tauzeeh-e-Maram, Roohani Khazain vol 3 p.402)] "I have been informed about the grave of Eisa (in Kashmir). And I have been informed by Holy Quran and God's Revelation to me about the Death of Jesus." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.358, 361)

Getting all mixed up, eh ?

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Well this shall be interesting...

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Originally posted by Omega_M This is akin to saying that Bush has been the president for 8 years. He knows what he's doing. The criticism he is getting from the media is well...*awkward*

not quite...considering someone who has studied theology for more than 20 years knows more about it than someone who has been "studying" politics for 8+ years]. but then again, i did say mine was a poor example.

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Originally posted by Omega_M Psshh...just found out. Christ's grave is in Kashmir. Getting all mixed up, eh ? Source

wait....what?!

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Originally posted by tubularbills not quite...considering someone who has studied theology for more than 20 years knows more about it than someone who has been "studying" politics for 8+ years]. but then again, i did say mine was a poor example.

The whole problem with religious belief is that, it's just a belief. The basis of everything the priest will tell you, is bible.

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