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Posted by Ministerio on Mar-17-2007 20:03:

Let me get this straight...

The pio cdj-1000 mk2 (MKII) does NOT support mp3 playback??

I just DL'ed 54 tracks off beatport, and burned them all as 320 kb/s mp3 files onto one cd each, and made a label for each one... took me a whole day..

54 cd's later..


Posted by i got big pants on Mar-17-2007 20:07:

only the mk3 has mp3 capabilities

the 800mk2 has mp3 as well


Posted by Ministerio on Mar-17-2007 20:10:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
only the mk3 has mp3 capabilities

the 800mk2 has mp3 as well


Yea I have the 800 mk23.

Sucks for me..


Posted by PlayerLac on Mar-17-2007 20:17:

Why did you burn them as mp3 if you were only gonna put 1 track per cd anyway? I would think the purpose of burning them as mp3 is to jam a whole bunch of tracks onto 1 cd. Doesn't make too much sense to burn 1 track per cd as an mp3 or am i missing something?


Posted by shuni on Mar-17-2007 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by PlayerLac
Why did you burn them as mp3 if you were only gonna put 1 track per cd anyway? I would think the purpose of burning them as mp3 is to jam a whole bunch of tracks onto 1 cd. Doesn't make too much sense to burn 1 track per cd as an mp3 or am i missing something?


cuz he's very extravagant


Posted by Xtracktor on Mar-17-2007 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by PlayerLac
Why did you burn them as mp3 if you were only gonna put 1 track per cd anyway? I would think the purpose of burning them as mp3 is to jam a whole bunch of tracks onto 1 cd. Doesn't make too much sense to burn 1 track per cd as an mp3 or am i missing something?


Yea, just burn them as audio tracks....might take one more day


Posted by tintin11 on Mar-17-2007 21:25:

tres pwned.


Posted by Ministerio on Mar-17-2007 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by shuni
cuz he's very extravagant


Lol...i did 5 songs per cd before and that was too much..and rather than making two copies... I find it easier to make one per cd.. incase i want to mix two songs on the same cd..

I was inspired by the organization thread in the sticky.

But I did burn them as 'audio cd's. Will that make a difference. Will the cdj-1000 mk2 play them since I have burned them as audio cds?


Posted by Allied Nations on Mar-17-2007 21:33:

Why didnt you just burn it in Audio format?

You are confusing yourself.


Posted by Ministerio on Mar-17-2007 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
Why didnt you just burn it in Audio format?

You are confusing yourself.


I did? I went to Nero..selected 'Burn Audio CD'

Put one mp3 track on the cd > burned it > slapped on a label > and put it in my binder.

I feel horrible now. But these are really the first 54 tunes of my 'cd collection' I mainly have vinyl an other cd assortments.

So I guess from now on I can just burn wav files onto the cds...and forget about the 54 tracks. (since they are really the 'start' of my cd collection, and ill probably end up having bought 1000's of tracks off beatport sooner or later.


Posted by skip on Mar-17-2007 22:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Ministerio
I did? I went to Nero..selected 'Burn Audio CD'

Put one mp3 track on the cd > burned it > slapped on a label > and put it in my binder.

I feel horrible now. But these are really the first 54 tunes of my 'cd collection' I mainly have vinyl an other cd assortments.

So I guess from now on I can just burn wav files onto the cds...and forget about the 54 tracks. (since they are really the 'start' of my cd collection, and ill probably end up having bought 1000's of tracks off beatport sooner or later.



wtf!? they will play fine on any cd-player if you burned them as audio cds and not as mp3 cds. there's no need to buy wavs because of that.


Posted by nefardec on Mar-17-2007 22:24:

have you played them on your cd players?

your process sounds fine...

when you burn an "audio cd" it converts the mp3 file to a wav anyways.


Posted by Ministerio on Mar-17-2007 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
wtf!? they will play fine on any cd-player if you burned them as audio cds and not as mp3 cds. there's no need to buy wavs because of that.


lmao....I was close to buying mysecond batch off beatport as wavs.

I guess Im not too technologically brilliant.

When I get my final CDJ 800 (MKI) decks...ill test them out in that..if they play them, then they should be fine i'm assuming.

But what I did exactly was went to Nero SmartStart>Make Audio CD

So then what's the point in buying wav's over 320 kb/s mp's if they can get converted to wav's in the end? Or is it just people who want top notch quality audiophile style?


