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Posted by eRRaTiK on Mar-30-2007 02:00:

Idea Earth Hour Sat 31st March 2007

In an effort to reduce global warming, Saturday 21st March 2007 will mark the first Earth Hour. Businesses and individuals are encouraged to participate. My current employer sent around a general email last week notifying everybody that they were getting involved, which is awesome!

View the Earth Hour commercial on YouTube.

This year�s Earth Hour will happen in Sydney, but we hope that Earth Hour can grow into a global campaign. If you live outside of Sydney, you can show your support by joining us and turning off your lights at 09:30:00 a.m. Saturday March 31, 2007 in GMT (here�s a handy timezone converter just in case).

For Earth Hour to have a big impact, as many people as possible need to take part.

Three Steps for getting involved:

1. SIGN UP TO EARTH HOUR and commit to turning off your lights on 31 March from 7.30pm to 8.30pm. It�s free!

2. GET OFF STANDBY Unplug any appliances � mobile phone charger, TV, microwave, MP3 player � that are not being used and are on standby. Appliances left on standby account for up to 10% of the average household�s electricity use.

3. SPREAD THE WORD about Earth Hour by involving your friends and family. Encourage them to sign-up turn off their lights at 7.30pm AEST Saturday 31 March 2007.



Other resources:

* Sydney Morning Herald Science Blog

* Earth Hour screensaver � this is cool!


Posted by narcism on Mar-30-2007 02:25:

meh the damage is already done


Posted by eRRaTiK on Mar-30-2007 02:37:

quote:
Originally posted by narcism
meh the damage is already done


so if something is hurting (not dead), you don't do anything to try and heal it?


Posted by narcism on Mar-30-2007 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
so if something is hurting (not dead), you don't do anything to try and heal it?



whats turning off your lights for an hour supposed to achieve?
other than shit we have a problem.... which everyone has known about for years


Posted by Taranis on Mar-30-2007 04:20:

Stupid idea.


Posted by Fledz on Mar-30-2007 04:22:

How about you just do it. It's only an hour.

Plus, the sky will be awesome since a reduction in light means you will be able to see more stars.


Posted by narcism on Mar-30-2007 04:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
How about you just do it. It's only an hour.


how bout no.


Posted by gumble on Mar-30-2007 04:35:

im sorry kids, the carbon dioxide we pump out has little affect on the earths "global warming" phenomena.

Solar Irradiation is most probably the real cause....

Other planets are undergoing "global warming" at present: Jupiter, Mars, Pluto and a couple of Neptune's moons. I dont see any bad humans over there leaving thier lights on....

Anyway, we can't take ourselves out of nature, we are nature, and what we do changes shit, so we evolve, life goes on through change.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-30-2007 04:46:

what a load of shit gumble.


Posted by Fledz on Mar-31-2007 03:22:

quote:
Originally posted by gumble
im sorry kids, the carbon dioxide we pump out has little affect on the earths "global warming" phenomena.

Solar Irradiation is most probably the real cause....

Other planets are undergoing "global warming" at present: Jupiter, Mars, Pluto and a couple of Neptune's moons. I dont see any bad humans over there leaving thier lights on....

Anyway, we can't take ourselves out of nature, we are nature, and what we do changes shit, so we evolve, life goes on through change.


I would like to see your thousand page report on this please, seeing as you've done so much research to come to this wonderfully heart warming conclusion.


Posted by Taranis on Mar-31-2007 04:51:

It's stupid because it's the kind of thing that makes absolutely 'no' difference in the long run, yet people do it so they can feel all satisfied and self-righteous, despite the fact that far from helping to solve the problem, they go straight back to being a part of it the moment that hour is up.

You want to cut down on pollution? Remove all the lightbulbs from your house and start using candles on a permanant basis. Anything less is just masturbatory self-delusional bullshit.

It's like poverty, people throw $5 at red cross or some other BS charity, then while they feel all good about themselves they go spend $100 on a pair of nike shoes.

People suck :|


Posted by Philby on Mar-31-2007 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what a load of shit gumble.


