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Posted by Khayat on Feb-27-2007 23:57:

Recording Audio

hey guys,
Ok I know this might be the easiest Question on earth but im new to recording audio here and I cant set it up
What is the ideal way to record audio??
1- connect via Line in?
2- When I start recording using for example ableton I get a hell loud Distortion and its always red which means distortion?
What should I do low the line in volume or the synth or what?
3- There is this stooped delay I hear while playing back and is recorded when i press record so how to mute this delay and what is it?
I have these 3 problems as i stated above
please guys answer and help me as u can see in NOOb to audio recording
thanks in advance


Posted by ASFSE on Feb-28-2007 00:01:

1) what are you trying to record?

2) what is your setup...ie your gear.


Posted by Khayat on Feb-28-2007 00:03:

KORG KARMA adn im trying to record the tune on the sequencer of the Karma into tracks in ableton to move from hardware to software
but as i said i got distortion plus everything that made the sound crappy


Posted by ASFSE on Feb-28-2007 00:08:

ok...but what is your recording interface? your a/d converters?

im not familiar with the karma, but that's just a synth right?


Posted by Khayat on Feb-28-2007 00:11:

yeah its a synth without usb
my card is.. well I have 2 choices the live 5.1
and the card that came with the mother board this Realteck bla bla AC97
and believe it or not i had less distortion with the on board sound device


Posted by ASFSE on Feb-28-2007 00:17:

ok so like...you are recording with 1/8 inputs??? or what...check the levels of the input on your computer's sound card mixer.


Posted by Khayat on Feb-28-2007 00:19:

ohh now im lost lol
I have 2 input in the audio setup I can only see two one mono and one stereo
is this the right answer?


Posted by ASFSE on Feb-28-2007 00:22:

lol...

ok...i mean what kind of input jacks are they? are they the standard "cd player/headphone" type jacks, or are they 1/4"...like the ones you use for keyboards and guitars?

and did you check your computers soundcard mixer input level?


Posted by Khayat on Feb-28-2007 00:27:

ooh ok now I understand somehow
I have input like mic - cd payer - line in - speakers .. they are standards its a creative Sound blaster card my friend
but i think the Line in is the right input and yeah before i forget i have to make the volume max in the synth as its broken and it only works max so even when i make the line in min i get also distortion.
there has to be a way to control this but i dont know


Posted by ASFSE on Feb-28-2007 00:33:

ok well you need to use periods when you construct sentences so i can understand you better.

anyway...if you have not done so already...

go to control panels>sounds audio devices>audio tab>volume...

and a little mixer should pop up...fiddle with your "line in" fader...

i hope this helps...

oh and also...if your synth has to be turned up to max volume...that might be a big problem and you'd have to get that fixed if you wanted to record without distortion...but i think you maybe able to fix that with the "line in" fader...


Posted by Khayat on Feb-28-2007 00:37:

thanx dude i will try this and tell u later 2day
but.. my English is so baad lol well I will train on this lol
thanks man for trying to help i will try and tell u


Posted by ASFSE on Feb-28-2007 00:39:

hey sorry, i didnt mean to bash on your english...it's perfectly fine but periods are important lol.

good luck.


Posted by DigiNut on Feb-28-2007 00:40:

Not familiar with the Karma but here is some general advice:

- If it's got ADAT, use that.
- If it doesn't have ADAT, but does have S/PDIF, use that.
- If both your gear and audio interface has balanced XLR ins/outs, use those.
- If you've got no other choice, just connect a regular cable to your line in.
- Integrated sound on the motherboard is shit, period, and you should avoid it at all costs. I don't think the Live 5.1 is so great either, Creative's cards were not production-quality until the Audigy (they're still consumer-grade but they're "good enough"). I suggest just spending the 25 bucks to get the cheapest Audigy2 you can find.

You shouldn't be getting clipping from a synth to your line in. If you are, it either means your synth is clipping (doubtful), or you're boosting the signal somewhere (many sound cards allow you to boost input signals although it's usually done on mic preamps, not line ins). Something might also be boosted in your sequencer. Although, if you've got your line in fader cranked and it sounds OK at say, half scale, it could just be that the card is crap and clips at those volumes.

About your delay question, you have to word it better, because I don't understand what you're asking as written.


Posted by Khayat on Mar-01-2007 15:40:

Hey Digi
thanx man 4 ur help.About the delay I meant that when i play the sound on the synth i hear on the PC the sound plus its delay
weird isnt it?


Posted by Khayat on Mar-02-2007 10:58:

btw can someone please suggest a sound card
I was looking either for M audio Delta 1010 or I heard that the Mini M box is also cool
What do u think fellas


Posted by DigiNut on Mar-03-2007 00:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Khayat
Hey Digi
thanx man 4 ur help.About the delay I meant that when i play the sound on the synth i hear on the PC the sound plus its delay
weird isnt it?

Still don't understand. You mean you hear the sound twice? Maybe you have thru enabled.

I ain't touching the sound card question, hahah.


Posted by richg101 on Mar-03-2007 01:36:

buy an m audio 2496 card

its about �60 or less and will not give you the issues that you creative 'toy' is giving. the 2496 is a lovely machine

your synth will be ok working at full volume. just search for and adjust your input level on your soundcard mixer. turn down thr line in volume abit till it does not distort.


Posted by Derivative on Mar-05-2007 13:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Still don't understand. You mean you hear the sound twice? Maybe you have thru enabled.


Its not THRU. Its the same problem a million and one people encounter when they first buy a hardware synth.

The synth is playing back through the mixer in his DAW because he has routed an insert input from his synth to his soundcard outputs. At the same time it is also playing back through his soundcard's monitor mixer. The 'delay' is his cumulative ASIO latency.

The solution to this problem is to mute the monitor mixer. You do this in the control software for your soundcard or if your soundcard has mute buttons on the rackface. Alternatively, in your soundcard mixer, do not use monitor mixer but instead route the signal to the relevant outputs to which your monitors are connected.

For instance, I route the signal straight through to 'Delta 1010 out 1 and out 2' as my monitors are connected via the 1st and 2nd outputs on my Delta 1010. I skip the monitor mixer entirely.



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