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Markus Schulz going mainstream?

Ok, now I realize that Markus is not exactly "underground", but I have always loved that he did something a little different than other DJs in his spinning style.

Dark, almost housy, around 134 bpm. I loved to go see him live, and the vibe and rythm he created was awesome.

The last two times I have been to see him however, have been a different story. The first time he was opening for Chris Lawrence, if I remember correctly, and when he came out, he was spinning at a BPM similar to Armin or Tiesto, with a sound that was not dark and proggy, just fast. Ok, he was opening for CL and might be trying to set that fast trancy mood, so I was willing to give him a second chance.

This last weekend I saw him at the Vanguard in Hollywood, California, and he was the headliner, not the opener. The opening DJ set him up with more progressively dark and hard banging tunes (BTW Jody Wisternoff kicks ass!), then Markus gets up to the booth and transitions to the same crap he was playing at the CL show. Fast, high BPM trance....

WTF? Is he only doing this in Hollywood? Is this the vibe he is only setting here? Or has he changed his tune everywhere? The live sets I have donwloaded seem to still be dark, like he was in 2005, but I don't want to hear live sets at home, I want to be in the damn club hearing that dark prog goodness!!!

I am sad because I do not think I will go see him again, and he reigned as my favorite DJ for quite some time. I guess I can still listen to the older sets and be happy, but I feel he sold out to fit that "top 10" dj format... =(

At least I found my new favorite DJ who opened for Markus a year or so ago: Matthew Dekay.

At least I know I wont catch Dekay playing ultra fast bpm garbage at the club.

What does BPM have to do with whether something is "mainstream?"

LOL@ ultra fast BPM. Since when is 138-140 BPM ultra fast? When Sasha was at his peak in the late 90s he'd take it up to the 17-138 BPM mark, and when Sven Vath was at his peak in the mid 90s he'd go up to 150 BPM.
That's one of the reasons why PVD never fails to deliver - he's never dropped his BPM down like Tiesto or Sasha have.
Of course, some long drawn out sets are great if the beat doesnt get too fast, so you can keep on dancing for a longer period of time, but it doesnt mean the tunes are better.
I guess that at the moment the tunes that Markus seems to be connecting with the most are a bit faster and less darker then what he was playing a couple of years back. That doesnt mean that he's gotten more commercial though. If anything slower BPMs usually seems to mean a more commercial approach, if you take a listen to uptempo House sets by the likes of Morillo, David Guetta, and Benassi.

yeah his party sets are a lot more bangin' than his radio sets

You have to realize that Markus does some trance towards the end of his sets, Who wants to hear progressive trance for 2-3 hour straight???

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Originally posted by limin_li You have to realize that Markus does some trance towards the end of his sets, Who wants to hear progressive trance for 2-3 hour straight???

I do.

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Originally posted by Light The Fuse yeah his party sets are a lot more bangin' than his radio sets

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It's a shame, there are plenty more dj's who play that kind of trance already, I'd like him to play the same tracks he plays in his radioshows instead.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles What does BPM have to do with whether something is "mainstream?"

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wtf.

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Originally posted by Light The Fuse yeah his party sets are a lot more bangin' than his radio sets

They would have to be won't they??


Think about it.. If Markus played the same tracks he did on the GDJB.. what would the reaction be then... I could see people bitchen saying that his sets where "too slow" or not bangin enough or yata yata yata... Armin seems to play Live the same way he plays on the radio show. Not very orginal imo.

The GDJB is for set for more "at home listing" then when you see him Live he "bangs" it out. I listen to the GDJB every week... and sometimes I can not see myself at a club dancing to the same set... Yes Granted he throws tracks in there that are played on the show. but they are the "harder" tracks.

Now I have seen Markus open.. close and be placed in the middle of odd Dj settings... Ie at Monster Massive 2005 he was after Judge Jules.. Mr. I play Bang bang at 150 bpm.. He got on played few tracks a lot harder then he would and brought it down with out lossing the energy of crowd.

Yeah, he took the ASOT trance route and you can hear almost no prog in his sets these days. And it does not depend on where does he play.

I�m seeing him today, though, giving him the last chance. He will play for 5 hours and in a small club, so I expect him to deliver more than the obvious.

If he played only his radio stuff, people would probably start nodding off rather than dancing.

Obviously he doesn't play all dark prog, he plays popular stuff like YearZero and Megashira, but he also does play alot of his dark/proggy stuff from GDJB.

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Originally posted by DarkMemoria If he played only his radio stuff, people would probably start nodding off rather than dancing. Obviously he doesn't play all dark prog, he plays popular stuff like YearZero and Megashira, but he also does play alot of his dark/proggy stuff from GDJB.

I looked at one of his recent GDJB tracklists and it was basically all 'trance' tracks.

Also, when he last played Chicago it was predominantly trancy stuff and he encored with Children and Silence. I'd say that's pretty commercial.

I don't think Markus has changed, the trance djs that are playing more Markus style trance, have changed.

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Originally posted by UWM I looked at one of his recent GDJB tracklists and it was basically all 'trance' tracks. Also, when he last played Chicago it was predominantly trancy stuff and he encored with Children and Silence. I'd say that's pretty commercial.

When he encored in Edmonton a few weeks ago, he played WoW - Mindcircus (G&D Mix) and BT vs. Sasha - Remember Magnetic North.

It felt like one of his classics showcases - it was amazing.

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Originally posted by weymouth I don't think Markus has changed, the trance djs that are playing more Markus style trance, have changed.

Markus changed A LOT. His productions pre 2002 were ace. Seems he lost the thrive imo.

markus was dark & proggy

anyway, long before most of you even heard his gdjb stuff he produced a lot of different stuff.

I saw him a few weeks ago and have to agree. I'm still a huge fan of Markus. At least he finished with Mindcircus.

There are enough DJ's playing banging electro as it is...

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 markus was dark & proggy anyway, long before most of you even heard his gdjb stuff he produced a lot of different stuff.

What Dj did not produce any different then they did a few years ago...

yeah i remember whn this song came out

You Won't See Me Cry [Renaissance Mix] - Markus Schulz-Perfect Timing, Vol. 2 (2001)

i didnt even realize it was Schulz until the other day that i looked at the cd cover, and it is a break-beat track.

I think is dope that he can switch his styles up from the radio show to the live shows. It shows versatility. Not too many dj's have that.

crazy

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Originally posted by promo1313 I think is dope that he can switch his styles up from the radio show to the live shows. It shows versatility. Not too many dj's have that. crazy

You do realize...


Ah, forget it. It's too easy.

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