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Posted by SPACEMASTERS on Mar-24-2007 18:00:

Review PvD @ Space

Lets just say Edgar V as always brought it out pretty good for PvD to start. PvD came in like a different PvD than in his past shows. He started off so good that I thought it would be just like his last time he was there. Boy I was wrong after at some point I got soooooooooo bored I yawned for close than 2 hours. Evertyhing was so weird about this time he came with some much energy, but everything and his music as well was off. He was using the horn at the wrong time and alot, the sirens were off just like some shitty tunes he played. I literally waited for like 2 hours for Torrent. When he did, right after the set calmed again


I am utterly disappointed at this WMC, from the SvD show, to the disaster at the Subliminal Party to last night at Space, I was so tired to catch bored I didnt have energy nor any desire after PvD to catch Sander K. LAst night I saw Jet Li, Jackie Chang, Lui Kang. I felt like crobar New York. He actually played 4 hrs which is something different, ended the set with Filo & Peri - The Anthem.

Set OF the Night GOes to Mr. V!!!!!

That tune that must be a Higher State Of Consciousness Remix is awsome!!!!


Posted by ambs on Mar-24-2007 18:05:

Re: Review PvD @ Space

quote:
Originally posted by SPACEMASTERS
I am utterly disappointed at this WMC


that's cause you're an idiot. Armin yesterday > everything else

and u must've been at a different sander van doorn set than everyone else that was at that party


Posted by DarkAngel on Mar-24-2007 18:05:


Posted by SPACEMASTERS on Mar-24-2007 18:08:

Re: Re: Review PvD @ Space

quote:
Originally posted by ambs

and u must've been at a different sander van doorn set than everyone else that was at that party


Actually it wasnt his set, it was that sound system. It was horrible. It made everything seem less fun. The speakers must have been from 1997....


Posted by dj douglas on Mar-24-2007 18:09:

Re: Review PvD @ Space

quote:
Originally posted by SPACEMASTERS
Lets just say Edgar V as always brought it out pretty good for PvD to start. PvD came in like a different PvD than in his past shows. He started off so good that I thought it would be just like his last time he was there. Boy I was wrong after at some point I got soooooooooo bored I yawned for close than 2 hours. Evertyhing was so weird about this time he came with some much energy, but everything and his music as well was off. He was using the horn at the wrong time and alot, the sirens were off just like some shitty tunes he played. I literally waited for like 2 hours for Torrent. When he did, right after the set calmed again


I am utterly disappointed at this WMC, from the SvD show, to the disaster at the Subliminal Party to last night at Space, I was so tired to catch bored I didnt have energy nor any desire after PvD to catch Sander K. LAst night I saw Jet Li, Jackie Chang, Lui Kang. I felt like crobar New York. He actually played 4 hrs which is something different, ended the set with Filo & Peri - The Anthem.

Set OF the Night GOes to Mr. V!!!!!

That tune that must be a Higher State Of Consciousness Remix is awsome!!!!




dam that sux man! i knew he was gonna spin like that..what was my clue? well its in the line up. Told ya Ivan, lol


dam u saw lui kang! lmfao


Posted by DarkAngel on Mar-24-2007 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by SPACEMASTERS
Actually it wasnt his set, it was that sound system. It was horrible. It made everything seem less fun. The speakers must have been from 1997....



quote:
Originally posted by SPACEMASTERS
I am utterly disappointed at this WMC, from the SvD show



May wanna clarify that next time. And everyone I've talked to about SvD all said the same thing: he rocked it.

quote:
Originally posted by ambs
that's cause you're an idiot.



Posted by av1 on Mar-24-2007 20:29:

Re: Review PvD @ Space

quote:
Originally posted by SPACEMASTERS
I am utterly disappointed at this WMC, from the SvD show, to the disaster at the Subliminal Party to last night at Space, I was so tired to catch bored I didnt have energy nor any desire after PvD to catch Sander K. LAst night I saw Jet Li, Jackie Chang, Lui Kang. I felt like crobar New York.


You must be having a really bad WMC to say SVD sucked, because I do not think so, everyone from househeads to tranceheads have said he was great to incredible to a life-altering experience. Subliminal it rained, big deal it's WMC, and don't you like your chicks wet?

