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djs can't play more of their own music and mixes when they perform live?

why play 4 of your tracks out of a set of 20? forgive me if this was already posted!

edit: i mean why don't the majority of djs not play more of their own tracks in their set lists?

They do (See: Gabriel & Dresden) - and no one is stopping anyone from doing so if they choose.

That depends on who's playing?
Some Dj's play 20/20 of their own stuff and some dont play anything of their own..
So it all comes down to who's playing..
16Bit Lolitas, Trentemoller, Radio Slave etc.. play 19/20 own stuff

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Originally posted by DuBam 16Bit Lolitas. . . play 19/20 own stuff

Have you ever heard a set of theirs? They play a fair number of their own productions, but no where near as many as you think.

Ok i overdid it a little.. Let's change it to Bodzin & Huntemann?

Im sure you got ze point..

I'm not sure I have ever heard a popular and established producer play a DJ set that didn't include one or more of his own tracks.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...light=Sean+Tyas

Westbam Live At Einslive Rocker 09.09 2006

01. H-Man - Manga (Thomas Schumacher Remix)
02. Citizen Kain - Skin Boy
03. My Robot Friend - Dial Zero (Modeselektor Remix)
04. Audiojack - Robot (Lee Mortimer Remix)
05. Mark & John - Pick up the Phone
06. Ozgur Can - Mellanspelet
07. Alex Flatner - Strings of a Maniac (Martin Eyerer RMX)
08. Alterno79 - GTI (Lutzenkirchen RMX)
09. peshuma - Montauk Nights [Marcus Hartmann Remix]
10. Paul Nasca - Svell
11. Daso - Sam n`Max
12. Extrawelt - Sternschaden
13. Franco Zeiger - Sonnenwind
14. Groove Rebels - La Nuit Magique
15. Dirk Technik - I love You (Smallboy RMX)
16. Ron Flatter - Nettement
17. Members of Mayday - Sonic Empire (Ian Oliver Rmx)
18. D.I.M. - Sysiphos
19. No Brain No Gain - Dual Bass
20. Ozgur Can - Sunday (Stian Klo Remix)
21. Motor - Black Powder
22. Soulwax - E Talkin (Lowbird`s Hi-Five Mix)
23. Madox - The Resonance Song

1 of 23 and number 17 is not Westbam, it's Westbam & Klaus and a totally unrelated remixer.. so that's pretty close..

I think she just worded this wrong. Anyways, there are plenty of djs that play many of their own tracks in their sets:

Ferry Corsten
Marco V
Sean Tyas
16 Bit Lolitas
Trentemoller (though he doesn't really dj per s�)
Gabriel & Dresden

The reason why it's not such a good idea is because generally if a dj has an entire set compiled of their own tracks, it means that not all of those tracks are really any good. Many of them tend to be quickly-produced fillers. This isn't true in all cases, but it does tend to happen.

yeah, that's true it depends on who's playing.

and yes, 16 bit lolitas seem to play more of their stuff.

i've seen some set lists where the dj played NOTHING of theirs. it shouldn't matter if yu haven't had a song out in a whie, i don't think they should not play more of their own stuff. hello? i came there to see a live show with more of YOUR music and your presence. i understand you have to play tracks that are various, but to play 3 or 4 out of 20 or 25 seems odd.

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Originally posted by AndreaCKY772 yeah, that's true it depends on who's playing. and yes, 16 bit lolitas seem to play more of their stuff. i've seen some set lists where the dj played NOTHING of theirs. it shouldn't matter if yu haven't had a song out in a whie, i don't think they should not play more of their own stuff. hello? i came there to see a live show with more of YOUR music and your presence. i understand you have to play tracks that are various, but to play 3 or 4 out of 20 or 25 seems odd.

Not every DJ is a producer, and not every producer is all that great of a DJ.

Sets that are made up primarily of the performers productions almost always seem bland and uninteresting to me.

I go to clubs to hear good music, it certainly doesn't matter whom it was created by as long as I'm enjoying it.

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Originally posted by AndreaCKY772 yeah, that's true it depends on who's playing. and yes, 16 bit lolitas seem to play more of their stuff. i've seen some set lists where the dj played NOTHING of theirs. it shouldn't matter if yu haven't had a song out in a whie, i don't think they should not play more of their own stuff. hello? i came there to see a live show with more of YOUR music and your presence. i understand you have to play tracks that are various, but to play 3 or 4 out of 20 or 25 seems odd.

So you're saying you want a dj to play mostly only their own stuff? I'd have to disagree mainly based on my point listed above as well as a few others. Namely, you can go to see a dj based on the tracks that they find and play. Not necessarily their own, but the ones that they find of others that no one else seems to play, then how they work it into their set perfectly. You can see a dj based on the mood and flow they create, not just the shit that they've produced (and sometimes half-assed at that).

dj does not equal production. Going to see a dj for their productions is like liking a chef because they grow their own crops and not because they cook well.

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Originally posted by RJT Not every DJ is a producer, and not every producer is all that great of a DJ. Sets that are made up primarily of the performers productions almost always seem bland and uninteresting to me. I go to clubs to hear good music, it certainly doesn't matter whom it was created by as long as I'm enjoying it.

