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Posted by GTaudiophile on Mar-11-2007 15:12:

Why Does ATB Get Such Bad Treatment Here?

I personally love his work, granted it is softer, more melodic, and more "poppy" than what people here refer to as hardcore House/Trance.


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Mar-11-2007 15:16:

i think it was because he was on mainstream radio. then a good number of his songs were using the sittar(sp?), so he was labeled a one-trick whorse.
but since Moving Melodies, he's moved onto a more mature production value and he's just "pretty good" right now. Nothing is ever really astounding from him, but he's a pretty good DJ to make up for that.
i rather like most of his work. calm and placid


Posted by Dj EntycE on Mar-11-2007 15:21:

Because he produces a different kind of Trance. He's not making the typical ASOT-track. People aren't open-minded here that's all.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Mar-11-2007 15:26:

I think it's probably something along the lines of him being a dog shit producer and an even shitter DJ. I could be wrong though.


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Mar-11-2007 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I think it's probably something along the lines of him being a dog shit producer and an even shitter DJ. I could be wrong though.


half past dead wrong


Posted by Project-K on Mar-11-2007 16:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj EntycE
Because he produces a different kind of Trance. He's not making the typical ASOT-track. People aren't open-minded here that's all.




what these nooblars will come up with sometimes...


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Mar-11-2007 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
half past dead wrong

That almost makes sense.


Posted by djdk on Mar-11-2007 16:19:

quote:
Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
he's a pretty good DJ to make up for that


Im sorry, what?

Every set Ive heard from him has been utter wank, questionable tunes and seriously bad mixing.


Posted by Dj EntycE on Mar-11-2007 16:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Project-K


what these nooblars will come up with sometimes...




Huh?


Posted by Minhaj on Mar-11-2007 16:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj EntycE
Because he produces a different kind of Trance. He's not making the typical ASOT-track. People aren't open-minded here that's all.


fuck off please


Posted by SMC on Mar-11-2007 16:48:

He's kinda underrated imo. He may not be the most brilliant producer out there, but he do writes some sweet music. I bought his first two albums Moving Melodies and Two Worlds at the time they were released and i still love them both. I love the relaxing, fresh and summery vibes on them. His sound is very basic and uncomplicated but at the same time he has, or at least had, a recognizable sound. I'm not a fan of his more recent singles with big cheesy synthwork, i like his old album work and even the first singles are great, 9pm, Don't Stop etc, they're classic.


Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-11-2007 17:10:

His vocal stuff is pretty bad IMO, except maybe some of the vocal tracks on "Two Worlds". I rate his albums this way...

1. Movin' Melodies
2. Two Worlds
3. No Silence
4. Dedicated
5. Addicted To Music

IMO, he's a poor version of Chicane. As Chicane was able to make a more sophisticated, yet melodic and at points mainstream sound (except IMO he's gone the cheesy route with his new stuff) ATB makes a sound that would be considered less mature, more playful and fun. It's summery, but in a more youthful and silly type of way. At points he gets kind of sappy, but I feel his more ambient chill-out tracks like "Circular Symetry" are brilliant and if he made more of those types of tracks, IMO he'd be a better rated producer.

He can definitely produce memorable melodies and if your looking for uplifting, his music is almost guranteed to be. You wont find him producing many "dark" tracks, which kind of makes people accuse him of being "cheesy" and just a crappy producer. Surely there's better produces out there, but he's not bad. As a DJ....very poor though. I'll give him that. He can't mix music very well. Just because your a decent producer, doesn't mean you can be a good DJ (the same with BT, i've heard his DJing isn't all that great).


Posted by TwistedDUO on Mar-11-2007 17:14:

From a marketing standpoint, the guy does good. He produces music that is catchy and attainable. It's about as "safe-and-sane" as you can get with EDM. Why the guy takes alot of heat. Well it's simple. Listen to his music dating back to 1998. It never changes or evolves. EVER. You can predict what his next song is without fail. Maybe his outlook is one of not fixing what isn't broke, but it lacks evolution and progression. Add to the fact that he did a horrible cover of Seal's - Killer. Well that just added insult to injury.

As a dj, I've seen him twice. The first time it was okay. It was everything I had expected from ATB. Poppy, quirky, and downright sudsy-clean fun. The second time, the music hadn't changed and the mixing was horrid. It seemed like 20 different versions 9pm and mixed badly. I haven't seen him recently because I no longer have interest in his music. I picked up "Summer Rain" awhile back and have yet to play it. It's boring and dull.


Posted by SMC on Mar-11-2007 17:26:

quote:
Originally posted by TwistedDUO
he did a horrible cover of Seal's - Killer.


I kinda liked it.


Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-11-2007 17:35:

Actually I think ATB's music has evolved. Listen to "No Silence" and you'll find ATB's signature sound, but it's a more "matured" sound than "Movin' Melodies". Sure it's still very melodic, but it's his most mature album to date. It's not progressive house, I mean no one should expect him to start producing dark and deep progressive house music or electro even. It's not his style, he seems happy producing what he likes, and he definitely seems to like the more melodic aspects of the music. Even the dance tracks on "No Silence" like "Marrakech" and "Ecstacy" and "Intencity" sound a little more sophisticated than "9 PM Till I Come" or "Don't Stop". The melodies and tracks just sound smoother, more polished, and a little darker might I add.


Posted by Porky on Mar-11-2007 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5


IMO, he's a poor version of Chicane. As Chicane was able to make a more sophisticated, yet melodic and at points mainstream sound (except IMO he's gone the cheesy route with his new stuff) ATB makes a sound that would be considered less mature, more playful and fun. It's summery, but in a more youthful and silly type of way. ... He can't mix music very well. Just because your a decent producer, doesn't mean you can be a good DJ (the same with BT, i've heard his DJing isn't all that great).


= euphemism


quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
him being a dog shit producer and an even shitter DJ.


= honesty


Posted by TwistedDUO on Mar-12-2007 00:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
Actually I think ATB's music has evolved. Listen to "No Silence" and you'll find ATB's signature sound, but it's a more "matured" sound than "Movin' Melodies". Sure it's still very melodic, but it's his most mature album to date. It's not progressive house, I mean no one should expect him to start producing dark and deep progressive house music or electro even. It's not his style, he seems happy producing what he likes, and he definitely seems to like the more melodic aspects of the music. Even the dance tracks on "No Silence" like "Marrakech" and "Ecstacy" and "Intencity" sound a little more sophisticated than "9 PM Till I Come" or "Don't Stop". The melodies and tracks just sound smoother, more polished, and a little darker might I add.


It just seems that now he's really trying too hard to be typecasted but the programming is nearly identical. Now it's ATB toned down. It's just boring and uninteresting to me.


Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-12-2007 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by TwistedDUO
It just seems that now he's really trying too hard to be typecasted but the programming is nearly identical. Now it's ATB toned down. It's just boring and uninteresting to me.


Maybe it's good he has toned some things down. Some of his productions in the past, like on Movin' Melodies, were a bit over the top.


Posted by Minhaj on Mar-12-2007 05:12:

im kinda looking forward 2 his new stuff
heres sample of one of the tracks
http://tnapurity.110mb.com/trilogy/Adreamaboutyou.wmv
thats a fan made video btw


Posted by RebeL9 on Mar-12-2007 06:00:

his DJing is horrible, mixing is worse than a 10 year old bedroom dj. seriously.


Posted by SMC on Mar-12-2007 06:20:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
his DJing is horrible, mixing is worse than a 10 year old bedroom dj. seriously.


Sure, and he's probably also bad cook. But thread starter is clearly talking about his music.


Posted by CrazedOut on Mar-12-2007 06:52:

quote:
Originally posted by SMC
I kinda liked it.


Is it that one titled Killer 2000?


Posted by SMC on Mar-12-2007 06:58:

quote:
Originally posted by CrazedOut
Is it that one titled Killer 2000?


Yes.


Posted by CrazedOut on Mar-12-2007 07:15:

quote:
Originally posted by SMC
Yes.


Yeah I also enjoyed that one.

I love ATB as a producer, and as a DJ... well I'll have to wait for March 31st to decide on that.


Posted by the gamemaster on Mar-12-2007 07:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
His vocal stuff is pretty bad IMO, except maybe some of the vocal tracks on "Two Worlds". I rate his albums this way...

1. Movin' Melodies
2. Two Worlds
3. No Silence
4. Dedicated
5. Addicted To Music

IMO, he's a poor version of Chicane. As Chicane was able to make a more sophisticated, yet melodic and at points mainstream sound (except IMO he's gone the cheesy route with his new stuff) ATB makes a sound that would be considered less mature, more playful and fun. It's summery, but in a more youthful and silly type of way. At points he gets kind of sappy, but I feel his more ambient chill-out tracks like "Circular Symetry" are brilliant and if he made more of those types of tracks, IMO he'd be a better rated producer.

He can definitely produce memorable melodies and if your looking for uplifting, his music is almost guranteed to be. You wont find him producing many "dark" tracks, which kind of makes people accuse him of being "cheesy" and just a crappy producer. Surely there's better produces out there, but he's not bad. As a DJ....very poor though. I'll give him that. He can't mix music very well. Just because your a decent producer, doesn't mean you can be a good DJ (the same with BT, i've heard his DJing isn't all that great).


i think he pretty much said it. imo hes not a "dog shit producer" hes just nothing special, ian van dahl are dog shit producers, not atb


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