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The "Goracle"
just so you guys that don't follow American pop culture know, Al "The Goracle" Gore just won an Oscar for best documentary "An Inconvenient Truth" at the annual Hollywood elitist suck-fest and sack-swinging Oscars and asserted that "People all over the world, we need to solve the climate crisis. It's not a political issue, it's a moral issue."
right, well this guys carbon footprint is only as big as his ego and his Nashville, Tennessee mansion. which, by the way, according to >Tennessee center for policy research<...
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| Last night, Al Gore�s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy. Gore�s mansion, located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES). In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home. The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh�more than 20 times the national average. Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh�guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore�s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359. Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore�s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006. Gore�s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore�s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year. �As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk the walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,� said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson. In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006. |
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| The 4,000-square-foot house is a model of environmental rectitude. Geothermal heat pumps located in a central closet circulate water through pipes buried 300 feet deep in the ground where the temperature is a constant 67 degrees; the water heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer. Systems such as the one in this "eco-friendly" dwelling use about 25% of the electricity that traditional heating and cooling systems utilize. A 25,000-gallon underground cistern collects rainwater gathered from roof runs; wastewater from sinks, toilets and showers goes into underground purifying tanks and is also funneled into the cistern. The water from the cistern is used to irrigate the landscaping surrounding the four-bedroom home. Plants and flowers native to the high prairie area blend the structure into the surrounding ecosystem. No, this is not the home of some eccentrically wealthy eco-freak trying to shame his fellow citizens into following the pristineness of his self-righteous example. And no, it is not the wilderness retreat of the Sierra Club or the Natural Resources Defense Council, a haven where tree-huggers plot political strategy. This is President George W. Bush's "Texas White House" outside the small town of Crawford. [URL=http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0429-03.htm]>link< |
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| Only your dispassionate Canadian correspondent could write this without colour or favour, but is it possible that George Bush is a secret Green? Evidently his Crawford Winter White House has 25,000 gallons of rainwater storage, gray water collection from sinks and showers for irrigation, passive solar, geothermal heating and cooling. "By marketplace standards, the house is startlingly small," says David Heymann, the architect of the 4,000-square-foot home. "Clients of similar ilk are building 16-to-20,000-square-foot houses." Furthermore for thermal mass the walls are clad in "discards of a local stone called Leuders limestone, which is quarried in the area. The 12-to-18-inch-thick stone has a mix of colors on the top and bottom, with a cream- colored center that most people want. "They cut the top and bottom of it off because nobody really wants it," Heymann says. "So we bought all this throwaway stone. It's fabulous. It's got great color and it is relatively inexpensive." Hmm, back to that vote about the Greenest President? |
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| The Tennessee Center for Policy Research is an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization committed to achieving a freer, more prosperous Tennessee through free market policy solutions. |
how many kWh is he saving worldwide by promoting climate awareness?
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| Originally posted by Dopey how many kWh is he saving worldwide by promoting climate awareness? |
He sure knows how to lead by example!
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| POWER: GORE MANSION USES 20X AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD; CONSUMPTION INCREASE AFTER 'TRUTH' Mon Feb 26 2007 17:16:14 ET Nashville Electric Service/Gore House 2006 High 22619 kWh Aug � Sept Low 12541 kWh Jan - Feb Average: 18,414 kWh per month 2005 High 20532 Sept - October Low 12955 Feb - March Average: 16,200 kWh per month Bill amounts 2006 � $895.60 (low) $1738.52 (high) $1359 (average) 2005 � $853.91 (low) $1461 (high) Nashville Gas Company Main House 2006 � $990(high) $170 (low) $536 (average) 2005 � $1080 (high) $200 (low) $640 (average) Guest House/Pool House 2006 � $820 (high) $70 (low) $544 (average) 2005 � $1025 (high) $25 (low) $525 (average) The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization, issued a press release late Monday: Last night, Al Gore�s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy. Gore�s mansion, [20-room, eight-bathroom] located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES). In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home. The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh�more than 20 times the national average. Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh�guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore�s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359. Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore�s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006. Gore�s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore�s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year. �As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk to walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,� said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson. In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006. For Further Information, Contact: Nicole Williams, (615) 383-6431 [email protected] |
Damn and I bitch when my power bill hits $120/month during the summer, add in the cost for both houses and its still under $260/month @ the hottest time of yr. His power bills/per month are higher than my food/gas/power/phones/isp and propane/grain/hops>(beer brewing) combined.
I think I remember an article where he was caught going to a speaking engagement in a hybrid but on his way back home, stopped and swapped vehicles for some big, gas-guzzling monster SUV...
I always thought he was a hypocrite...
What will Leo think???
I think he runs his A/C at full power to fight global warming. Get on board and join the fight!!!
Here's the real deal, or atleast the other side of the story.
