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A Wiki for the TA Production forum
Recently, I have been suffering through the 5 stages of grief for every thread that has gone beyond, carrying with it all the bright wisdom past the first page. I�m talking about the threads that have some smart people having some smart things to say, a good read. With a Wiki page built specifically for the TA production forum, I would be able to grab that information, recompile it into sophisticated language (not that it usually isn't) and edit it into the original article, citing the thread and the message as a source. That there's more to reverb, for instance, than a favorite slap-on preset can be presented at a glance. If you�ve ever been to Wikipedia, then you know how the WikiT (hehe) can contribute to the FAQ with regards to external sources, and how it would be able to endlessly receive the newly posted and searched-for information on anything and everything, on broad subjects, to technical and specific articles. Again, the content has to be particular to TA producers.
I want to know of the prospect of having such a page here in the production forum, and if it can be broadened to other trance communities.
Hosting should be a piece of cake, the question is where.
www.mediawiki.org/
that's the best idea I've seen for very long in theese forums.
I might be able to supply hosting for it but it depends on how large the database will end up being?
if I fix it I can fix a domain name like tawiki.com or edmproduction.com or something even better (as long as the domain is not busy already).
I work at a quite big webhostingcompany so it would be a piece of cake for me to fix it up in just a few days 
awesome, revolutionary idea.
Any idea how much traffic such a site could cause?
so the interest in this seems so so, at least so far.
No one else that has input, suggestions or ideas about this?
You know its going to happen.
Hehe,
So I've read around and there's a lot of gumph. Can anyone explain this in a nutshell?
Is it like installing wikipedia on your own server but you can do what you want with it e.g. delete shit about flowers and just keep audio related stuff. Then add links to TA threads about reverb from the wiki reverb article?
If that's the case can't you just set up a folder on your hard drive with links to your favourite threads? I'm not trying to be negative, just a bit unclear still on how this works?
Sounds great but it would probably need it's own mod for quality control and good hosting. Perhaps we could do this in correlation with the DJ Booth. There is a lot of great info in there as well.
Possibly donations? I don't know.
I'll ask Swamper about it as well
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| Originally posted by Ryan0751 For hosting... I have dreamhost which has a butt-load of storage space and shell access (nice for these types of things), for $9.95/month. |
(I work there so it'll be easy to admin anything I want to admin basicly)
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| Originally posted by Ryan0751 Wikipedia is an EXAMPLE (and a great one) of a "Wiki". You download and install (on your webserver) the Wiki application, which as far as I know is PHP/Mysql based. There will be no data in your new "wiki". From there you add content, determine who can moderate the content, etc. For hosting... I have dreamhost which has a butt-load of storage space and shell access (nice for these types of things), for $9.95/month. |
ill host for free finally put my server to some good use yes its in a datacenter so haha bandwidth is no issues. tons of space tons of monthly transfers tons of sql databases
ZxZDeViLZxZ: Sounds interesting
do you have more specific specs for us nerds out here? 
To be honest, Wikis make my skin crawl. I think they can work when you have a user base that's either very small (like internal to a small/medium-sized business) or tremendously large (Wikipedia), but you start to run into problems with mid-sized bases because there are enough trolls to abuse it, but not quite enough people to guarantee that someone will notice the abuse in a short time and care enough to do something about it (hence Greg's comment about mods/QC, but if the Wiki starts getting large then you need a whole army of them).
If you decide to go through with it anyway then I will still contribute to it and I'll even help out with the development if you want (assuming it's ASP.NET - I don't do LAMP). I'm just being candid when I say that I don't think it's that hot an idea. I've seen how these things often work out in practice and the results can be disappointing. Regardless, good luck, and in spite of my comments, don't hesitate to ask me for any help or contributions.
P.S. ZxZDeViLZxZ: I've never heard of a hosting facility that doesn't charge for bandwidth. Almost every single provider uses the same 95th percentile rules. Where did you find one that doesn't?
Lets settle on hosting then, upload, and off we go with the sysops. Although I kind of wish they were Jedops. That would have send them trolls one heck of a message.
Vizay, ZxZDeViLZxZ !!!! I guess it�s up to you 
There are also free offers like 110mb.com (PHP, Apache, MySQL, 2000mb, 100GB bandwidth, domain hosting, pretty much my Gmail account) where there are existing MediaWikis, which is a good sign. This is the best one I could find with respect to the numbers and compatibility. The problem with 110mb.com: the registration is closed for the next two days (no agreement to read, no setup etc.), and no chance of an insider admin. What would be your concerns with such a host?
Spam and misinformation isn�t a problem these days: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Spam
Once there�s significant growth of contribution, even when the �Recent changes� becomes unmanageable, there is further filtration that�s available. I also hope that there will be enough enthusiasm for the database that there will always be someone moderating areas of interest, validating information, freezing tutorials, and preventing He-Man mishaps. If it takes off with content, the lesser is the evidence of ill tempering, if not, then size will play an advantage. But lets wait and see.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sett...ts_in_MediaWiki
This brings up the other issue of size: traffic. Should it be judged by the stats of this sub-forum? The sound clips, presets, screenshots, from comments and tutorials wouldn�t pose a problem, seeing how they reach their limit?
this is a super fabulous idea
I really think we should do a DJ Booth/Production Studio Combo. Makes a lot of sense considering many producers are djs and vice versa as well as the fact DJing is becoming more and more a "live" affair and many production techniques can be useful for people getting into that sort of thing.
Viva La Revolucion!
Webspace 300 GB
Monthly Transfers 3,000 GB
MySQL Database (100 MB) 100
E-mail Account 4,000
Mailbox space 2 GB
i can not charge becuase im nice like that and i want to give back only thing ill ask for is a money for the domainname if you want your own domain if you just want a subdomain under one of my domains thats fine.
Take care of the donations box while at it?
What about a wiki.tranceaddict.com sub-domain redirect? wikit.tranceaddict.com makes me giggle, so I'd vote for that.
dont need donation box for hosting free of charge by me. will make me feel good about being a person or something.... maybe its the fact that the server gets paid for no matter what lol
GREAT idea.
Unfortunately, there is a lot of personal opinion and taste in this 'science', but we could definitely get many of the static variables down for people to enjoy.
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| Originally posted by bluebird Take care of the donations box while at it? What about a wiki.tranceaddict.com sub-domain redirect? wikit.tranceaddict.com makes me giggle, so I'd vote for that. |
what about we call it WikEDM ?
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| Originally posted by cybernetica what about we call it WikEDM ? |
I also think that this is a really great idea, it will also provide a place to point people with questions which are asked frequently! It'll save time for all of us I think. Anyway, hope it goes well, I'll contribute if it gets up and running.
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