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...rs-warming.html

http://www.space.com/scienceastrono...put_030320.html




http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/cause.html


Posted by gumble on Mar-31-2007 08:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
I would like to see your thousand page report on this please, seeing as you've done so much research to come to this wonderfully heart warming conclusion.



no, i just like to make sure people hear both sides of the argument before arriving at conclusions based on general public opinion.

i also find it hard to take anything sponsored by WWF and Sydney Morning Herald seriously.


and thankyou Dr Phil our friendly geologist....


Posted by Fledz on Apr-01-2007 13:17:

quote:
Originally posted by gumble
no, i just like to make sure people hear both sides of the argument before arriving at conclusions based on general public opinion.

i also find it hard to take anything sponsored by WWF and Sydney Morning Herald seriously.


and thankyou Dr Phil our friendly geologist....


No problems Oprah


Posted by narcism on Apr-01-2007 13:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
No problems Oprah


good to see u've turned your comp back on


Posted by Fledz on Apr-01-2007 13:32:

Actually it's environmentally friendly as it runs on wind power.


Posted by gumble on Apr-01-2007 14:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
No problems Oprah


oprah would've turned her lights off for the hour....


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-02-2007 07:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...rs-warming.html

http://www.space.com/scienceastrono...put_030320.html




http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/cause.html


so what, a few cranks from the scientific fraternity start disagreeing with worldwide consensus and suddenly we're all wrong?

basically my comment referred to gumbles "we all evolve, time moves on etc", when we all know evolution is a really slow process, and certainly not fast enough to keep up with manmade global warming.


Posted by gumble on Apr-02-2007 07:45:

depends what scale of time you look at pkc

my main point is that we can't take ourselves outta what we do to the world, we are inevitably going to change it, and therefore we have to adapt (prolly should have used that word instead) to our consequences. it doesnt at all make it right tho.

i think its quite healthy that people are challenging the idea of global warming tho, being mainly attributed to what homo sapiens get up to...

as a zoologist i whole heartedly appreciate the need to try and preserve what we have. but i think its also important to recognise that we are only in the here and now, the planet has gone through many periods of warming and cooling, and this has led to evolutionary changes and differing levels of species diversity.

there have been many more (and greater) mass extinctions that what humans have done, and allthough i dont think we should use that as an excuse, the point is that the building blocks of life still exist beyond what we can possibly do to the planet, and life will go on...


the thing with this earth hour, as raised before, is that anyone can see that its not going to do anything. if one hour of non electrical usage can change the millions of hours of usage, then i think we would have been in a LOT of trouble, a LONG time ago.

the real solution and bottom line is this: GO NUCLEAR.

radioactivity is what makes the world go round (literally).


Posted by Philby on Apr-02-2007 08:39:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
so what, a few cranks from the scientific fraternity start disagreeing with worldwide consensus and suddenly we're all wrong?




you have to keep an open mind about stuff like this...
yes the temperature has increased
yes the temperature has increased and decreased before

yes there is more CO2 in the atmosphere than before
yes CO2 is a greenhouse gas
yes there are other greenhouse gases
yes CO2 makes up less than 1% of the atmosphere...
yes there are things like clounds that can act as greenhouse gases, lets ban all clouds!!

who says global warming is a bad thing anyway? would you all prefer to live in an ice age?



im not saying that its all bullshit, but its not all concrete one way or the other.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-02-2007 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by gumble
depends what scale of time you look at pkc

my main point is that we can't take ourselves outta what we do to the world, we are inevitably going to change it, and therefore we have to adapt (prolly should have used that word instead) to our consequences. it doesnt at all make it right tho.

i think its quite healthy that people are challenging the idea of global warming tho, being mainly attributed to what homo sapiens get up to...

as a zoologist i whole heartedly appreciate the need to try and preserve what we have. but i think its also important to recognise that we are only in the here and now, the planet has gone through many periods of warming and cooling, and this has led to evolutionary changes and differing levels of species diversity.

there have been many more (and greater) mass extinctions that what humans have done, and allthough i dont think we should use that as an excuse, the point is that the building blocks of life still exist beyond what we can possibly do to the planet, and life will go on...


the thing with this earth hour, as raised before, is that anyone can see that its not going to do anything. if one hour of non electrical usage can change the millions of hours of usage, then i think we would have been in a LOT of trouble, a LONG time ago.

the real solution and bottom line is this: GO NUCLEAR.

radioactivity is what makes the world go round (literally).


wow. a well-reasoned, well-argued, mature and considerate post by gumble. i think i just fell off my chair we mostly agree then.

