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Posted by David Adams on Mar-24-2007 02:50:

Hooking Virus TI up.....

I have been all software until now so I'm really new (about a 3 hour veteran now). How are you guys connecting the TI to your PC?

I have it connected via USB exclusively now and I can get it to work, but I hear pops and such every once and a while. Should I connect it up via SPDIF to my Audigy 2 soundcard? Should I connect my amp for my monitors to an analog out? I'm really really confused here.

Also, what does using the TI as an audio device do for me? Pros/cons? I tried making it the primary audio device and listened to some MP3s and such and they sounded really garbled. I thought it might be able to completely replace my internal sound card....

Really really confused here.....

Adam


Posted by Subtle on Mar-24-2007 02:55:

Why don`t you mail it to me, and ill take a look at it


Posted by Eldritch on Mar-24-2007 03:50:

Re: Hooking Virus TI up.....

quote:
Originally posted by David Adams
I have been all software until now so I'm really new (about a 3 hour veteran now). How are you guys connecting the TI to your PC?

I have it connected via USB exclusively now and I can get it to work, but I hear pops and such every once and a while. Should I connect it up via SPDIF to my Audigy 2 soundcard? Should I connect my amp for my monitors to an analog out? I'm really really confused here.

Also, what does using the TI as an audio device do for me? Pros/cons? I tried making it the primary audio device and listened to some MP3s and such and they sounded really garbled. I thought it might be able to completely replace my internal sound card....

Really really confused here.....

Adam


I run mine through S/PDIF, Virus Control is great and all but I can't figure out how to use it when you want more than two stereo channels. It seems you have to bounce to audio and then unload it to load a new instance, but then you lose all the settings in the plugin. It's too much trouble IMO. It's easier to just use midi + analog or S/PDIF and then record each track individually.

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
Why don`t you mail it to me, and ill take a look at it



Posted by David Adams on Mar-24-2007 04:21:

Has anyone had any luck using the USB connection for audio?


Posted by Subtle on Mar-24-2007 05:07:

Re: Re: Hooking Virus TI up.....

quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch
It's easier to just use midi + analog or S/PDIF and then record each track individually.
So what you are saying, is that its easier to use this baby the old fashioned way ? im drooling at this synth simply because of the USB Total Intergration thing, but if thats hard to use, I`ll rather buy and older model.


Posted by mysticalninja on Mar-24-2007 05:51:

what sequencer are you using? on ableton its crazy hard to use because of the way its routing works, but on cubase and fl its just like any other vsti.


Posted by David Adams on Mar-24-2007 06:56:

quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
what sequencer are you using? on ableton its crazy hard to use because of the way its routing works, but on cubase and fl its just like any other vsti.


I'm using Sonar 6 Studio

I might have to pony up some money for Cubase 4.....


Posted by mysticalninja on Mar-24-2007 07:18:

it probably wont make crack/pops go away. a dedicated usb carb will probably do that. whats your buffer size? do you use virus ti asio driver or your soundcards?


Posted by G-Con on Mar-24-2007 12:35:

quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
what sequencer are you using? on ableton its crazy hard to use because of the way its routing works, but on cubase and fl its just like any other vsti.


in what way is it crazy hard to setup in ableton. I'm thinkig of getting a ti in the future. I intended to connect it via usb and i have ableton 5. Will i not be able to do this?


Posted by Agenz on Mar-24-2007 14:47:

The Virus TI only has 2 Stereo outs when working with your chosen seq.

This is because it's audio is going over the USB. You can not get more than 2 Stereo outs when using Virus Control. You can bounce things down as prev mentioned.

You say you hear pops/clicks/etc. Have you tried to increase your buffer size on your s/card? What is your buffer size?

I use my Virus as my s/card. Output 1 is going straight to my mixer (L/R). It also has the option of input as well which I use to record my Korg Micro X.

A


Posted by David Adams on Mar-24-2007 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Agenz
The Virus TI only has 2 Stereo outs when working with your chosen seq.

This is because it's audio is going over the USB. You can not get more than 2 Stereo outs when using Virus Control. You can bounce things down as prev mentioned.

You say you hear pops/clicks/etc. Have you tried to increase your buffer size on your s/card? What is your buffer size?

I use my Virus as my s/card. Output 1 is going straight to my mixer (L/R). It also has the option of input as well which I use to record my Korg Micro X.

A


Sonar won't let me bounce the audio from the Virus TI. I can control the Virus via Sonar with the VST plugin. I've decided to connect the Virus' S/PDIF connectors to my Audigy 2's digital connection, but the audio sounds horrible right now that way. Any suggestions there?


Posted by Agenz on Mar-26-2007 01:17:

quote:
Originally posted by David Adams
Sonar won't let me bounce the audio from the Virus TI. I can control the Virus via Sonar with the VST plugin. I've decided to connect the Virus' S/PDIF connectors to my Audigy 2's digital connection, but the audio sounds horrible right now that way. Any suggestions there?


I only know how to set it up the way I have it. Sorry mate.


Posted by Existo22 on Mar-26-2007 04:33:

Re: Hooking Virus TI up.....

quote:
Originally posted by David Adams
I have been all software until now so I'm really new (about a 3 hour veteran now). How are you guys connecting the TI to your PC?

I have it connected via USB exclusively now and I can get it to work, but I hear pops and such every once and a while. Should I connect it up via SPDIF to my Audigy 2 soundcard? Should I connect my amp for my monitors to an analog out? I'm really really confused here.

Also, what does using the TI as an audio device do for me? Pros/cons? I tried making it the primary audio device and listened to some MP3s and such and they sounded really garbled. I thought it might be able to completely replace my internal sound card....

Really really confused here.....

Adam


Call the place you bought it from and tell them whatsup ''I bought a virus TI from you, help me connect it.''
I tell you straight they betta be willing to help you after all the money you gave them!


Posted by CReddick on Mar-26-2007 10:26:

Make sure you're connecting the TI directly to a USB 2.0 port on your computer, and not running it through a hub.

I personally wouldn't use the TI as a sound device. I'd rather utilize the 4 channels of USB audio as outputs back into my Logic environment. When i want to bounce a track to disc, i record via the S/PDIF connection (you get 24 bit that way).

I would invest in an inexpensive USB/FW audio interface maybe from M-Audio or something.

If you need more help, I'd suggest hitting VirusTI.com


Posted by David Adams on Mar-27-2007 01:44:

I got it figured out now... Thanks for all the feedback, guys!!!

Here is a quick physical connection diagram I threw together real quick. Hopefully, it will help others in the future.

CReddick, I'm doing EXACTLY what you suggested....

When I play and record MIDI input from my controller, I use the Virus TI's USB audio because its delay compensated and works perfectly with other VST instruments within Sonar 6. However, since I can't bounce that to audio, I'm using the S/PDIF to record the audio from the Virus. There is a delay when recording the audio via S/PDIF, so I just simply nudge the audio over so that its in perfect sync with my other VSTs.

If all I'm using is the Virus, there is no need to nudge it over because they all have the same delay.



Posted by CReddick on Mar-27-2007 02:02:

quote:
Originally posted by David Adams
If all I'm using is the Virus, there is no need to nudge it over because they all have the same delay.


Strange... I don't experience any delay when recording via SPDIF to the sequence in Logic.

Otherwise.. setup looks good!



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