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supersaw superwave dll
can vanguard do a supersaw?
i downloaded SUPERWAVEP8.dll
where should i put it?
i have FL 6 producer
thanks
put it in your pipe and smoke it
found it "C:\Program Files\Image-Line\FL Studio 6\Plugins\VST"
useless ****
oh look you found it by yourself, good job!
is this supposed to sound like rank 1 - airwave or cygnus x - superstring?
how do u get the lush keyboard jp roland sound?
it sounds like a gameboy
here is the picture if anyone can help
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| Originally posted by rubez how do u get the lush keyboard jp roland sound? |
using software to recreate it as best possibe
i'll look into it when i'm at home.
For recreating good supersaw sounds I'd say go with Arturia Mini Moog, or Mini Monsta, using:
3X Moog instances:
- 2X: 3 detuned saw waves
- 1X: one regular saw
will give you fat ass result, but then again, it will kill you cpu unless you got one hell of a beast there.
other then that, pro 53 is great, ES2, and basicly almost every VST that you know how to use right.
The Definition (from another post here, by DJSentinel):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersaw
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Supersaw From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia What is the supersaw? How is the sound achieved? Well here is a bit of info on Roland's supersaw. The "supersaw" is a special waveform originally on the Roland JP-8000 and 8080 line of Analog Modelling Synthesizers, thought I has made its way into other synths from Roland. The idea behind the supersaw is the emulate the sound of more than one sawtooth oscillator using just one oscillator. The waveform is described as freerun oscillator which its shape "or timbre" is that of 7 detuned sawtooth oscillators detuned against each other over a period of time. This creates the known chorus effect, which can be though of as 7 singers who are singing within +10 or -10 cents of each other. The reason the supersaw sounds so much different than that is that each oscillator of 7 is exactly the same shape, which creates a much clearer representation of that "chorus effect." The actual process that goes into the supersaw effect is known as Phase Desync. Phase Desync is a synthesis technique to achieve a "chorus" sound. It can be done by using a carrier wave "saw oscillator for example," and modulating its signal using a comb filter where the filter cutoff frequency is usually modulated with an LFO, which the LFO's depth (or amplitude) is equal to the saw oscillator's current frequency. It can also be done by using a copied signal and have the copy run throught a delay which the delay's time is modulated again by an LFO where the LFO's depth is equal to the saw oscillator's current frequency. But most of the time the effect is achived by taking two saw oscillators and detuning one plus or minus an amount of cents away from the other's current frequency. What produces the effect is the sum of two "desynced" waves produces a sum wave, which its timbre changes according to the position of the "desynced" wave of the pair. This all results in the effects that there is more than one oscillator and creates that shimmering and inconstant tone. The supersaw has taken much populaty in electronic music, and in specific the trance genre. This article was written by DJsentinel from Aylcame Productions. All information is as given and has been collected from self-knowledge and the various bits and pieces of the definiton of "supersaw" on the internet. You may contact DJsentinel at http://www.aylcame.aerohostale.com/ |
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| Originally posted by 3rd Signal For recreating good supersaw sounds I'd say go with Arturia Mini Moog, or Mini Monsta, using: 3X Moog instances: - 2X: 3 detuned saw waves - 1X: one regular saw will give you fat ass result, but then again, it will kill you cpu unless you got one hell of a beast there. other then that, pro 53 is great, ES2, and basicly almost every VST that you know how to use right. The Definition (from another post here, by DJSentinel): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersaw Good luck! P.S. There are so many posts about the SuperSaw that I don't see any reason for farther explaination, now it's just up to you to go back and search for some more knowledge. |
If you look he recommends a total of 6 detuned saw waves plus one other for good measure! Thats alot of saw!
The ones I would use would be V-station, Reaktor, Vaz or my JP8080 
FJ
The good thing about the Roland JP, is that you get the supersaw by pressing one button, and moving one slider.
The P8 isnt very good at making them though, Superwave Performer, and Supersaw VST does a better job.
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| Originally posted by djms You sure you can get a supersaw sound out of the minimoog? I've never heard it do any saw kinda sounds............. |
so is pro53 the one is should get for supersaw purposes?
is there a guide to programming a pro53 synth or another one? because it just sounds like a waveform oscillator u get out of science.
its hard to see how u can go from a monotone noise to a lush 'rank 1 - airwave' sound.
i have searched google but it is hard to find what iam looking for especially when i dont really know what im looking for exactly.
can anyone link me to a guide or something to program a synth to make supersaw sounds?
that would be greatly appreciated
actually i got the vst installed myself, i just hadnt done it in a while. recently went back to producing and the synths is what im trying to learn, i can do most other things. just need a little help.
there was a time when u were shit at making supersaws..
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| Originally posted by rubez can anyone link me to a guide or something to program a synth to make supersaw sounds? that would be greatly appreciated |
thanks!
would this guide work ONLY with pro53 by the way?
basicly same principle bro...try the same idea on other stuff, should come out pretty much the same.
basicly same principle bro...try the same idea on other stuff, should come out pretty much the same.
*slaps subtle*
I hate to say this but if you want to make a supersaw, get a part time job, save up 450 smackeroons and just buy a JP8000 and get it out of your system.
You will never clone it perfectly. I tried on and off for a couple of months painstakingly emulating one on a Virus B and the closer you get, the more you realise that there are just some subtleties you can't make up for without wasting an unbelievable amount of time and effort.
Why do people exert so much effort to emulate an emulation? Seriously, the supersaw itself sounds like shit compared to the unison effects that it tries to sound like.
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| Originally posted by thoughtlessjex Why do people exert so much effort to emulate an emulation? Seriously, the supersaw itself sounds like shit compared to the unison effects that it tries to sound like. |
Go listen to a song like Cygnus X - Superstring. That's not a Supersaw. It's four years too early. That's a unison effect made with an analog synthesizer. That is warmth. Now go listen to System F - Out of the Blue. The famed supersaw pales in comparison. It only sounds good when a chorus effect is added, which is pretty much a unison effect. I'd be willing to bet that even Cygnus X used a chorus on whatever synth they were using.
Seriously, I get a perfectly fine chorus effect out of Synth1 by just detuning the second ocsillator, noodling the chorus to where I like it and pressing the unison button. Voila, warm thick sounds. Not necessarily as warm as analog unison, but then neither was the JP 8080 supersaw.
I have only heard the Rank 1 mix of that track, and i think they used the JP8000 for the remix. But i definitely see your point, I will get the original track, and see how that sounds..
Nonetheless, the 7 detuned saws are hard to emulate with software, especially when u want the filter to sound as good.
And the supersaw by definition is the waveform from the JP 8000, so the original Superstring wasnt actually a supersaw.
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