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| A day after a film about his efforts to combat global warming won an Oscar, former Vice President Al Gore was called a hypocrite by a Tennessee group that said his Belle Meade home is consuming too much energy. The home's average monthly electric bill last year was just under $1,200, according to bills that The Tennessean acquired from Nashville Electric Service. "As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk (the) walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use," said Drew Johnson, president of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research, identified as a free-market think tank. Gore's power bill shows, however, that the former vice president may be doing just that. Gore purchased 108 blocks of "green power" for each of the past three months, according to a summary of the bills.That's a total of $432 a month Gore paid extra for solar or other renewable energy sources. The green power Gore purchased in those three months is equivalent to recycling 2.48 million aluminum cans or 286,092 pounds of newspaper, according to comparison figures on NES' Web site. NES joined the TVA program in 2000 to give power customers a way to support environmentally sound sources of electricity. The Tennessean could not determine when Gore signed up for green power. NES gets its electricity from TVA. Most is produced from coal, which emits carbon, a greenhouse gas. A lesser amount comes from nuclear power and a small amount from hydroelectric. An Inconvenient Truth, the movie about Gore's global warming battle, details how greenhouse gases are trapping heat next to the earth, causing a changing climate with melting ice caps and more violent storms. "Every family has a different carbon footprint," said Kalee Krider, a spokeswoman for Gore. The Gores' 10,000-square-foot house on Lynnwood Boulevard has a large one. The Green Power Switch program isn't all that Gore and his wife, Tipper, are doing, Krider said. They use compact fluorescent light bulbs and are in the midst of a renovation project that includes having solar panels installed on their home to reduce fossil fuel consumption, she said. Their car? A Lexis hybrid SUV. "They, of course, also do the carbon emissions offset," she said. That means figuring out how much carbon is emitted from home power use, and vehicle and plane travel, then paying for projects that will offset that with use of renewable energy, such as solar power. Gore helped found Generation Investment Management, through which he and others pay for offsets. The firm invests the money in solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe, she said. Johnson, whose group usually focuses on government spending issues, said he "doesn't differ much from Al Gore on his environmental concerns." "We went into this just asking the question, 'Is the leader of the environmental movement basically living up to his word?' Given that he's a Tennessean, I thought it's a question we should ask." What they found is someone whose home uses as much power in a month as an average family would use in a year, he said. In addition to the electric bill, the natural gas bill for Gore's home and guesthouse ran $1,080 per month last year, Johnson said. "For someone in his position not to take steps to reduce his own energy consumption is disingenuous," he said. "He's simply not taking all the steps he can take and should take as the leader of the environmental movement." Rather than attacking one man - Gore - Johnson and his group should be taking a larger view and trying to make a difference to reduce global warming, Krider said. That should include helping to get government and corporations, which are big energy users, on board to reduce energy and move to renewable resources, she said. "They're trying to single out one person rather than look at the big picture," Krider said. |
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| Originally posted by Shakka I think he runs his A/C at full power to fight global warming. Get on board and join the fight!!! |
My problem with this documentary (and most documentaries these days) is that it isn't a documentary. Its an opinion piece.
They should create a new category called "opinumentaries" for movies where the conclusion has already been decided before the investigation.
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| Originally posted by Omega_M Here's the real deal, or atleast the other side of the story. Source |
so global warming is not a problem because al gore has a big house?
interesting arguement
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| Originally posted by ResonantDrag so global warming is not a problem because al gore has a big house? interesting arguement |
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| Originally posted by Shakka Who said that? Welcome back. |
There is a different thread for global warming on this forum, quite active, where I am waiting for your input to argue your ass 
however, despite the wonderful books Al Gore writes, and movie he makes, he is a hypocrite, make no mistake about it. Plus, I personally think he and many other scientists are going in the wrong direction with global warming - I mean, check out Kyoto Protocol - its a complete joke. When will someone with Ph.D and who is "important" and influential actually propose something that will make a difference, not just some lame emissions crap talk that will have an immediate impact, and not like Kyotomoto crap, which HAS NOT slowed down the carbon dioxide emissions, and has no legal strength to enforce even the pathetic 5% reduction rule that can be bought by Carbon Credits, LMAO! Its all a political game, to make people think something positive is happening, while in reality things are getting worse and people themselves for a significant part contibute to the problem.
my ass is quite aware of the political masturbation involved with the global warming debate. what's the point to argue? maybe i'll sneak a peak at said thread.
seriously.
this whole "attack al gore's living arrangements" thing looks like yet another surface area red herring keeping the debate outside of the issues brought forth by the movie. I suppose this is part 2 to the "look how much time al gore spends in an airplane"
that's great that bush uses reclaimed water to irrigate the plants on his estate. and if i lived in the desert, i would as well. congrats on him living in texas to keep his heating bill down as well
we are still talking about a president that flew airforce one 90 miles to speak on environmentalism immediately after the state of the union. i guess the 20% reduction means that he won't fly as far.
