"Play" button on my Denon S1000 barely works. Any solutions?

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Posted by Andryuha on Mar-06-2007 16:33:

"Play" button on my Denon S1000 barely works. Any solutions?

Just as the title suggests. This is getting pretty frustrating. The actual button works, but I have to press it really hard for it to function. Sometimes it doesn't work at all. Can I fix it or just bear with it?

Posted by Ryan0751 on Mar-06-2007 18:04:

Re: "Play" button on my Denon S1000 barely works. Any solutions?

You can call denon and have it repaired.

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Originally posted by Andryuha
Just as the title suggests. This is getting pretty frustrating. The actual button works, but I have to press it really hard for it to function. Sometimes it doesn't work at all. Can I fix it or just bear with it?

Posted by Andryuha on Mar-06-2007 18:42:

Re: Re: "Play" button on my Denon S1000 barely works. Any solutions?

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Originally posted by Ryan0751
You can call denon and have it repaired.

I realize that, but I'm trying to save some cash here. Do you think it's a DIY? I bought these decks used, so I don't think they are still covered by a warranty.

Posted by Ryan0751 on Mar-06-2007 19:59:

Re: Re: Re: "Play" button on my Denon S1000 barely works. Any solutions?

I don't think you should try.

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Originally posted by Andryuha
I realize that, but I'm trying to save some cash here. Do you think it's a DIY? I bought these decks used, so I don't think they are still covered by a warranty.

Posted by dj darroch on Mar-07-2007 00:58:

Solution:

1. Open up the cd player & make sure the button is secured to the motherboard or whatever the fuck is in the cd player & potentially make the problem worse.

2. Call denon to ask what they can do to solve the problem & how much it will cost.

3. Sell the junk & get a pioneer cdj 1000 (industry standard for a reason).

Posted by Ryan0751 on Mar-07-2007 01:13:

Don't be a tard.

Pio CDJ-1000's break too.

I've seen 2 that were f'd up (while I was playing out):

1. Hit cue, and the CDJ-1000 jumped to the next track.
2. The other one would just stop at random.

Shit breaks, get over it. But don't recomend that somone sell their $300 CD player and upgrade to an $1100 unit because their button wore out.

quote:
Originally posted by dj darroch
Solution:

1. Open up the cd player & make sure the button is secured to the motherboard or whatever the fuck is in the cd player & potentially make the problem worse.

2. Call denon to ask what they can do to solve the problem & how much it will cost.

3. Sell the junk & get a pioneer cdj 1000 (industry standard for a reason).

Posted by Andryuha on Mar-07-2007 01:51:

quote:
Originally posted by dj darroch
Solution:

1. Open up the cd player & make sure the button is secured to the motherboard or whatever the fuck is in the cd player & potentially make the problem worse.

2. Call denon to ask what they can do to solve the problem & how much it will cost.

3. Sell the junk & get a pioneer cdj 1000 (industry standard for a reason).

believe me - if I had the money, I would be rocking cdj1000s by now.

Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-07-2007 06:21:

CDJ 200s..problem sovlved. About $100 more than the S1000s, but hell of a lot more reliable. I'm going to get CDJ 200s this summer (freaking hell i'm downgrading from a CDJ 1000 MK2 to a CDJ 200, should have bought them in the first place, 1000s are too expensive and aren't all they are cracked up to be, unless it's an MK3).

Posted by Ryan0751 on Mar-07-2007 11:23:

Wuh?

1. The 200's are not more reliable than the Denon DN-S1000's. Why would you say that? Do you have statical data to back that up? I have friends who have the Denon's, and they have held up just fine.

2. Saying the CDJ-1000's aren't "all their cracked up to be", and then saying "unless it's an MK3" is retarded. The MK2 and MK3 are nearly identical. The MK3 adds:
- MP3 support
- A tension knob for scratching
- A slightly higher resolution display
- The ability to save more loops on the hot cue buttons

All of which are features which won't improve your ability to mix.

Don't be a Pioneer fanboy, it just looks bad. They make good products, but so do other manufacturers.

