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delay with stereo spread ?

just noticed on PVD - Crush the vocal delay has like an auto panning/stereo affect on it. or could be automation. anyone recommend some fancy delay vsts?

Try vascillator (sp?) perhaps, I think its by audio bugs or something like that. Alternatively you could always just go with teh method he probably used and run a totally wet delay channel as a send (or even seperate chanel...) then whack an auto pan on that... Probably a quicker option by the time you've tracked down ur VST and downloaded or bought it..

Yeah just create a fx channel with a good delay and autopanner then you could draw automation if you wish e.g. to speed up / slow down the pan effect before breakdowns.

A ducked delay could be good and would help keep vocals free from the effect until finished then it could raise up in the volume. Leaving you free to add another send to a clean delay / reverb without pan on it.

its not just an auto pan tho its like a surroound sound delay and it gets farther apart with each echo. doesnt rly sound automated, but def could be.

its not just an auto pan tho its like a surroound sound delay and it gets farther apart with each echo. doesnt rly sound automated, but def could be.

its not just an auto pan tho its like a surroound sound delay and it gets farther apart with each echo. doesnt rly sound automated, but def could be.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja its not just an auto pan tho its like a surroound sound delay

the song was in 5.1?

you mean ping-pong delay?

Its called gravity, each delay takes longer than the one preceding it.
So we're looking at a (ping pong or auto panned) ducking delay with a gravity setting as well. Have fun trying to set that up.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Its called gravity, each delay takes longer than the one preceding it. So we're looking at a (ping pong or auto panned) ducking delay with a gravity setting as well. Have fun trying to set that up.

you mean like pitched down ping pong delay?

No not pitched down (although that would be an awesome addition to this list of delay FX lol) but it takes longer for each delay to start... Hard to explain, but I guess if the first delay started after a 16th the next one after that would start after an 8th maybe, or something like that. So you get the "hit" >> 16th echo >> then after a full 8th you get another echo and so on. Sry if thats confusing. I think gravity may sometimes refer to a lower pitch with each delay as well... maybe...

Might have used Native Instruments Spektral Delay? Not used ut myself but I know it has a massive amount of customisation including modulation of various parameters which could also mean delay time set to a bpm e.g. so may cycle from 32 to 1/1??

Or a spatializer tagged onto a panned delay??http://www.gersic.com/plugins/index.php?daCat=11

Try chaining various fx and even take a send from the fx channel into anoteh channel and really chain some together??

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Originally posted by kitphillips No not pitched down (although that would be an awesome addition to this list of delay FX lol) but it takes longer for each delay to start...

ahhh i got it now. you can do that by hand just playing the notes at the right time in a different channel with different volume levels maybe others effects on it also.

You can get the "delay starting later and later" effect by automating the delay time.

In general modulation sweeps in delay time create great effects.

Automation wouldn't give the same effect as gravity, neither would having multiple tracks playing the same thing. Both of them are cool effects, but they do not give the same effect as a gravity setting.

The only thing I can think of with this setting on it off the top of my head is battery 3. See if you can get your hands on that to show you what I mean. There might be a similar setting in the psyche delay in fm8 as well, I can't remember.
I've seen gravity other places as well, but I can't remember where... Come to think of it though, it seems more like an effect that needs to be implemented in midi, so perhaps its actually not whats happening in this track, after all most vocalists don't sing in midi... what's being described sounds like gravity though, a delay which gets further apart with each echo , I don't know how you could do that in audio, except maybe by drawing in the automation really carefully.

i'm surprised no one on here has talked about this before.......especially for lead synths.its used quite a bit..

maybe pvd didn't do automation and instead sliced up the audio in something like soundforge and created the delays on his own?

this is easy:

http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=273

The waves supertap allows you to adjust pan / level of each delay. pretty cake. i'm sure he used this or something similar.

Good find! Now all I have to do is afford it lol!

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Originally posted by flutlicht junky Good find! Now all I have to do is afford it lol!

You've got to pay to play brotha. I have this plug and I love it. I set up 4-5 on different busses all with different types of delay effects. If i want a sound to do whatever effect, i just adjust the appropriate send. easy!

Just save up and get one of the bundles (best deal). You won't find any artist profile anywhere that doesn't at least have the WAVES Gold bundle .

anyone know of something similar to supertap but for Mac??

Dude... thats an audio unit too... I run it on my mac.

When you buy the 'native' version you get VST/AU/MAS/RTAS

ah cool

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Originally posted by dj_palm advanced reverb in reason can do that, cant wait to find something similar for vst.

What patch is that mate?

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