Posted by on Mar-17-2007 22:50:

When Nero "converts" it to wav, it doesn't add anything to an mp3 file.. the quality will stay the same (320), its just the way that Nero writes the file to CD so a regular CD player can read it..

Most people will buy Wav's if they are playing out at clubs on high end loud systems. And others just like having the extra sound quality associated with wav's.


Posted by skip on Mar-17-2007 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Ministerio
lmao....I was close to buying mysecond batch off beatport as wavs.

I guess Im not too technologically brilliant.

When I get my final CDJ 800 (MKI) decks...ill test them out in that..if they play them, then they should be fine i'm assuming.

But what I did exactly was went to Nero SmartStart>Make Audio CD

So then what's the point in buying wav's over 320 kb/s mp's if they can get converted to wav's in the end? Or is it just people who want top notch quality audiophile style?



well the wavs have better sound quality (although most people won't notice a difference). if you convert an mp3 to wav though, the sound quality won't improve, but it will still be the same as the mp3.


Posted by Ministerio on Mar-17-2007 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
well the wavs have better sound quality (although most people won't notice a difference). if you convert an mp3 to wav though, the sound quality won't improve, but it will still be the same as the mp3.


Alright thanks mates! I know that you can't convert an mp3 into a wave and make it sound better. Just want to make sure that my cd's will be playable on all systems. I hope this is right, and I don't have to find out when I'm in a booth in front of 500 people.


Posted by Mmanu on Mar-18-2007 06:55:

Lol.

The obvious thing would have been : burn 1 cd, check the cd. Burn cd 2, check cd 2. Etc.

That kinda avoids unwanted surprises instead of burning a gazillion cds.
You should consider yourself lucky since it didn't happen prior to a gig


Posted by Mmanu on Mar-18-2007 07:06:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
if you convert an mp3 to wav though, the sound quality won't improve, but it will still be the same as the mp3.


False. Whether it is wav or Mp3, it is compressed. the frequency range stops at 18 KHz,for a 320 mp3 ; a 128 drops at 12 KHz.

If you change the format from mp3 to wave, it will be reformated and recompressed. In other words, compressed twice. So the reformated wav cannot sound as good as an original wav file. Worse, since the source frequency range has been slashed from 18 KHz, the sound quality will drop.


Posted by shuni on Mar-18-2007 07:22:

maybe the finalize cd after burn option wasn't checked.


Posted by Mmanu on Mar-18-2007 07:27:

maybe not.

read carefully.

Short version : the guy burned mp3 cds.
Pioneer 1000 MkII does not support mp3


Posted by Ministerio on Mar-18-2007 08:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Mmanu
Lol.

The obvious thing would have been : burn 1 cd, check the cd. Burn cd 2, check cd 2. Etc.

That kinda avoids unwanted surprises instead of burning a gazillion cds.
You should consider yourself lucky since it didn't happen prior to a gig


You dont understand..that is exactly what I did. But i have an 800 mk2, I can check all I want, doesnt mean it will work on OTHER cdjs..


Posted by Ministerio on Mar-18-2007 08:07:

quote:
Originally posted by shuni
maybe the finalize cd after burn option wasn't checked.
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I had to do that?

.........


Posted by Boinked on Mar-18-2007 08:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Mmanu
False. Whether it is wav or Mp3, it is compressed. the frequency range stops at 18 KHz,for a 320 mp3 ; a 128 drops at 12 KHz.

If you change the format from mp3 to wave, it will be reformated and recompressed. In other words, compressed twice. So the reformated wav cannot sound as good as an original wav file. Worse, since the source frequency range has been slashed from 18 KHz, the sound quality will drop.



I've always been told that wav files were lossless compression versus the lossy compression of mp3's, thus you would still get the same quality as the mp3 if you converted it to wav.

I could be wrong, but I've been covering this material in 2 different computer science classes right now.


Posted by Mmanu on Mar-18-2007 08:23:

If you compress sound, you lose sound. Every time. No compromises.

If you transform an mp3 back to wave, you've already lost all frequencies above 18 KHz at best.

lossless compression does not exist.


Posted by Mmanu on Mar-18-2007 08:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Ministerio
You dont understand..that is exactly what I did. But i have an 800 mk2, I can check all I want, doesnt mean it will work on OTHER cdjs..


Uh. yeah. burn audio CDs then ?


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