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Hi all. i was just wondering if someone could make me a midi file with s fullness pattern (its usually in the first couple of beats before the kick starts, it includes snare hat etc). Ive been trying to make this for a few weeks now but i just cant get it right. A good exaple of what im talking about is from "lange vs gareth enery - another you another me (original mix). im talking about the beats that go up to and including the 45 sec.

Thanks in advance

Ok i found a sample of what im talking about. http://www.badongo.com/file/2329435 i want the midi file so that i can change all the snare, hat etc. sounds into something i like

Vengeance samples huh, why don't you just use that? Change some frequencies so it sounds different or something, im sure you wanna learn how to do it as do I but I put it in FL and looked at the WAV and figured some crap out. I'm no expert but i thought i would give it a go.

I know i left some stuff out but try and listen to it at a low volume and mess around putting your samples over it to cover it up, you know like matching it. I'm pretty buzzed right now so i cant hear everything right but i hope this starts you out.

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ROFL there is so much more to making a groove like that than MIDI...

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Originally posted by ASFSE ROFL there is so much more to making a groove like that than MIDI...

If your such an expert why not tell me all about it....
Oh and thanks heaps for the advice and midi gwrmarines although i was thinking more about the background noise like snare bongo and stuff like that. i know the basic patterns of the kick hats and clap but im missing the background sounds. my loops that i try to make just dont sound full. they sound verry empty

He's right, just making a drum pattern with the MIDI notes isn't enough. Those VEC loops (the ones which aren't ripped from tracks) have tons of EQ, compression, and quite possibly a few other things like light distortion or tube effects, flangers, etc.

You simply won't get that kind of sound with a plain vanilla sequence of plain vanilla samples.

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Originally posted by DigiNut He's right, just making a drum pattern with the MIDI notes isn't enough. Those VEC loops (the ones which aren't ripped from tracks) have tons of EQ, compression, and quite possibly a few other things like light distortion or tube effects, flangers, etc. You simply won't get that kind of sound with a plain vanilla sequence of plain vanilla samples.

so any advice of what i should do???? do you also think it could have something to do with the velocity

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Originally posted by catalystG5 so any advice of what i should do???? do you also think it could have something to do with the velocity

It definitely has something to do with the velocity. Its hard to get a good groove if everything is at the same volume every time. Its the accents that make it groove. A little bit of shuffle helps too, makes it sound less robotic.

what do you mean by shuffle

what do you mean by shuffle. how do you guys go about doing it

u need a highpassed kick, a shaker, an opeh hihat, and a close hat. and something else im not catching atm, its some kind of effect i think on the first bar

and craploads of group compression and compressed reverb.

personally i think it sounds like crap.

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Originally posted by catalystG5 what do you mean by shuffle. how do you guys go about doing it

what sequencer are you using?

ATM im using logic express, i will hopefully be upgrading to pro in a few days. is there any snare and what kind of a sound is a shaker? BTW i was using that loop as an example, i just wanted you guys to hear the background sound i was talking about

listen nigga...

the information you seek can only be answered by yourself. the answer comes from years of experiance and knowledge; there is no way to put it into words.

listen crackwhore.

if you cant help me whats the point of even posting a thread. if you cant answer the question dont try reply

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Originally posted by catalystG5 listen crackwhore. if you cant help me whats the point of even posting a thread. if you cant answer the question dont try reply

Don't get agressive. it won't get you anywhere on this forum, especially when you've already been given the answer.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Those VEC loops (the ones which aren't ripped from tracks) have tons of EQ, compression, and quite possibly a few other things like light distortion or tube effects, flangers, etc.

If you don't understand what any of that means, stop being a baby and expecting people to wipe your ass for you. www.google.com.

Learn and enjoy it, or quit.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ight=percussion

If you searched for percussion, you would find these. But again, like everyone else has said, a midi wont go very far.

Look at these as well...

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=224021
http://www.tweakheadz.com/how_to_ma...drum_tracks.htm
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=345356
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ight=percussion

This may give you some ideas too...
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ight=percussion

use loops and add your own effects and eqs....

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