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Posted by slinkyhead on Feb-28-2007 14:39:

FIFA's world cup "rotation policy"

Sepp Blatter has said he wants the FIFA world cup rotation to continue, this would mean 2018 WC would ideally be in the Americas (if N.American is counted seperate to S.America) and then 2022 in Asia.

I think this is an absolute fucking joke, Europe is the heart of football, its where almost all internationals players are based. For Europe to wait 16 years is a piss take.

2018 should see the WC come back to Europe, and preferably England. I hope the 2010 WC is a disaster in S.Africa to show it needs developed countires hosting such a major event.


Posted by chesco on Feb-28-2007 15:03:

Who's got 2014?


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Feb-28-2007 15:27:

I agree it's mental I say let the country who put's in the best pitch host the world cup providing it's devloped enough stadium wise and facilities wise.

Countries who can barely keep order on the streets that suffer appaling crime rates and have severe social problems cannot host such tournaments.

For the record Sepp Blatters always been a cretinous idiot.


Posted by trunks1022 on Feb-28-2007 15:53:

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
Who's got 2014?


TBA in november but south america i think.


Posted by K.I.K.E. on Feb-28-2007 19:56:

Gotta hate Blatter and his 'brilliant' ideas.


Posted by noikeee on Feb-28-2007 20:09:

The rotation isn't necessarily wrong - Europe shouldn't have the cup all the time, and giving a chance to Africa was fair. That being said, I think a system of "there can't be 2 consecutive cups in the same continent" or, say, a 3-way rotation between "Europe", "the Americas" and "the rest of the world" would've been better than a 5 or 6-way rotation between all confederations.


Posted by sleepydragon on Feb-28-2007 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan

Countries who can barely keep order on the streets that suffer appaling crime rates and have severe social problems cannot host such tournaments.



that rules out england then


Posted by sleepydragon on Feb-28-2007 21:59:

Re: FIFA's world cup "rotation policy"

quote:
Originally posted by slinkyhead

I think this is an absolute fucking joke, Europe is the heart of football, its where almost all internationals players are based. For Europe to wait 16 years is a piss take.


why is it a joke i think its a good idea. The whole idea behind this was to give countrys that never had it the world cup try and devlop football in those countrys its daft to just try and say that football is a european sport and no one else deserves it.


Posted by nchs09 on Feb-28-2007 22:38:

its the worlds sports.. whats wrong with the world sharing it?


Posted by chesco on Feb-28-2007 23:29:

I personally don't think there is anything wrong with rotation policy, in fact i think it's necessary, everyone deserves a shot at hosting it.


Posted by tubby on Mar-01-2007 00:03:

you can see plenty of football in europe any time. half the fun of going to a major event would surely be the travel to a new and different place. and if you are not going who really cares where it is, you'll see it just the same on tv.
I know I'd much rather go to see the cricket world cup in the west indies than go to the same stadiums I could every summer at home.

SA is only 1-2 hours time difference from england anyway.

what are the long lasting effects of the world cup in germany? a couple of new stadiums in places that already had decent facilities?
What will be the effect of the world cup in SA? massive new infrastrucutre and on-going tourism benefits to a part of the world that will really benefit from it.


Posted by Yohan on Mar-01-2007 04:19:

WC 94 kick started MLS and brought a level of awareness and interest for football in Yankland.

WC 02 opened the rest of the world to Asian football and how much it doesn't really suck.

I can only see benefits for WC2010. Well, if South Africa actually manages to host it. (and their national team kinda sucks)


Posted by Quethas on Mar-01-2007 09:50:

Actually apart from South Africa, which african country actually could host WC?

Rotation system doesn't sound too bad. And after all we still have EC.


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Mar-01-2007 11:47:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
that rules out england then


England has a bad crime rate but it's not as crazy as some countries in the world.

quote:
WC 02 opened the rest of the world to Asian football and how much it doesn't really suck.


It reminded me of having to book time off work, pull sickies and watch games at stupid times. By far the worst world cup I've seen, add to that annoying Korean fans.

It should be about who's got the best sales pitch and the facilities to host such an event, but the end decision should favour some rotation.


Posted by verndogs on Mar-01-2007 12:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan
It reminded me of having to book time off work, pull sickies and watch games at stupid times. By far the worst world cup I've seen, add to that annoying Korean fans.


you don't really have an excuse to whine with the times for that world cup

we in the Americas had to deal with games that were or 3-6 AM our local time for the 02 world cup


going back on topic:

I don't have problems with the rotation policy at all.


Posted by sleepydragon on Mar-01-2007 12:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan

It should be about who's got the best sales pitch and the facilities to host such an event, but the end decision should favour some rotation.


yeah but that would turn into who has the most money alot of countrys cant afford to invest in massive advertising campaigns just to then lose it richer countrys have got one up on them before they have even started. They should just stick to the rotation policy im not to sure why england is applying for it then if theres a rotation policy in place they wont be getting it.


Posted by slinkyhead on Mar-01-2007 13:08:

i agree with some form of rotation but to have this proposed rotation of:

2010: South Africa
2014: Brazil (probably)
2018: USA or Mexico
2022: China/Middle East maybe
2026: Europe
2030: Africa
2034: S.America
2038: N.America
2042: Asia/Australasia
2046: Europe
etc. etc.

is stupid. There are at least 6 countries in Europe that could host the WC, 2 in Asia, 3/4 in Americas, 1/2 in Africa so I def reckon it should be something like

Europe ----> Americas ----> Other -----> Europe etc.

