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Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-06-2007 02:02:

Robert Henke's Monodeck II

omfg this shit looks amazing.

http://www.monolake.de/monodeck/index.html





*edit

videoooo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-CtxzSMAYc


Posted by jupiterone on Apr-06-2007 05:47:

Indeed, shes a beauty.


Posted by RJT on Apr-06-2007 13:50:

Very, very cool. Would love to get my hands on that thing

Looks like Henke still needs some practice with it though

That being said, I'd love to see a Monolake show.


Posted by david.michael on Apr-06-2007 14:10:

The url contained a malformed video id.


Posted by RJT on Apr-06-2007 14:14:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
The url contained a malformed video id.


Just search either "Henke Monodeck" or "Monodeck 2" and you'll be all set


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-06-2007 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
The url contained a malformed video id.


and I re-pasted it again. It should be correct now -_-


Posted by jupiterone on Apr-06-2007 15:26:

I've been interested in building a custom controller for a damn long time. Seems like such a challenging task though, I just love the look of it. I know for a fact you can get the parts you need from http://www.doepfer.de/home.htm.

Would be extremely expensive though.


Posted by jupiterone on Apr-06-2007 16:05:

By the way heres Richies controller, was on Doepfer







I'd give my left kidney for that


Posted by Brandon H. on Apr-06-2007 19:28:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
By the way heres Richies controller, was on Doepfer







I'd give my left kidney for that








Soooo Sooooo fucking SICK


I feel so inferior when I look at these fucking controllers


Posted by idoru on Apr-06-2007 19:42:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
By the way heres Richies controller, was on Doepfer







I'd give my left kidney for that


It looks like it would break quite easily.


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-06-2007 20:03:

crossfaders were so last century.


Posted by Inertia on Apr-07-2007 17:24:

Richie's controller isn't the same thing.

that's the CTRL:LIVE console. he has only used that once, for the Plastikman LIVE show in Mutek 2004. it's a control console for audio AND video. it is linked to Ableton and this other program for screwing with video, Touch. he actually had the programmers find a way to link the two, in the way that now each sound also has an image, and if he modifies the sound somehow, he also modifies the image. the show has only been done once, though.

his MIDI controller is the Allen & Heath CTRL:92



originally a hand-modded XONE:62 made by Richie's dad, and Allen & Heath took it in, checked it out, modded a 92 to do what that did, and sent it to Richie. for a while, it was exclusively his, now i understand it's commercially available.


Posted by jupiterone on Apr-07-2007 17:43:

I know, but I only linked that because it is similar to Henkes controller and they were both on Doepfer.

Is the mixer really commercially available? I can't seem to find any information on it other than someone on this forum claims to own one.


Posted by Inertia on Apr-07-2007 20:31:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
I know, but I only linked that because it is similar to Henkes controller and they were both on Doepfer.

Is the mixer really commercially available? I can't seem to find any information on it other than someone on this forum claims to own one.


hrm, i remember they made about 6 of em, gave them to some DJs to test out. those were the first batch that were not for m_nus people. i understood this was the step before commercially selling the thing.

also, i remember showing links to a friend of mine while he was still studying at Full Sail, sound engineering and music production, about a year ago. like 6 months later he msg'd me and said "hey, you know that MIDI mixer you showed me? i took a class with one today".

but, searching around, i can't seem to find any links to buy one. A&H has a CTRL:92 section in their forums. but they don't have the CTRL featured on their site. strange...


Posted by Brandon H. on Apr-07-2007 20:44:

Yeah, I've seen the Xone CTRL and its by far one of the raddest looking mixers ever. Speaking of Richie and his dad, anyone seen that really cool documentary on him? Quite insightful to all of that...


Anyway, as to my knowledge, the CTRL wasn't ever made commercially available...but theres somebody on the Bedroom Setup forums who boasts to have one? I dont know


Posted by Inertia on Apr-07-2007 20:48:

yeah, i saw Slices' Pioneers of Electronic Music vol. 1: Richie Hawtin.

great watch.

anyways, the plan was, to my knowledge, to sell the thing, eventually. perhaps they have backtracked.

in any case, it doesn't hold a candle to the Monodeck II, because, well, nothing does.


Posted by jupiterone on Apr-07-2007 22:01:

As expensive as it would be, I believe you could buy a number cheap midi controllers, take them apart and basically dump them in your own box and with a bit of engineering get it to work as one big application?

Or am I wrong?


Posted by idoru on Apr-08-2007 03:25:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
As expensive as it would be, I believe you could buy a number cheap midi controllers, take them apart and basically dump them in your own box and with a bit of engineering get it to work as one big application?

Or am I wrong?


It's perfectly possible, although to get a pristine-looking mixer would be hard (but I have limited knowledge, so I could be talking out of my ass).

