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Posted by Gauss on Mar-19-2007 22:31:

Tranceport

I haven't been actively listening to trance in months because I really don't like new trance so I've been exploring other genres...
From progressive house, tech house and breaks to techno and electro, from IDM, rhythmic noise and industrial to downtempo, ambient and such.

In last few months I've been actively listening to drum'n'bass and I simply can't get enough of it.
However, it is nice to go back to your roots from time to time, simply for the sake of nostalgy.

So I have decided to give Tranceport another listen... And boy, I gotta admit it was pure bliss.
Mixes like those will never get old and will become only better as the time passes by. Definately trance at it's best as far as I'm concerned.

Your thoughts?


Posted by Kakoroto on Mar-19-2007 23:05:

Haven't listened to Tranceport in probably 2 maybe 3 years. Im going to hold off on it a while longer before whippin it out again.


Posted by RapidFire on Mar-19-2007 23:10:

classic (much like all of his mix cds)


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Mar-19-2007 23:31:

it's the only Tranceport i enjoyed (i don't the progressive stuff that evolved into Transport)
I believe it's one of the 10 best mixed trance albums ever.
Oakie was a man once


Posted by DasBrotBesser on Mar-20-2007 03:14:

Ahhhh the mix that got me into it all

I still remember the moment exactly


Posted by spc on Mar-20-2007 04:28:

i was never too fond of tranceport that much, though i enjoyed basically all of his other cds from that era. i even enjoy his older mixes such as fluoro and his 94 goa essential mix. i would say 9 times out of 10 when i go to sleep i pop in an old oakey mix, which is probably the only time i listen to trance nowadays.


Posted by Perfecto Fluoro on Mar-20-2007 04:30:

Dream Traveler - Time

Makes you wanna play Wipeout for some reason...


Posted by Scolomon on Mar-20-2007 21:16:

you can hate on oakenfold now all you want, and i will be the next in line to trash him, but he used to be good, he used to have great taste in music and tranceport is evidence of that


Posted by Ishkur on Mar-21-2007 15:33:

That wasn't taste in music, that was the year's most popular 11 tracks put together, mixed by a beatmatching program and slapped Oakenfold's name on the cover.

In terms of marketing, it was awesome. In terms of DJing or music, it was abysmal. But it did do one thing really well: codefied the template by which all banal DJ mixes would follow--and have followed ever since.

The template that--hey, it doesn't matter how good you are or how long it took you to find those rare tunes anymore. The DJ is more important than the music now, so if you go out there and tell the ignorant mainstream masses you're one of the best, they'll believe it, because they don't have a standard of comparison to judge you by.


Posted by Orko on Mar-21-2007 16:40:

^^ haha I was waiting for that reply, as it is stated in every Tranceport thread.




Great compilation.


Posted by Perfecto Fluoro on Mar-21-2007 17:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
The template that--hey, it doesn't matter how good you are or how long it took you to find those rare tunes anymore. The DJ is more important than the music now, so if you go out there and tell the ignorant mainstream masses you're one of the best, they'll believe it, because they don't have a standard of comparison to judge you by.




Damn straight, and thats why I listen to whiney indie emo music now.


I ain't lying either, its far better than most any EDM out now and the stupid DJ culture that surrounds it.


Posted by Subtle on Mar-21-2007 17:14:

I am an Oakenfold fan, i love most his compilations, productions and remixes.
But i dont get whats so special with this CD, all tracks are considered classics and are featured on houndreds of compilations all together.

Compare this to other compilations like Magik, Forbidden Paradise or even In Trance We Trust, the difference is that none of the compilations above contains tracks that has been featured a dozen time each compilations worldwide, thats more classic in my opinion.

He didnt even feature a production of his own.


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Mar-21-2007 17:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
I am an Oakenfold fan, i love most his compilations, productions and remixes.
But i dont get whats so special with this CD, all tracks are considered classics and are featured on houndreds of compilations all together.

Compare this to other compilations like Magik, Forbidden Paradise or even In Trance We Trust, the difference is that none of the compilations above contains tracks that has been featured a dozen time each compilations worldwide, thats more classic in my opinion.

He didnt even feature a production of his own.


i'm pretty sure he made them classics by discovering them

and least, that's what i've understood that made this mix a "very important mix"


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Mar-21-2007 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
He didnt even feature a production of his own.

And you consider that a bad thing?


Posted by Subtle on Mar-21-2007 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
And you consider that a bad thing?
First of all, as Ishkur said, he paints himself on the cover and take all honour for the music. And that without having his own productions on it.

And second of all, he is one of my favorite producers,i know he is hated and disliked for the use of co-producers and 2 dodgy albums, but I can ignore that, cause most of the tracks and remixes stamped with his name has given me much aural pleasure.

A more important mix from him would be "A Voyage Into Trance". This mix just contains overplayed tunes from the late 90s.