Just my two pence worth.

It has to come to England soon though, its the only way we've got a chance of winning it.....lol


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-01-2007 14:21:

just concider youselfs lucky that u even have a possibility to host the world cup... ol littlle guatemala will never host that shit..


Posted by Yohan on Mar-01-2007 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Quethas
Actually apart from South Africa, which african country actually could host WC?

Rotation system doesn't sound too bad. And after all we still have EC.

Only other country with remote possibility is Egypt IIRC but they'd have to do a lot of investing in infrastructure. (though with their tourism industry, at least some infrastructure is already there)


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Mar-02-2007 06:02:

Sepp Blatter is an idiot. A few months ago, he was encouraging the FA to bid for 2018, now he rules out England until at least 2026? Hopefully this man fucking dies soon and a real football person can take his place.

Based on the realities of the footballing world, Europe should host this tournament at least every other or every third time around. And the next time it comes to Europe, England should get it.

With this tub of shit in charge, Iran will be able to make a serious bid.


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Mar-03-2007 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by slinkyhead
i agree with some form of rotation but to have this proposed rotation of:

2010: South Africa
2014: Brazil (probably)
2018: USA or Mexico
2022: China/Middle East maybe
2026: Europe
2030: Africa
2034: S.America
2038: N.America
2042: Asia/Australasia
2046: Europe
etc. etc.

is stupid. There are at least 6 countries in Europe that could host the WC, 2 in Asia, 3/4 in Americas, 1/2 in Africa so I def reckon it should be something like

Europe ----> Americas ----> Other -----> Europe etc.

Just my two pence worth.

It has to come to England soon though, its the only way we've got a chance of winning it.....lol


USA held back in 1994 so no chance.


quote:
you don't really have an excuse to whine with the times for that world cup


I do when I have to book time off work which I could be spending abroad. At least with 3 Am you could get some sleep in earlier wake up early and watch it.

It was biggist heap of wank I've seen as a World Cup. Especially the bias decisions the Koreans got in their favour.


quote:
yeah but that would turn into who has the most money alot of countrys cant afford to invest in massive advertising campaigns just to then lose it richer countrys have got one up on them before they have even started. They should just stick to the rotation policy im not to sure why england is applying for it then if theres a rotation policy in place they wont be getting it.


They should keep it the same as they've always had it.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Mar-04-2007 01:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan
USA held back in 1994 so no chance.


They (FIFA) should keep it the same as they've always had it.


I wouldn't be so sure about the USA not getting it for awhile. Everybody seems really up on this idea of expanding football to the USA and the only way Americans get interested in anything is if THEY are the centre of attention. God forbid they can't watch the games on TV if they aren't being played inside the continental United States!

Besides, Germany got the World Cup a mere 32 years after they hosted it the last time even though England should have been next in line for Europe. But FIFA is not fair; they are nearly as bad as the IOC for corruption, bribing and idiocy so I'm never surprised at Blatter's/FIFA's retarded ideas.


Posted by Ian on Mar-05-2007 13:17:

quote:
Originally posted by slinkyhead
i agree with some form of rotation but to have this proposed rotation of:

2010: South Africa
2014: Brazil (probably)
2018: USA or Mexico
2022: China/Middle East maybe
2026: Europe
2030: Africa
2034: S.America
2038: N.America
2042: Asia/Australasia
2046: Europe
etc. etc.

is stupid. There are at least 6 countries in Europe that could host the WC, 2 in Asia, 3/4 in Americas, 1/2 in Africa so I def reckon it should be something like

Europe ----> Americas ----> Other -----> Europe etc.

Just my two pence worth.

It has to come to England soon though, its the only way we've got a chance of winning it.....lol


I wholeheartedly agree here.

Not including england, there are countries in europe who are already capable of hosting such tournaments. England has all the stadia built already (with wembley all but finished now) and you could even include cardiff & glasgow & edinburgh for some games if needed, We've invested so much already in these new statiums (except portsmouth & fulham but they just have rich owners so can get away with it)

Africa hosts the cup of nations in many places rather well, however there's lots of countries with problems, also in asia, it's one thing to have a good stadium, it's another to have security issues.

If small nations want to host it, they could band together. get 4 or 5 of those together & use their best facilities and it might be feasible. With china having the olympics, i'd stay away for a bit from there, but take into account how they hold that as to if they can hold football. Other countries like saudi arabia & iran are so passionate but sadly I couldn't see there not being trouble with some western countries. Brazil too is really unsafe in places, they kidnap their own players ffs!


Posted by King Ecnal on Mar-05-2007 18:06:

Let's just hope 2010 doesn't let South Africa waltz through the group stages or anything... and create another Korea... because I really don't want to see a South Africa national team in another world cup after 2010... yes I've read the arguments for the WC creating buzz and making programs better... BUT I want the USA to be good in 20 years, not South Africa or some country that isn't the USA!!!!

I don't really have a problem with who hosts it, just the automatic entry to the host country, thats dumb... sure its their home country, but its the WORLD CUP... if your team sucks, you shouldn't get an automatic spot, you should have to compete like all the rest of the world... no more freebies!


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-05-2007 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
Let's just hope 2010 doesn't let South Africa waltz through the group stages or anything... and create another Korea... because I really don't want to see a South Africa national team in another world cup after 2010... yes I've read the arguments for the WC creating buzz and making programs better... BUT I want the USA to be good in 20 years, not South Africa or some country that isn't the USA!!!!


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