Hey--this thread is about Al Gore so none of the commentary in here is inappropriate, IMHO. HOwever, if we were going off on Al in the "other" global warming thread, then perhaps it would be more off-base. In the meantime, let the Gore bashing continue. Fuck you Al!
i get steered to 9 pages of graphs!!
WTF!
it's like a ross perot nightmare over there.
back to the distraction... i mean gore bashing
edit: lol on the my TI-81 make better graphs
Clearly Al Gore is just like every other rich person with a huge mansion and a garage full of SUVs. I don't care how many carbon credits he buys and whatever BS reasons he uses to rationalize it, anyone who really deep down was concerned with the environment would not live in a house that consumes so many resources to heat and cool it. Its not necessary and its a waste of resources, its no different than someone who drives alone to his desk job in his Ford Excursion or H2 every day.
But then maybe if Tipper Gore was my wife I'd want a really big house too so I could stay very far away from her.
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| Originally posted by XaNaX But then maybe if Tipper Gore was my wife I'd want a really big house too so I could stay very far away from her. |
Someone already posted a bit of a refutation of this smear campaign. A few questions do need to be asked:
1. Who is the Tennessee Policy of Research?
Well, prior to this smear campaign, their website received absolutely no traffic:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/t...esseepolicy.org
I think it's also interesting that they claim to be nonpartisan, but have nothing but far-right links on their site:
http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/page.php?page_id=5
So this no-name, nonpartisan think tank with no traffic gets an immediate posting by Drudge at 5:16 PM on Monday immediately following Gore's academy win, and almost immediately you see the Right Wing Noise Machine engaging in full gear:
http://instapundit.com/archives2/002889.php
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/...rage-household/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791645/posts
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/artic...RTICLE_ID=54450
http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/4c69...dd-fd4ad13f6564
http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/200...gore-hypocrite/
http://www.redstate.com/stories/pol...gore_cub_slayer
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com...ives/009270.php
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/118874.html
http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archi...e_hypocrisy.php
http://wizbangblog.com/2007/02/26/a...nient-truth.php
Coordinated smear attack anyone? Look familiar? Have the markings of a one infamous Smear Boat attack of a Democratic Presidential candidate, by chance?
More to munch on - the President of this think tank group is Drew Johnson, the same fella who comes right outa the wonderful "nonpartisan" American Enterprise Institute:
http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=9
As well as the wonderful "nonpartisan" National Taxpayers Foundation:
http://www.mediatransparency.org/re...ecipientID=1129
As of Feb. 16th, the Tennessee tax dept. labelled this group "not a legitimate organization" as a result of their deliberate lying on questions about the group's opposition to their state's crackdown on drugs:
http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/i...m?news_id=54656
And of course we all heard that nonpartisan Rush Limbaugh and slanthead Hannity have their whack at this non-story as well yesterday and today.
Coordinated, and disgusting. One has to ask oneself just how threatening Al Gore really is to these people. He's not even fucking running for the Presidency FFS, yet there's just something about that darn environmental message that just gets underneath their skin. Hmmmmm.....
Gore's response is worth noting:
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| 1) Gore�s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology. 2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family�s carbon footprint � a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore�s office explains: What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore�s do, to bring their footprint down to zero. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/26...onds-to-drudge/ |
To tell you guys the truth, as much Al Gore is a hypocrite, you can't blame him much, I am not sending sharp criticisms his way - I am actually thanking him wholeheartedly for supporting, well actually, BRINGING TO LIGHT important issues. Why I support him? At least even though all of us are hypocrites in ways on this issue who say they are doing something about the situation, at least Gore has shown the way to many people around the world, a call to action, and I am sure that at least a handful of people are permanently changed by it, moving to a greener living. So Al Gore deserves a credit for that, though living not in environmentally-friendly way, he is still a hypocrite and ignorant like all of us, there's a reason why there's no progress on the issue, and won't be, no matter how many Iconvenient Truths will air on TV it won't change because people dont give a shit, dont want to change, and quite frankly say they support the environment, then turn around litter, damage environment, abuse electricity, nature, etc.
At least Al Gore spent a good portion of his life writing books on important issues, travelling around the world, learning and offering political support to green issues - thats an impact. If every politician was like Al Gore I am sure emissions would be down now. He is only one in an ocean, so to abuse him the way people do here is pathetic, rude, considering the impact and effect Al Gore has achieved to illustrate the environmental problems on the planet. For that, he still remains in my view one of the greatest American and perhaps some of the world's better politicians too.
The damage Al Gore does to the environment is hardly noticable to many other damaging countries, people and corporations. For his effort I forgive him for his hypocrisy and willing to ignore it, because he has done more for the environment than most of people.
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People who lash out at Gore in this thread are mostly those who want to feel significant because they themselves have done little for environment and want to look good by shunning down a prominent environment supporter who has done more than most of us together ever will.
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| Originally posted by MisterOpus1 |
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| Gore's response is worth noting: |
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| Oh, one last thing - how did this group get a hold of Gore's electricity bill? Is that not uhh, kinda sorta illegal? |
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