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Europe likes it hard, America likes it soft?

One of the things I've noticed over the years is that Europeans tend to listen to (and prefer) a much harder sound than Americans.

You may think of Holland and the UK, for instance, as "cradles of trance", but in fact Hardstyle is immensely popular in both of these countries, much more so than "airy" trance. Italy also pumps out a lot of Hardstyle. Many people in eastern Europe and Scandinavia also download a lot of harder music and even hardcore.

I've almost never seen any Americans rave about a harder sound, however. They seem to enjoy chill-out and slow progressive sounds a lot more. Anybody else notice this? A cultural difference, perhaps?

there are no hardcore/speedcore/terror parties here

but i think thats a good thing

Americans like teh hip h0pz...

They also like it soft...

...down in Miami...

americans are pussies

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Originally posted by TheKidsWantTechno americans are pussies

ur american

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Originally posted by nchs09 ur american

and im a pussy


but to be honest, i dont think a HUGE portion of europeans listen to hardstyle/hardcore/etc. it's mainly younger teenagers and such

altho it is certainly true, most europeans into the scene of any age do like their techno/minimal/acid-infused "harder" music

certainly not the progressive house of new york, or funky house of miami or san fran. unless youre in spain

Here in vancouver there are a few Hardstyle parties, but its mostly soft

haha wtf is a terror party?

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Originally posted by Spartan haha wtf is a terror party?

it goes something like this.... from lowest to hardest


minimal > house > trance > techno > hardcore > speedcore > terror > death.

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Originally posted by nchs09 minimal > house > trance > techno > hardcore > speedcore > terror > death.

Actually, speedcore on the whole is faster than terror. Speedcore can go all the way up to 1000 BPM and is quite simple, while terror focuses more on darkness and atmosphere rather than speed.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Actually, speedcore on the whole is faster than terror. Speedcore can go all the way up to 1000 BPM and is quite simple, while terror focuses more on darkness and atmosphere rather than speed.

its still fucking fast....

It seems to me that clubs in the states are all about dancing and hooking up while clubs in Europe are just about getting smashed and high so the difference in music style makes sense.

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Originally posted by weymouth It seems to me that clubs in the states are all about dancing and hooking up while clubs in Europe are just about getting smashed and high so the difference in music style makes sense.

sounds about right to me

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Originally posted by TheKidsWantTechno americans are pussies

happy hardcore sux

Australias scene is mostly Hard Dance from my experience. Atleast in the cities I've lived in. Other than that, it's all commercial/poppy dance.

This is a sufficiently interesting topic that I'd like to bump it up and get some more comments.

It's funny because, if you think about sports for instance, Americans prefer a lot of "action" sports like football, and look down on soccer (European football) as too "soft" or too slow.

But it's the opposite with music.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Actually, speedcore on the whole is faster than terror. Speedcore can go all the way up to 1000 BPM and is quite simple, while terror focuses more on darkness and atmosphere rather than speed.

1000 BPM, lol. I wouldn't know how to beatmatch it

honestly i think there are still a lot of americans that are interested in that kinda stuff...they are usually teenagers that like metal and stuff and just discovered little rave like parties...

i just don't see the appeal really. i don't want to listen to just a bunch of crappy noise.

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Originally posted by weymouth It seems to me that clubs in the states are all about dancing and hooking up while clubs in Europe are just about getting smashed and high so the difference in music style makes sense.

I'd disagree... The clubs in New York are filled with people mangled out of their minds lol... There's something for everyone here, just need to look for it, I guess. I think we had our hard phase and that was that, then electro came to Brooklyn, was perfected and churned into minimal in Berlin and came right back to Manhattan. It's all about progression I guess. I'm sure some people listening to Scot Project and the "hard house" of the late 90s were asking "What happened to acid house and 303's?" Ten years from now, some of us will be asking "What happened to minimal, where'd it go?" Sad but true, myself a hard trance lover, I think it's pretty much done in the United States. Sure, a crowd in New York will go insane when the usual suspects bring it up a notch and play hard/tech-trance, but the older hard trance acts (except for Scot Project) just won't get the job done here, the city has moved on.

Re: Europe likes it hard, America likes it soft?

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd You may think of Holland and the UK, for instance, as "cradles of trance", but in fact Hardstyle is immensely popular in both of these countries, much more so than "airy" trance.

Funny that I live in the UK, and I think that's a load of shit.

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Originally posted by Push2005 1000 BPM, lol. I wouldn't know how to beatmatch it

Matches perfectly with a 125 BPM track..

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Originally posted by nchs09 it goes something like this.... from lowest to hardest minimal > house > trance > techno > hardcore > speedcore > terror > death.

anyway i donkt know how to respond to the argument since i know plenty of noobs and guidos here in america that dig "techno" (or hardstyle) im not into most hardstyle anyway so i can only speak for myself.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd This is a sufficiently interesting topic that I'd like to bump it up and get some more comments. It's funny because, if you think about sports for instance, Americans prefer a lot of "action" sports like football, and look down on soccer (European football) as too "soft" or too slow. But it's the opposite with music.

Football a sport of action? I would say a sport of break-action-break-action, while soccer is at least non-stop or has really short breaks during the play. Not that I do not like American football.
As for music here in Switzerland we usually like it a bit more hard, but the great days of the hardtrance are now gone, even here the sound has changed.

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Originally posted by basd Matches perfectly with a 125 BPM track..

Besides, who's gonna notice if you're not spot on

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