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
CDJ 200s..problem sovlved. About $100 more than the S1000s, but hell of a lot more reliable. I'm going to get CDJ 200s this summer (freaking hell i'm downgrading from a CDJ 1000 MK2 to a CDJ 200, should have bought them in the first place, 1000s are too expensive and aren't all they are cracked up to be, unless it's an MK3).

Posted by Andryuha on Mar-07-2007 13:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
CDJ 200s..problem sovlved. About $100 more than the S1000s, but hell of a lot more reliable. I'm going to get CDJ 200s this summer (freaking hell i'm downgrading from a CDJ 1000 MK2 to a CDJ 200, should have bought them in the first place, 1000s are too expensive and aren't all they are cracked up to be, unless it's an MK3).

uhmm, actually S1000s and CDj200s go for about the same price. I kinda even like the fact that I don't have the .02 pitch resolution because it allowed me to learn how to ride the pitch.

Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-07-2007 20:02:

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Originally posted by Ryan0751
Wuh?

1. The 200's are not more reliable than the Denon DN-S1000's. Why would you say that? Do you have statical data to back that up? I have friends who have the Denon's, and they have held up just fine.

2. Saying the CDJ-1000's aren't "all their cracked up to be", and then saying "unless it's an MK3" is retarded. The MK2 and MK3 are nearly identical. The MK3 adds:
- MP3 support
- A tension knob for scratching
- A slightly higher resolution display
- The ability to save more loops on the hot cue buttons

All of which are features which won't improve your ability to mix.

Don't be a Pioneer fanboy, it just looks bad. They make good products, but so do other manufacturers.

As far as features go and build quality, the 200s are. Denon products are okay, but Pioneer seems to make better built players. Kind of like Technics is to Stanton, Vestax or Numark. Pioneers are known as the industry standard and more people use them because of their reliable, it's quite known they are. I don't have any statistical data to back it up, just people owning more Pioneer CDJs (look on the Bedroom Pics thread, and 9 times out of 10 you'll find either a CDJ 200, CDJ 800 or CDJ 1000. More clubs use them too. Sure they may be about the same price, but the CDJ 200s are newer, have more features, and feel sturdier.

I've played around at GuitarCenter on the CDJ 1000 MK3s. It may just be a subjective thing, but i've found the overall design and build on the MK3s much better than my CDJ 1000 MK2s. The platters on the MK3s seem smoother, and it has the ability to adjust the platter sensitivity. Mine are too sensitive, and at times, not sensitive enough. One platter is looser than the other. The whole thing just seems cheaper, I dunno exactly why. It doesn't feel like something worth $1,000 that I paid for it. It's not so much about the features, as it is the way it feels. They must have constructed the MK3s better.

Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-07-2007 20:08:

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Originally posted by Andryuha
uhmm, actually S1000s and CDj200s go for about the same price. I kinda even like the fact that I don't have the .02 pitch resolution because it allowed me to learn how to ride the pitch.

They might, but I feel the CDJ200s are more worth the price for them. Haven't they stopped making new S1000s anyways?

Posted by Ryan0751 on Mar-07-2007 20:15:

Well Denon players were the industry standard CD players for about a decade before the Pioneer CDJ-1000's came out, changing the market. G

For the current style of "tabletop" CD players, Pioneer has certainly won that segment of the market, but it does not mean that Denon products are inherently problematic.

Pioneer has had it's share of issues too. For example, the firmware on the CDJ-1000 MK3 had several bugs which caused a number of high profile DJ's to refuse playing on them when they first came out (they have since been fixed).

Likewise, Denon's DN-S3500 deck had a number of firmware issues that were later fixed.

I don't know that the CDJ-200 feels sturdier than the DN-S1000. I found the platter to be very cheap feeling on the 200. The DN-S1000 is not much better, but it's really just a CD sized piece of plastic on a solid touch sensitive base. The rest of the unit is really solid, and very compact.