+1

Case Closed

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Originally posted by Demoted dj does not equal production. Going to see a dj for their productions is like liking a chef because they grow their own crops and not because they cook well.

That's probably the best analogy I've ever read.

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Originally posted by RJT That's probably the best analogy I've ever read.

Inspired by Mitch Hedberg

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Originally posted by AndreaCKY772 hello? i came there to see a live show with more of YOUR music and your presence. i understand you have to play tracks that are various, but to play 3 or 4 out of 20 or 25 seems odd.

I guess you�re totally missing the point of djing. DJs are not rockstars ffs!
























Oh wait...

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Originally posted by Demoted Inspired by Mitch Hedberg

Does that mean you are going to start doing smack even though you have a serious heart condition and drop dead in a motel sometime "unexpectedly?"



I hope not.

i see what you guys are saying. and you're right, as long as you're having fun with the music, it's still good.

i don't know, i was having a discussion about this with one of my friends and we both were wondering the same thing. maybe i'm just one of the few that feels this way?

if i go to see a markus schulz show, i want to hear more of his works and his remixes (he seems to do a pretty good job of incorporating his music styles and his works remixes in his sets).

in part of my discussion with my friend, he asked me if i was going to see avb at avalon and i told him no because i'm not really into avb all that much. he tol me it sdhouldn't matter because most djs don't play a lot of their music in their sets anyhow. i knew this was true but i don't think it should be like that.

i'm just wondering why more djs don't include more of their stuff is all. variety is nice, no doubt but i think if you are the person trowing the show, thenyou should be able to incorporate more of your work, you see?

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Originally posted by RJT Does that mean you are going to start doing smack even though you have a serious heart condition and drop dead in a motel sometime "unexpectedly?" I hope not.

Beats old age.

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Originally posted by paulandrews I guess you�re totally missing the point of djing. DJs are not rockstars ffs! Oh wait...

i don't think that is necessarily true about missing the point of djing.

haha i guess i'm realy in the minority about this.

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Originally posted by AndreaCKY772 i'm just wondering why more djs don't include more of their stuff is all. variety is nice, no doubt but i think if you are the person trowing the show, thenyou should be able to incorporate more of your work, you see?

No.

A solid Dj's concern is playing a good show, not whoring their own work.

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Originally posted by Demoted Namely, you can go to see a dj based on the tracks that they find and play. Not necessarily their own, but the ones that they find of others that no one else seems to play, then how they work it into their set perfectly.

Exactly.

I want to see a DJ because I like his taste in music and his aptitude in finding tracks that I'll enjoy, not to hear him be a two or three-hour advertisement for his own productions.

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Originally posted by AndreaCKY772 i see what you guys are saying. and you're right, as long as you're having fun with the music, it's still good. i don't know, i was having a discussion about this with one of my friends and we both were wondering the same thing. maybe i'm just one of the few that feels this way? if i go to see a markus schulz show, i want to hear more of his works and his remixes (he seems to do a pretty good job of incorporating his music styles and his works remixes in his sets). in part of my discussion with my friend, he asked me if i was going to see avb at avalon and i told him no because i'm not really into avb all that much. he tol me it sdhouldn't matter because most djs don't play a lot of their music in their sets anyhow. i knew this was true but i don't think it should be like that. i'm just wondering why more djs don't include more of their stuff is all. variety is nice, no doubt but i think if you are the person trowing the show, thenyou should be able to incorporate more of your work, you see?

We're not saying it's wrong for a dj to play all of their own productions (well I'm not at least), it just has to be full of really GOOD productions by them. If you start playing only your own productions, you've narrowed your library down by millions of tracks, meaning quality generally goes out the window. This means that if you're playing your own productions, the productions BETTER be good. Considering the object of the dj is usually seen as playing other people's music and mixing it in a way people hadn't thought of, removing one of the main conventional tenants of djing means your own productions better be musical ambrosia.

Which leads me to question why you want to hear an entire set of Markus productions

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he tol me it sdhouldn't matter because most djs don't play a lot of their music in their sets anyhow.

yeah, but they usually play music of the same style of their productions, otherwise even the 2/3 own dj productions wouldn't fit well in the set at all.

oh definitely!

that is a valid point to not want to see one dj playing strictly ONLY their stuff. i'm not saying i want them to play only their stuff and nothing else. it's nice to hear some other music and it's nice hearing the djs incorporate their styles of music with other tracks from other artists. it's good their supporting ther fellow djs and styles and tracks they and the listeners like. i think it's important to mix and match but not stray too far from styles in that current set/tracklist.

i'd just like to see something like this:

1. DJ A - track A
2. DJ A - track B
3. other dj
4. other dj
5. other dj
6. DJ A - track C
7. other dj - (DJ A remix)
8. other dj
9. DJ A - track D
10. other DJ - (DJ A remix)
11. DJ A - track E

not DJ A playing two tracks of his out of 11, and/or playing too many different styles that don't match with the set that is being played.

maybe i'm just being overzealous about my favorite djs playing more of their songs because i want to hear them in the club when they are present.

demoted, i could listen to a full set of markus schulz only with no problems, lmao.

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