What I'd like to do (sometime within the next, say, ten years because it's expensive and I'm lazy) is take a Xone:92, a Soundbyte and an EFX and tear them apart and put them into my own box and add some MIDI capabilities. It's more than likely wishful thinking at it's finest, but I think the result would be sexy.


Posted by Inertia on Apr-08-2007 03:47:

www.midibox.org my friends.

get to reading, and soldering, and you'll soon have a Maven.

ps: jake, the probability of getting that to work, is, well, quite big. however, it would be kinda dumb if you ask me, as you can chain them together with cables already. in other words, it would take hours upon hours to do, you'd need to get some custom casing done, and the final product would be something you could have done in about 2 minutes just by hooking everything up with the proper cabling

if i were to build something myself, it would end up being like a Monodeck, basically. i'd like something like 16 "channels", each complete with a fader, about 6 buttons, and 6 knobs. it'd pwn if it could like have LEDs that read out the levels from Ableton. don't know if thats possible though.


Posted by idoru on Apr-08-2007 07:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
www.midibox.org my friends.

get to reading, and soldering, and you'll soon have a Maven.

ps: jake, the probability of getting that to work, is, well, quite big. however, it would be kinda dumb if you ask me, as you can chain them together with cables already. in other words, it would take hours upon hours to do, you'd need to get some custom casing done, and the final product would be something you could have done in about 2 minutes just by hooking everything up with the proper cabling

if i were to build something myself, it would end up being like a Monodeck, basically. i'd like something like 16 "channels", each complete with a fader, about 6 buttons, and 6 knobs. it'd pwn if it could like have LEDs that read out the levels from Ableton. don't know if thats possible though.


I know, I just have the urge to do it.


Posted by Inertia on Apr-08-2007 14:58:

off-topic, kind of.

but HAVE YOU PEOPLE SEEN, the Roland TB-303 with the Devilfish mod and the custom AluCase?



Martin aka DJ Ace from www.acid.ch makes those cases.


Posted by idoru on Apr-08-2007 21:55:

After re-reading, I didn't really clarify what I wanted to do. It's a bit (keyword, bit) more than just throwing everything into one box.

- Give each channel it's own independent filter. High-pass and low-pass, I'd eliminate band-pass
- Ditch the crossfader
- Ditch the LFO
- Ditch all aux faders, if Soundbyte can work at the push of one button.
- Ditch both mic channels, Soundbyte (top) and EFX (bottom) will replace them
- Sends/returns for EFX
- Eliminate Delay, Pan, Ring, Fuzz & Zip from EFX. Ditch the EQs. Use different button for Tap button, matching knobs, get rid of the circle for beat cutting and just set the buttons up in a neat fashion. Dunno what I'd do with the jog wheel. I want to keep it, but maybe something smaller
- Add a fifth channel, dedicated to Soundbyte
- Small selection of faders, buttons and knobs on the right dedicated to MIDI

I dunno. For the most part it sounds pointless. I love the Xone and the EFX and I haven't found any other piece of gear in their respective departments that even compares to them, in my opinion. There are just some features of each that I would like to remove because I never, ever use them, or there are some that need to be added (two filters for four channels = gay). Plus I think it'd be fun to tear all of my equipment apart and re-build it to how I think it should've been built in the first place.

*shrug*


Posted by jupiterone on Apr-08-2007 22:23:

Makes me wish I was the one that won that 110,000,000$ jackpot lottery.

I just wanted to buy a couple UC-33e's and a couple CME bitstreams and mess with them. I don't really need such a complicated deck, I just would need a lot of buttons and faders. I realized after getting a lot more knowledge in Ableton, I need more faders and knobs with my Xone:3D.

Thats why I was first interested in building my own controller out of other controllers.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Apr-08-2007 23:30:

sexay controllers


Posted by Ryan0751 on Apr-09-2007 17:08:

You can add the new Xone 1D or 2D to your setup for more controls...

The 2D should be available soon, the 1D at the end of the summer I think.

My guess is these combined with the 3D is the result of the research they accomplished with the CTRL-92.

Integrating MIDI with the mixer portion just doesn't work, look at anyone who's trying to use the DJM-800 for ableton control, it's just not ideal.

Keep the MIDI and the mixer separate. That's what the 3D does (even if it's in the same box). Sasha does the same thing with his Maven.

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
Makes me wish I was the one that won that 110,000,000$ jackpot lottery.

I just wanted to buy a couple UC-33e's and a couple CME bitstreams and mess with them. I don't really need such a complicated deck, I just would need a lot of buttons and faders. I realized after getting a lot more knowledge in Ableton, I need more faders and knobs with my Xone:3D.

Thats why I was first interested in building my own controller out of other controllers.


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