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
who says global warming is a bad thing anyway? would you all prefer to live in an ice age?


moderate, natural changes in weather isnt a bad thing. but a continual rise in temperature, brought on my artificial means (ie us) is a bad thing. it occurs infinitely faster than natural warming and as such the natural organisms dont have the time to adjust. so they die. there arent too many people that argue the warming in the last 80 or so years is natural.

ultimately, we can't afford to take the view that global warming isn't a bad thing, coz by the time we're really dealing with the fallout, it'll be too late (on many fronts) to do anything about it.


Posted by eRRaTiK on Apr-15-2007 00:39:

What a difference an hour can make�

- According to Energy Australia, for the hour between 7.30pm and 8.30pm on 31 March 2007, there was a 10.2% reduction in electricity consumption across the Sydney CBD. This is calculated as follows: Sydney CBD temperature during Earth Hour was 19.8c. Typical energy consumption at this temperature between 7.30 and 8.30 is 228,180 KWh. Actual electricity consumption in the Sydney CBD at this time was 204,900 KWh. Energy Australia analysed data over 4 years to get the typical consumption on a Saturday night in the CBD during March and April. This takes into account daylight savings and weather.

- The energy saving during Earth Hour is equivalent to taking 48,613 cars off the road for one hour, or 200,000 standard televisions turned off for one hour. This represents a saving of 24.86 tonnes of carbon dioxide.

- Integral Energy manages the network covering Greater Western Sydney, The Blue Mountains and the Southern Highlands and the Illawarra. According to their Corporate Environment Manager, Denise Corish, their data showed that Earth Hour definitely had an effect. "Major substations in residential areas across western Sydney and also in parts of the Illawarra showed a noticeable drop in load between 7.15pm and 8.00pm, more than we would expect on a similar Saturday night. We noticed a steep decline in the first five minutes of Earth Hour, between 7.30 and 7.35pm, equivalent to the amount of electricity needed to power 6,500 homes."

Refer here for some more Earth Hour 2007 results.

...

What's next?

Earth Day comes around on April 22nd in North America, and World Environment Day is celebrated on June 5th across the rest of the world.

Read more about what you can do (all year round) at http://www.worldwildlife.org/earthday/


Posted by Lloyd on Apr-15-2007 11:10:

The point has already been made as to why Earth Hour isn't all that great.

That point being that, while for one hour in one day we saved X amount of power, we're going to make up for that very quickly.

It's not a bad thing that the power was saved - but what good has it done if everybody just turns their lights back on when it's over, pats themselves on the back, thinks "I've done the world some good!", and then leaves the outside light on while they sleep?

Earth Hour should be Earth All The Fucking Time. People need to turn things off when they leave the room, not, for one hour in their liftime, turn everything off and believe they're making a difference.


Posted by Fledz on Apr-15-2007 11:16:

The point was that this was a start. Your points are very valid but it needs to begin somewhere.


Posted by eRRaTiK on Apr-15-2007 13:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Lloyd
Earth Hour should be Earth All The Fucking Time. People need to turn things off when they leave the room, not, for one hour in their liftime, turn everything off and believe they're making a difference.


Nobody is disagreeing with you here, the campaign is all about raising awareness. That if x could be achieved in one hour, then so much more could be achieved all the time. Campaigns like this are particularly good for people who want or need statistical/visible proof of what's possible.

However it's not easy to change the behaviour of millions at the drop of a hat. By doing absolutely nothing at all (ie. no campaign), how is that helping anybody?

It's got to be a gradual process. All great feats are accomplished by first taking little steps.


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