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Posted by kush paintings on Apr-05-2007 16:29:

In Defense of 'Call On Me'

This may seem unrelated for a moment, so bare with me. I just watched a Peter Jackson (Lord of the Rings, King Kong) movie, Dead Alive, from earlier in his career. At first glance it appears to be a horribly bad slasher flick, but when you look at it closer, you realize Jackson is playing with the genre the whole time and having fun with it.

While Dead Alive did not turn Jackson into a celebrity director, it did earn him respect. For some reason, this move vaguely reminded me of Eric Prydz's Call On Me. If you knew nothing of him, you could've easily seen it as a successful attempt to cash in on a shallow pop song. But, looking back now on how far he has come, could you say he too was consciously playing with the pop genre? Are there any moments where he winks to those who are attune to the conventions of the pop dance genre he was working in? I haven't read any interviews with him, but am curious to find out how he feels about the song and how he felt making a song that, in my opinion, is really out of line with the rest of his work.


Posted by Yohan on Apr-05-2007 16:31:

It got him plenty of attention, both positive and negative.

There is no such thing as bad PR


Posted by THE_Chris on Apr-05-2007 17:21:

Theres far worse cheese out there.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Apr-05-2007 17:25:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
Theres far worse cheese out there.

True. Not many but true nevertheless.


Posted by iammesol on Apr-05-2007 18:29:

Hes said in countless interviews that he was just playing with it (as he was with his new hit Proper Education) and suddenly it got huge response. He never intended to release it (again, like Proper Education.) He never intended for anyone to like it, and in fact told Ministry of Sound to go f*** themselves when they asked him to make another track of the same nature.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Apr-05-2007 20:52:

I don't think you were paying much attention to Dead Alive, because it's a zombie film. And absolutely nothing like a slasher. I don't really think it plays with the conventions of either sub-genre either. Great film though- hilarious.


Posted by daphunky1 on Apr-05-2007 22:13:

I remember being so stoked when I found of that eric prydz was a legitimate house producer after only knowing of him through call on me. It's good to hear he was just messin around.


Posted by RickyM on Apr-05-2007 22:56:

Call on me - A good bouncy track.


Posted by nefardec on Apr-06-2007 00:23:

@kush paintings -

i have wondered about that. Prydz is too good to be producing shit like that! I would like to think he was manipulating the genre (as any innovator does) but who knows for real. That could all be post-rationalization.

He used the same formula on Pryda - Shadows (cover of Alan Parsons Project - Old & Wise)

at least with proper education he made no attempt to mask the creator

I find it rather amusing that he has tapped into such a market this way. There are so many ignorant people out there who have no clue who Steve Winwood is.


there is a nagging hint of cynicism in prydz' work imo


Posted by CrazedOut on Apr-06-2007 06:29:

Peter Jackson wtf this ain't the movie forum


Posted by idoru on Apr-06-2007 10:05:

quote:
Originally posted by CrazedOut
Peter Jackson wtf this ain't the movie forum


This is true, but some may see his comparison as apt, therefore it's open to discussion.


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Apr-06-2007 13:15:

As I recall, Prydz hated Call on Me, and hated being associated with it.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Apr-06-2007 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
As I recall, Prydz hated Call on Me, and hated being associated with it.

Didn't mind getting the money from it though.


Posted by montana on Apr-06-2007 14:50:

quote:
Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
As I recall, Prydz hated Call on Me, and hated being associated with it.


he hated the video, since it's just 3minutes worth of insulting softcore porn disguised as a musicvideo. i don't think he ever said that he hated the track, altho i think he is sick of being branded with the track since he has moved on a bit from that sound


Posted by iammesol on Apr-06-2007 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
he hated the video, since it's just 3minutes worth of insulting softcore porn disguised as a musicvideo. i don't think he ever said that he hated the track, altho i think he is sick of being branded with the track since he has moved on a bit from that sound


bingo


Posted by josh rising on Apr-07-2007 03:32:

if he hated it so much, why did he even release it? nobody forced him to, it's his own decision at the end of the day. makes no sense to me, unless of course he was just in it for the money.


Posted by Protege on Apr-07-2007 03:40:

quote:
Originally posted by josh rising
if he hated it so much, why did he even release it? nobody forced him to, it's his own decision at the end of the day. makes no sense to me, unless of course he was just in it for the money.


most people like money. and its not that bad. its like really sweet candy, i can handle a little every now and then but any more and i get sick of it.


Posted by julien2 on Apr-07-2007 04:25:

Knockout.


Posted by limin_li on Apr-07-2007 04:38:

You are absolutely right, I believe 3/4 of my friends heard Valarie but cannot connect Eric Prdyz and Steve Windwood together. Its like they don't even know 80's pop music. When music was MUSIC!!




quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
@kush paintings -

i have wondered about that. Prydz is too good to be producing shit like that! I would like to think he was manipulating the genre (as any innovator does) but who knows for real. That could all be post-rationalization.

He used the same formula on Pryda - Shadows (cover of Alan Parsons Project - Old & Wise)

at least with proper education he made no attempt to mask the creator

I find it rather amusing that he has tapped into such a market this way. There are so many ignorant people out there who have no clue who Steve Winwood is.


there is a nagging hint of cynicism in prydz' work imo


Posted by iammesol on Apr-07-2007 04:40:

quote:
Originally posted by josh rising
if he hated it so much, why did he even release it? nobody forced him to, it's his own decision at the end of the day. makes no sense to me, unless of course he was just in it for the money.


If you shat on a plate, and someone offered you $100 straight up for it... screaming and jumping like it was the greatest thing on earth... would you not take the money?


Posted by cmay119 on Apr-07-2007 04:43:

I've heard worse for Pop Dance Music. Take it for what it is. I guess we can start hating Thomas Bangalter and 'Together' for doing there rendition of the track long before it was ever released as a single by Prydz (still never heard what came of that story btw).

I personally liked the track when I first heard it. It got played out, and that should be the end of it. Definately not Prydz' best work, but it was definately catchy.


Posted by nikhil chinapa on Apr-07-2007 11:25:

quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
If you shat on a plate, and someone offered you $100 straight up for it... screaming and jumping like it was the greatest thing on earth... would you not take the money?


Sure ....why not. I know some people would even pop a laxative and try and make even more money.

I actually really liked the track, and at the time was playing Call on me followed by Woz not Woz at every single gig i had. I think the track's produced brilliantly, and calling something cheese just because it gets popular, isn't quite fair. (Unless your name's DJ Sammy)

Unlikely that Prydz would have hated the track when he produced it... but like someone said, would probably have hated what it went on to represent in the video and with MOS wanting "me too" versions of it.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Apr-07-2007 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by nikhil chinapa
and calling something cheese just because it gets popular, isn't quite fair.

Is this line going to be the next "you can't talk unless you make something better"-argument?

It doesn't get called cheese because it's popular, it got popular because it is cheese. And not even the good kind.



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