As for the PF Changs crowd, agreed 100%. But I have no issues with that population and they are supporting trance big time, so who cares.

As for the night let me first say the rumors of Space's disorgnaization, mob scenes at the door, long waits, etc were all BS. Got there @ 12 and got right in. The door was very smooth with no mob scenes at all, which probably had something to do with the 2 fire marshals at the door. The club was not packed at all at that time, by 12:30 the crowd had almost doubled and by 1 it was packed enough that I got worried. (although thank God it never got unbearable).

Edgar V's opening set was pretty good, a lot of chunky house. Proper Education and Josh Wink's Higher State of Consciousness (sick remix for sure I agree) stand out. He played good drinking music until 2, I took advantage, and then PVD took over.

PVD played for 4 hours, and I would say the set was not up to the standards of his November mainroom and June terrace sets. But to say he was horrible is crazy. I would say it was good, just not mind-numbing or anything like the last 2 times when he relentlessly mind-fucked everyone.

Luckily I partied my ass off and had a great time anyways, and nothing about the set hindered that one bit. He did play more house than I wanted to hear, using a lot of hard house for fillers as opposed to the hard trance/tech trance I prefer he use 100% of the time, but I guess that comes with the 4 hour set. I would say it was 80% trance, 20% house, no biggie there. PVD did have a shit load of energy in the booth, I have never seen him so animated, jumping around doing hobit skips and so much shit I thought he was Ferry Corsten for a second there. If only he could have channeled more of that energy into buidling up his set maybe it would have been better.

Overall a good night and good sets by both DJs, yet nothing mindblowing IMO.


Posted by epdarks on Mar-24-2007 20:31:

So who cought Sander?


Posted by av1 on Mar-24-2007 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by epdarks
So who cought Sander?


I cannot review him because I only caught a little bit of his set (30 minutes or so) b4 exhaustion hit. But he was playing really good, and I heard from very reliable sources that he stole the show @ Ultra last night.


Posted by Dream Beamz on Mar-25-2007 10:13:

edgar v was awesome from 11 - 1am . when paul got on he was great for the first two hours and then I myself will have to say he sucked for most of the remaining two hours. the 10 mins i heard from Oscar G was blechhhhhhhh

I was on the terrace from 6:15 to 10:30 and it was fantastic. Very little humidity, and just the right temp. Sander K was throwing down the most flawless techy house set. I left at 10:30 as I was done for the night

more detailed review later, i had to drive back to charlotte for an emergency


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Mar-25-2007 16:07:

I am SO GLAD to hear SM finally say Edgar > PvD!!!!!!!!!!!






Edgar can top any mainroom act.. ANYDAY!

never seen PvD during WMC except for the closing sets @ Ultra.


Posted by gimmebeatz on Mar-25-2007 19:55:

personally i thought the entire nite on the whole was amazing. edgar v never disappoints when opening for PVD. as for PVD, ithought his set was great. played a ton of great tracks and kept it banging the entire time like u would expect. no complaints here...another great PVD WMC experience.


Posted by Dream Beamz on Mar-26-2007 17:14:

Here is my official review.

I got to space rather early to avoid any kind of line fiasco since this was a sold out event.

Space staff actually turned people around who did not have tickets. They said no entry whatsoever unless you had a presale. This kinda ruined the vibe for the first part of Edgar Vs set since it took a bit to fill up the club since only presale entrys were being allowed in.

I for the first time agreed with the staff at space in a long time. I have never seen a bouncer turn someone away offering a grand to get two people in until this night. Peoples only option at this point was to team up with people they didnt know and go in on a vip table.

I got in right when they opened the doors at 10:45. They were having problems with their generator so could not get people in the door using their credit card scanning device for people with will call tickets. Edgar V played an extremely nice warm up set and then some. It actually had to be the best Edgar set I had ever heard and for this I give him the set of the night. His set was extremely progressive and included some good techy stuff. Since I am saying exactly how I felt and I am giving a good review I will say that his set lost some energy between 1 and 2am. I am guessing this was from him not even knowing when Paul would get there. The club has a nice addition, LED boards fully programmed into their lighting system. These are dimmable and produced 7 extremely bright colors. These were a nice touch to space. The sound system was also well tuned.