If I were to purchase a new pair of inexpensive CDJ's at this point, I'd probably take the 200's myself as they have .02 pitch resolution.

As for the CDJ-1000's... the MK3 lets you adjust the resistance of the platter, but not the sensitivity. If you've ever touched an MK1, it has a VERY tight platter compared to the MK2's.

I did notice that the MK3's felt a little sturdier in the store (I have MK2's), but I wasn't sure if it was just because they were new or what not. I do think that neither model really "feels" as solid as they should for $1100! They should really feel more like a high quality mixer in terms of buttons, knobs, etc.

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Originally posted by Spirit5
As far as features go and build quality, the 200s are. Denon products are okay, but Pioneer seems to make better built players. Kind of like Technics is to Stanton, Vestax or Numark. Pioneers are known as the industry standard and more people use them because of their reliable, it's quite known they are. I don't have any statistical data to back it up, just people owning more Pioneer CDJs (look on the Bedroom Pics thread, and 9 times out of 10 you'll find either a CDJ 200, CDJ 800 or CDJ 1000. More clubs use them too. Sure they may be about the same price, but the CDJ 200s are newer, have more features, and feel sturdier.

I've played around at GuitarCenter on the CDJ 1000 MK3s. It may just be a subjective thing, but i've found the overall design and build on the MK3s much better than my CDJ 1000 MK2s. The platters on the MK3s seem smoother, and it has the ability to adjust the platter sensitivity. Mine are too sensitive, and at times, not sensitive enough. One platter is looser than the other. The whole thing just seems cheaper, I dunno exactly why. It doesn't feel like something worth $1,000 that I paid for it. It's not so much about the features, as it is the way it feels. They must have constructed the MK3s better.

Posted by Ryan0751 on Mar-07-2007 20:17:

Not that I know of... the DN-S1000 came out just a few months before the CDJ-200's.

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
They might, but I feel the CDJ200s are more worth the price for them. Haven't they stopped making new S1000s anyways?

Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-07-2007 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
Not that I know of... the DN-S1000 came out just a few months before the CDJ-200's.

Oh ok didn't know that. I thought the DN-S1000s were like four or five years old, or older. They look like an older style.

Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-07-2007 20:33:

I still would rather, for a home set up, own the CDJ 200s. I really should have just gone with them in the first place. Thing is, if something were to happen to them, say when transporting them to a party or into another room...it wouldn't be as big of a deal if you accidently drop them. I mean if you happen to damage your CDJ 1000 MK2s or MK3s, or spill something on them and say they can't fix it, you just screwed yourself out of $1,200 or so, more than the price of two CDJs 200s (about $700 - $800 for both). For that price, you can get two CDJ 200s, and a DJM 400 mixer. Perfect home set up, has effects, looping and .02 pitch resolution. The only thing it doesn't feature really is scratch ability, but that would only benefit those who actually do scratch..hip hop DJs or turntablists, or those guys like Zabiela or Halliwell.

Posted by Ryan0751 on Mar-07-2007 21:10:

True, that would be a nice home setup, and very compact

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
I still would rather, for a home set up, own the CDJ 200s. I really should have just gone with them in the first place. Thing is, if something were to happen to them, say when transporting them to a party or into another room...it wouldn't be as big of a deal if you accidently drop them. I mean if you happen to damage your CDJ 1000 MK2s or MK3s, or spill something on them and say they can't fix it, you just screwed yourself out of $1,200 or so, more than the price of two CDJs 200s (about $700 - $800 for both). For that price, you can get two CDJ 200s, and a DJM 400 mixer. Perfect home set up, has effects, looping and .02 pitch resolution. The only thing it doesn't feature really is scratch ability, but that would only benefit those who actually do scratch..hip hop DJs or turntablists, or those guys like Zabiela or Halliwell.

Posted by Matt on Mar-08-2007 03:58:

I love the Denon 1000s... they are incredible bang-for-the-buck cd decks.

As for fixing them... I think it's probably best to have them repaired by a professional.

Do some Google searches and see if anyone has had similar problems - there could be a quick and easy fix.