Sure if it was the first mix i ever heard, i would be overly excited as well.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Mar-21-2007 17:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
First of all, as Ishkur said, he paints himself on the cover and take all honour for the music. And that without having his own productions on it.

Well, yeah, that is stupid.

You know what I'd like to see? A mix compilation with photos of all the featured producers on the cover, and the DJ's face is nowhere to be found.

But that'll never happen.


Posted by Perfecto Fluoro on Mar-21-2007 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
First of all, as Ishkur said, he paints himself on the cover and take all honour for the music. And that without having his own productions on it.

And second of all, he is one of my favorite producers,i know he is hated and disliked for the use of co-producers and 2 dodgy albums, but I can ignore that, cause most of the tracks and remixes stamped with his name has given me much aural pleasure.

A more important mix from him would be "A Voyage Into Trance". This mix just contains overplayed tunes from the late 90s.

Sure if it was the first mix i ever heard, i would be overly excited as well.



Well if you want to get technical, there is no Slacker And Original Vocal Mix of Someone, he had to combine them in studio.


Posted by Subtle on Mar-21-2007 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Perfecto Fluoro
Well if you want to get technical, there is no Slacker And Original Vocal Mix of Someone, he had to combine them in studio.
Nice, everything that brings Oakie in a better light is something i like to hear.


Posted by Perfecto Fluoro on Mar-21-2007 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
Nice, everything that brings Oakie in a better light is something i like to hear.



Oakenfold should be shunned now like the bastard child he is.

He is like the upstanding guy, but really he stabs you in the back in the end.


Posted by Ishkur on Mar-21-2007 18:46:

quote:
Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
i'm pretty sure he made them classics by discovering them


No, they were already famous hits and had been playing in clubland for awhile.

Really, the one glorious thing that Tranceport did was marketing. It was the first exposure for many, many people. It was the gateway drug. The beginner's primer. The first lesson. The registration signup sheet to a new world.

The problem wasn't that this mix attracted a new generation of noobs....it's that the noobs came in with the misunderstanding that it was Oakenfold they were listening to, not trance

And that is a very important distinction.


Posted by Subtle on Mar-21-2007 19:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
No, they were already famous hits and had been playing in clubland for awhile.

Really, the one glorious thing that Tranceport did was marketing. It was the first exposure for many, many people. It was the gateway drug. The beginner's primer. The first lesson. The registration signup sheet to a new world.

The problem wasn't that this mix attracted a new generation of noobs....it's that the noobs came in with the misunderstanding that it was Oakenfold they were listening to, not trance

And that is a very important distinction.
Totally understand what you say, but isnt it possible, thats the only way to get them to listen to music ?

I mean, most popular music is based on image and persons, like we see in the pop industry.

Im only saying, that marketing it that way was the only way for people who didnt understand the music, to actually go grab it and listen to it, instead of the need to discovering with pale covers.


Posted by Perfecto Fluoro on Mar-21-2007 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
Totally understand what you say, but isnt it possible, thats the only way to get them to listen to music ?

I mean, most popular music is based on image and persons, like we see in the pop industry.

Im only saying, that marketing it that way was the only way for people who didnt understand the music, to actually go grab it and listen to it, instead of the need to discovering with pale covers.


Yea, but that inspires DJ worship. DJ's should not be worshiped.

I'd rather have no one listen to trance at all then have the DJ's be the ones taking all the credit.


Posted by nefardec on Mar-21-2007 19:25:

quote:
Totally understand what you say, but isnt it possible, thats the only way to get them to listen to music ?


No.

A better way to get someone into electronic music, is to bring them to a ridiculous party where they hear sounds and see sights that they never dreamed existed, so intense they just get sucked into it.

When DJs pander to a broader audience to inspire "listenership", especially, but not limited to marketing themselves, that degrades the whole culture.


Dance music is dance music not 'listening music'.

EDIT
whenever i get out to a big dj event, what I witness is not mass dancing, but mass listening, just another concert you know? It's just a bunch of people who don't even think about dancing who bring their digital cameras, cell phones, armin shirts, and stand there and pump their arms when the dj tells them to. And I think this is directly related to things like compilations that market DJ identities rather than push a new sound, and radio shows that do the same.


Posted by Subtle on Mar-21-2007 19:37:

I see what your saying, but the fact remains.. the labels has to do what they need to market their music to the most people as possible, sure, DJ Worshiping is stupid.. but unfortunately, its the way it is.. and has to be for the labels to milk out what they can.

But mixes with just artwork and no DJ pictures is more class, and there used to be alot of those.


Posted by Ishkur on Mar-21-2007 22:17:

Funny....labels never needed anything of the sort before, and electronic music existed quite comfortably without the inane trappings of album-oriented pop music, marketing, and diluted, banal, mainstream celebrity-DJ hype.


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