Paul got on at 2:10am and started off extremely banging. I honestly was so banging in the beginning I thought it was going to be better than November 4th 2005. Paul has really gotten comfortable with Ableton and has a ton of wikkid bass line and beat loops. The tracks were extremely strong and energetic.

The crowd kinda died off due to a couple of things halfway through his set. The terrace fiasco being one. Everyone realizing they probably would not get into the terrace if they didnt try at that point. Paul also went into a much slower BPM and more housey track selection. Things like Mindcircus G&D remix. This kills the space crowd. It worked in NYC when he played last month but I could have told him it wouldnt work at space. None the less it happened. It seemed that most of the people in the mainroom loved the cheesy crap and he played two of his crappy classics to include Nothing but you (blechhhhhh). Whatever good he did was ruined in his last hour or two. I can understand the moving to the slower side during the middle of his set as it is what he does for his extended sets but to continue off it with crap cheese trance was unacceptable. I can say this, the first two hours was phenomenal, it really seemed like he made the bassline loops specifically for space. He even tried to use them on the cheesy crap but it was of no use to me. He had many many different ones though. The sound also was turned down during the middle of his set, I think because the firemarshall was there but later on the sound was resumed at its normal level.

When he got off at 6:15 I immediately made a mad dash for the stairs to get to the terrace. After waiting in line for a little while I decided it was be in my best interest to grease a bouncer. I offered up a small amount of money and got right on up. I normally dont promote this but Oscar Gs set was more minimal than the house I hear in Charlotte, I could not take it any more.

Apparently the situation at the front entrance had taken a turn for the worse and the presale line was the same as the general admission line. People had to end up waiting or paying a lot of money to get in.

Up on the Terrace things were happening as expected. People in a steady groove, dancing and having fun. The music was good, nothing extremely memorable but definitely good and on point. I dont think I heard Sander slip once on the decks for the 4 hours I listened to him. The crowd seemed to be in a good mood too because I didnt notice any fights break out. The upstairs appeared to be at capacity the entire time I was up there.

Pictures






Videos can be found here
There should be 15 videos total and they are still uploading now so if you do not see them all, check back
http://dreambeamz.com/pvdwmcspace/


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Mar-26-2007 17:43:

damn i wish i made it to that terrace set....totally my type of music and crowd...

oh how i miss sander fucking k


Posted by FallingMoon on Mar-27-2007 04:21:

IMO

A lot of people fail to realize that PvD is done! WOW

it's like beating a dead horse...you keep going to see him because he's PvD and thinking he MIGHT bring it better than last time or w.e

fact is PvD isn't the same anymore and he won't be for that matter.

The last GREAT time I had @ a PvD event was November 2005 which was right after he won #1 DJ for the first time...after that show I was amazed and knew why he was my #1...after he came to Spirits in Jan 06 was by far the worst show I've ever seen. Then came WMC 06 which wasn't that much better, a bit better towards the end but it took him 2 hours to build into the set.

He came twice after last years WMC and I didn't even make the effort to go and that wasn't like me because I used to get so excited when I knew PvD was coming into town.

Some people think that because he plays a few IDs or good tracks that he "brings it" yeah w/e. Brining a good show has a lot more to it then a FEW good tunes.

After winning #1 it was the beginning of the end for him.

and frankly the worst part was how RIDICULOUS the price of this years show...all sold out and from what I heard no door tix were even being sold...that was never heard of.

So many cons that I can say that I'd never see PvD again here in Miami unless it's non WMC and I'm bored.

I've seen another DJ that has taken his spotlight and isn't even that well known.

RIP PVD


Posted by vtec junkie on Mar-27-2007 04:27:

I don't get it....PVD is always good in NYC....how come he always sucks in Miami??? Well at least during the conference. I was not there but past few years he never impressed me in Miami.


Posted by Swamper on Mar-27-2007 05:14:

I thought PvD was good until about 4AM...

...mind you, I haven't heard him live since June 2004 (he hasn't come to Toronto since) so I can't really complain.


