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alcohol is too expensive! But wait! It doesn't have to be! For a limited time...

First: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&highlight=wine

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Get a big container with a wide mouth. Pour the wine into the container. Put it in a freezer. Wait for it to freeze. The water will freeze but the alcohol will not. Take out the frozen water. Drink the alcohol

u know its illegal for you to drink right...

stop breaking the law. hehe jk, anyhow cant u just take some booz from ur parents cabinet with out them noticing?

You're drunk right now aren't you?

I haven't drunk anything for months.

Oh yea. This process is actually illegal. Therefore, I am not condoning it.

I think this video pretty much sums up everyone's feelings on underage drinking.

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Originally posted by Sunsnail I haven't drunk anything for months. Oh yea. This process is actually illegal. Therefore, I am not condoning it.

It's illegal to freeze wine to get the alcohol out? Or to brew (I'm not sure if that's the right word..) your own?

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Originally posted by Sushipunk It's illegal to freeze wine to get the alcohol out? Or to brew (I'm not sure if that's the right word..) your own?

It's legal to make your own wine. It is illegal to freeze your wine to concentrate it. Kind of silly really...

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Originally posted by Sunsnail It's legal to make your own wine. It is illegal to freeze your wine to concentrate it. Kind of silly really...

Wow that's pretty weird.

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Originally posted by dj_bas

Lol, I saw the still frame on that video after I posted, and thought "Fuck, I'm posting in the wrong thread!"

lol Sorry, I've just been looking for that song for a while and now I'm at work with no one to share my fantastic find to

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Originally posted by Sunsnail It's legal to make your own wine. It is illegal to freeze your wine to concentrate it. Kind of silly really...

Source?

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Originally posted by dj_bas lol Sorry, I've just been looking for that song for a while and now I'm at work with no one to share my fantastic find to

You're at work? What time is it there?

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Originally posted by Theresa Source?

Look up Distillation Act in your local country and it should tell you, most often this is because of tax purposes. Basically any kind of alcohol purification is looked upon 'dimly' by the state, especially if you sell it!

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Originally posted by Sushipunk You're at work? What time is it there?

10:30p Only 30 more mins to go! Woo!

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Originally posted by dj_bas 10:30p Only 30 more mins to go! Woo!

I hate that last 30 mins.

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I know, I keep watching that video so that's pretty sweet.

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Originally posted by dj_bas I know, I keep watching that video so that's pretty sweet.

May your time pass quickly, sir, and your fridge contain many beers for your arrival home.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk May your time pass quickly, sir, and your fridge contain many beers for your arrival home.

I know somethings waiting for me when I get home

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Originally posted by dj_bas I know somethings waiting for me when I get home _____________/

Freezing isn't an effective, way to separate the alcohol. The alcohol tends to prevent the entire solution from freezing... you get a kind of "slushie" instead of a block of ice with alcohol on top.

The best way to separate alcohol from a solution is to distil it.

Sites like the one below can teach you how:
http://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.php/Introduction

Alternatively approach a Russian and ask him how to make samogon.

That's a good point, but distillation can be dangerous if the still is not put together correctly, or if the distiller doesn't keep it at the correct temperatures. It also requires more $$$ investment. The goal of this thread was to help inform people on how, in a legal place and setting, to get cheap alcohol.

One of those standalone freezers does well. They usually can maintain temperatures well below freezer-refridgerator units.

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Originally posted by Sunsnail That's a good point, but distillation can be dangerous if the still is not put together correctly, or if the distiller doesn't keep it at the correct temperatures. It also requires more $$$ investment. The goal of this thread was to help inform people on how, in a legal place and setting, to get cheap alcohol. One of those standalone freezers does well. They usually can maintain temperatures well below freezer-refridgerator units.

Samogon was the drink of impoverished Russian/Soviet peasants and workers who lived in tiny flats or rural huts with no amenities well below the poverty line. Home-distilling in small quantities is fairly safe. And if you're good at improvising and working with your hands, it can be very cheap too (less than the cost of a freezer).

Secondly freeze distillation is illegal in many places precisely because a number of unwanted by-products of fermentation can accumulate in the distillate (which are naturally removed by heat distillation) to a potentially hazardous level.

True, but most people already have freezers.

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Secondly freeze distillation is illegal in many places precisely because a number of unwanted by-products of fermentation can accumulate in the distillate (which are naturally removed by heat distillation) to a potentially hazardous level.

I had read about that, but it doesn't seem to make much sense to me. Unless freeze distillation actually creates those unwanted by-products, then you're not getting any more of these by-products than was present in your original alcoholic solution, which in this case is very drinkable wine.

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Originally posted by Sunsnail True, but most people already have freezers.

Most people's freezers are part of their fridge and don't reach temperatures nearly low enough to get a decent amount of spirits out of the fermented product efficiently (ie in one go - chances are you'd have to do several freezings, and end up losing a lot of alcohol with the solids you remove). And probably not large enough to hold a sufficient amount of the wine in one go.

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I had read about that, but it doesn't seem to make much sense to me. Unless freeze distillation actually creates those unwanted by-products, then you're not getting any more of these by-products than was present in your original alcoholic solution, which in this case is very drinkable wine.

It doesn't increase the amount. It increases the concentration. If you turn a barrel of wine into a bottle of 100 proof spirits, you will get a lot more drunk a lot more quickly.
Now translate that example from alcohol to a more harmful toxin.

Well it's only a problem if you're going to get drunker off of the concentrated alcohol than the wine. If you're going to drink enough of the concentrated beverage that the increased concentration of toxins is going to be a problem, then your main concern probably won't be toxins, it'd be ethanol poisoning.

Unless I'm mistaken somehow. Is drinking 1L of 10% alcohol substantially better for you than 200ml of 50% alcohol, if all the components are the same except for the amount of water?

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