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Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Mar-22-2007 02:18:

Secondhand smoke

When parents smoke indoors around their kids, is it a form of child abuse?


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Mar-22-2007 02:24:

Of course it is - Morally, ethically, technically and literally.


Posted by RJT on Mar-22-2007 02:28:

Indeed - And parents like those should be executed via suffocation.


Posted by Frenchie on Mar-22-2007 02:28:

It's wrong in any way shape or form.

Luckily my mother never smoked, at all.


Posted by Omega_M on Mar-22-2007 02:28:

maybe not legally.


Posted by l�cid on Mar-22-2007 02:47:

all the kids i grew up with who had smoker parents that smoked in the house were SOOOO adamant about never becoming smokers... so i guess it could be good, in a way.

but yeah, it's fucked up... i feel bad even smoking around my cat!


Posted by Allied Nations on Mar-22-2007 02:50:

My dad smoked when we were kids, but never in the house... he wasn't even "allowed" to smoke According to mom... but by end of high school id havre a smoke with my parents, they were super light smokers and it was no big deal. meh


Posted by RJT on Mar-22-2007 02:50:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
but yeah, it's fucked up... i feel bad even smoking around RJT!


Too right you do


Posted by Rinster on Mar-22-2007 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
all the kids i grew up with who had smoker parents that smoked in the house were SOOOO adamant about never becoming smokers... so i guess it could be good, in a way.


my parents have always smoked untill 3 years ago.. i was so sick of it as a child, that yes ive decided to never smoke.



















































unless someone offers me a nice joint. then i cant refuse.


Posted by l�cid on Mar-22-2007 02:53:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Too right you do

*blows a huge bong rip right in your stupid little face*


Posted by RJT on Mar-22-2007 02:55:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
*blows a huge bong rip right in your stupid little face*




Posted by Frenchie on Mar-22-2007 02:56:

So the more smoke rings, the more you love him?


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Mar-22-2007 02:57:

My old man had smoked for 20+ years before I was born. For the first few months that I was making my mark on the world he would go outside for a cheeky puff. After 8 or 9 months of me being alive though he'd managed to quit. I must have threatened to deck him or something?

In all seriousness fair play to the guy.


Posted by tubularbills on Mar-22-2007 03:06:

kinda reminds me of that commerical for anti-smoking where the baby was in the backseat crying as the parent smoked in the front seat. ugh. gross.


Posted by Ian on Mar-22-2007 11:42:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
all the kids i grew up with who had smoker parents that smoked in the house were SOOOO adamant about never becoming smokers... so i guess it could be good, in a way.


that's my case, my mum used to smoke about 20 a day & it was a gross smell, it stank everywhere & I hated it so much. In the end she had a health scare which did enough in the fact it made her book her ideas up & she stopped about 12 years ago now. Fresh air is so much nicer. Some ignorant couple were smoking in a restaurant in spain and my brother managed to sneeze & in doing so tip a pint over her dress. 1-0 to the good guys.


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Mar-22-2007 12:53:

I'm an on/off smoker I've always had to smoke in Garden unless it was severly p*ssing it down with rain, then I'd be able to stand by the backdoors. My Dad used to smoke but my Mum hates smoking she made everyone go outside.

quote:
Some ignorant couple were smoking in a restaurant in spain and my brother managed to sneeze & in doing so tip a pint over her dress. 1-0 to the good guys.


Good. That's rude even when I was a heavy smoker I'd go outside for smoke. There is nothing worse the some chav's dressed in their sunday best smoking their cheap scabby two bob Trampbert & Butler cigarettes in a restaurant whilst people are trying to eat.


Posted by Allied Nations on Mar-22-2007 13:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Some ignorant couple were smoking in a restaurant in spain and my brother managed to sneeze & in doing so tip a pint over her dress. 1-0 to the good guys.




Fight the power, lol. If the restuarant allows smoking, and you don't like it, go somewhere else instead of pulling that tourist bullshit.


Posted by Ian on Mar-22-2007 14:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations


Fight the power, lol. If the restuarant allows smoking, and you don't like it, go somewhere else instead of pulling that tourist bullshit.


they were tourists too, and it was rude because numerous tables were eating. As calla said, it's courtesy to go outside, or at least seen that way by the majority of people i've come across in europe. They wouldn't like it if I found some sort of disgusting habit to do while they were eating.


Posted by jdat on Mar-22-2007 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
they were tourists too, and it was rude because numerous tables were eating. As calla said, it's courtesy to go outside, or at least seen that way by the majority of people i've come across in europe. They wouldn't like it if I found some sort of disgusting habit to do while they were eating.



wanna know what pisses me off?

Smokers bitching when someone lights a cigar!

Oh no no please turn that off .... and the cigar smoker is like WTF you have been smoking in my face for the last hour and I can't enjoy a quality cigar?

Hypocrites


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-22-2007 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
all the kids i grew up with who had smoker parents that smoked in the house were SOOOO adamant about never becoming smokers... so i guess it could be good, in a way.

but yeah, it's fucked up... i feel bad even smoking around my cat!
ya same here, well only 1 guys parents smoked that i knew, and he hated the smell....

they were careful ands moked outside.. but he said he could smell it and he would never smoke...


Posted by Ian on Mar-22-2007 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
Hypocrites



Precisely. My uncle smokes the odd cigar & the smell bothers me way less than cigarettes do. The funny thing about this couple is they must've gone through about 3 in a row each, and they always hold them towards other people, blowing the smoke away from their area.


Posted by Allied Nations on Mar-22-2007 15:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
they were tourists too, and it was rude because numerous tables were eating. As calla said, it's courtesy to go outside, or at least seen that way by the majority of people i've come across in europe. They wouldn't like it if I found some sort of disgusting habit to do while they were eating.


So? It's a public restaurant that apparently allows smoking. The laws in Spain are very simple if it's the same as the last time I was there, venues are either smoking or non smoking and if it's a smoking venue and you don't like it, get out.

Shit, I'd have done the same thing if smoking was allowed inside. What am I supposed to do? Ask everyone of they've finished? Please.


Posted by Ian on Mar-22-2007 15:39:

there were no signs about it being smoking or non-smoking, which under the laws there should've been, but everyone was eating before these people came in, and even the staff & other customers went and sat outside to smoke. What are you meant to do if halfway through a meal, just put up with people blowing smoke towards your food, or cunningly piss them off? Eye for an eye.


Posted by Allied Nations on Mar-22-2007 15:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
there were no signs about it being smoking or non-smoking, which under the laws there should've been, but everyone was eating before these people came in, and even the staff & other customers went and sat outside to smoke. What are you meant to do if halfway through a meal, just put up with people blowing smoke towards your food, or cunningly piss them off? Eye for an eye.


Whatever, lol.


Posted by jdat on Mar-22-2007 15:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
there were no signs about it being smoking or non-smoking, which under the laws there should've been, but everyone was eating before these people came in, and even the staff & other customers went and sat outside to smoke. What are you meant to do if halfway through a meal, just put up with people blowing smoke towards your food, or cunningly piss them off? Eye for an eye.



well sure the signs smoking or non thing is a bit unclear but if you're allowed to smoke well I don't see why customers should b*tch


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