Posted by ClubGoddess on Mar-27-2007 14:50:

I know I wasn't there this year so I dont know how he played..maybe if someone posted a tracklisting??

I've seen him at WMC in 04 and 05. Boths sets were awesome I thought. Every time I've seen him in Miami were great too. I don't understand??


Posted by teckniqueZ on Mar-27-2007 16:14:

PVD is the worst!!If he keeps dropping the same shit then he's going to die a slow death as we are seeing now.I couldnt wait to walk upstairs for Sander to hear a real dj spin.I used to love PVD like three years ago but F##K he is spinning the same set that he did 3 years ago.And Mr.V needs to be the headliner with PVD opening to put people to sleep and show us the same tracks that he has been spinning for years,because we havent herd them before.


Posted by FallingMoon on Mar-27-2007 16:15:

quote:
Originally posted by teckniqueZ
PVD is the worst!!If he keeps dropping the same shit then he's going to die a slow death as we are seeing now.I couldnt wait to walk upstairs for Sander to hear a real dj spin.I used to love PVD like three years ago but F##K he is spinning the same set that he did 3 years ago.And Mr.V needs to be the headliner with PVD opening to put people to sleep and show us the same tracks that he has been spinning for years,because we havent herd them before.


Dude let me just say this is the best post I've seen from you!!

jk but for real props cuz I agree 110%


Posted by dj douglas on Mar-27-2007 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Dream Beamz
Here is my official review.

I got to space rather early to avoid any kind of line fiasco since this was a sold out event.

Space staff actually turned people around who did not have tickets. They said no entry whatsoever unless you had a presale. This kinda ruined the vibe for the first part of Edgar Vs set since it took a bit to fill up the club since only presale entrys were being allowed in.

I for the first time agreed with the staff at space in a long time. I have never seen a bouncer turn someone away offering a grand to get two people in until this night. Peoples only option at this point was to team up with people they didnt know and go in on a vip table.

I got in right when they opened the doors at 10:45. They were having problems with their generator so could not get people in the door using their credit card scanning device for people with will call tickets. Edgar V played an extremely nice warm up set and then some. It actually had to be the best Edgar set I had ever heard and for this I give him the set of the night. His set was extremely progressive and included some good techy stuff. Since I am saying exactly how I felt and I am giving a good review I will say that his set lost some energy between 1 and 2am. I am guessing this was from him not even knowing when Paul would get there. The club has a nice addition, LED boards fully programmed into their lighting system. These are dimmable and produced 7 extremely bright colors. These were a nice touch to space. The sound system was also well tuned.

Paul got on at 2:10am and started off extremely banging. I honestly was so banging in the beginning I thought it was going to be better than November 4th 2005. Paul has really gotten comfortable with Ableton and has a ton of wikkid bass line and beat loops. The tracks were extremely strong and energetic.

The crowd kinda died off due to a couple of things halfway through his set. The terrace fiasco being one. Everyone realizing they probably would not get into the terrace if they didnt try at that point. Paul also went into a much slower BPM and more housey track selection. Things like Mindcircus G&D remix. This kills the space crowd. It worked in NYC when he played last month but I could have told him it wouldnt work at space. None the less it happened. It seemed that most of the people in the mainroom loved the cheesy crap and he played two of his crappy classics to include Nothing but you (blechhhhhh). Whatever good he did was ruined in his last hour or two. I can understand the moving to the slower side during the middle of his set as it is what he does for his extended sets but to continue off it with crap cheese trance was unacceptable. I can say this, the first two hours was phenomenal, it really seemed like he made the bassline loops specifically for space. He even tried to use them on the cheesy crap but it was of no use to me. He had many many different ones though. The sound also was turned down during the middle of his set, I think because the firemarshall was there but later on the sound was resumed at its normal level.

When he got off at 6:15 I immediately made a mad dash for the stairs to get to the terrace. After waiting in line for a little while I decided it was be in my best interest to grease a bouncer. I offered up a small amount of money and got right on up. I normally dont promote this but Oscar Gs set was more minimal than the house I hear in Charlotte, I could not take it any more.

Apparently the situation at the front entrance had taken a turn for the worse and the presale line was the same as the general admission line. People had to end up waiting or paying a lot of money to get in.

Up on the Terrace things were happening as expected. People in a steady groove, dancing and having fun. The music was good, nothing extremely memorable but definitely good and on point. I dont think I heard Sander slip once on the decks for the 4 hours I listened to him. The crowd seemed to be in a good mood too because I didnt notice any fights break out. The upstairs appeared to be at capacity the entire time I was up there.

Pictures






Videos can be found here
There should be 15 videos total and they are still uploading now so if you do not see them all, check back
http://dreambeamz.com/pvdwmcspace/



Excellent Review!!!! the last two times ive seen him at space have been awsome! the key is in the line up most of the time. also PVD seems to "take it easy" during WMC IMO


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Mar-27-2007 17:26:

quote:
Originally posted by vtec junkie
I don't get it....PVD is always good in NYC....how come he always sucks in Miami??? Well at least during the conference. I was not there but past few years he never impressed me in Miami.


For that reason I don't think PvD is done.

Lis i have to disagree with you.

He brought it nasty when he played on the space patio.. and november was awesome. He prob played 2 old tracks.

He brings harder than any dj back2back.

everyone here knows pvd has got the craziest schedule [as a trance dj]

he has tons of energy when he plays in miami [not wmc cuz i've never seen him wmc]

The last 2 times before this.. PvD absolutely brought it. Even considering he had to cut his set short because he had to go to the airport at 5 am.

You know if it wasn't cuz of that he would have played a consistant banging set. He starts off fast and hard and ends it the same.

edit-PvD does not play the same set he played 3 years ago. PvD might play his own productions from 3 years ago but how else can he keep the poser fan base?? You know every dj is guilty of playing their biggest tunes. It's what made him famous to the poser world.

If he does play the same set in a few different places it's OUR own fault for keeping upto date with the music and what he played in NYC/or where ever.

How else would we hear the PvD re-works if he doesn't whore it out. He's the only person who ever has those. If u want to hear a track that 100 other dj's can play.. Or Do u wanna hear the sick re-work from the man?


Posted by FallingMoon on Mar-27-2007 17:31:

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
For that reason I don't think PvD is done.

Lis i have to disagree with you.

He brought it nasty when he played on the space patio.. and november was awesome. He prob played 2 old tracks.

He brings harder than any dj back2back.

everyone here knows pvd has got the craziest schedule [as a trance dj]

he has tons of energy when he plays in miami [not wmc cuz i've never seen him wmc]

The last 2 times before this.. PvD absolutely brought it. Even considering he had to cut his set short because he had to go to the airport at 5 am.

You know if it wasn't cuz of that he would have played a consistant banging set. He starts off fast and hard and ends it the same.


I didn't go to the one he played on the patio and the one in Nov. & I get where people say he was great and what not...like I said I'd go see him in a NON WMC event.

Point is, he doesn't bring it for WMC like he SHOULD...for god sake its WMC & the prices are outta hand.

I just dont think he does it for me anymore...I'd go see him OUT of Miami but it's not the old PvD I loved.
He still plays the same tracks over & over and I am tired of that plus it's a HASSLE to see him because of how packed/expenive things are.

I just see more cons than pros but that's just me.


Posted by LiquidX on Mar-27-2007 17:32:

We should have .. A Night with EdgarV ... he's set at Cameo waaas awesomeee!


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Mar-27-2007 17:34:

quote:
Originally posted by FallingMoon
I didn't go to the one he played on the patio and the one in Nov. & I get where people say he was great and what not...like I said I'd go see him in a NON WMC event.

Point is, he doesn't bring it for WMC like he SHOULD...for god sake its WMC & the prices are outta hand.

I just dont think he does it for me anymore...I'd go see him OUT of Miami but it's not the old PvD I loved.
He still plays the same tracks over & over and I am tired of that plus it's a HASSLE to see him because of how packed/expenive things are.

I just see more cons than pros but that's just me.


That's fine.

But we don't need another DA on the boards bashing his ONCE fav dj

You weren't there. I wasn't there.

I haven't lost hope in him yet and I am dying for mother fuking Summerstage

BYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

edit- oh and according to some review not all the dj's brought it this wmc


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