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Posted by rubez on Apr-08-2007 09:07:

.p5p pro53 supersaw

does anyone that uses pro53 have a .p5p saved editbuffer file that is set as a good supersaw? there is a guide on trance.nu but unless u know all the terms it is too hard to follow..

thanks


Posted by DeZmA on Apr-08-2007 09:38:

I don't have pro 53 but I understand the tutorial so what are you talking about?


Posted by rubez on Apr-08-2007 10:27:

i just dont understand most of it. hes talking from a point of someone who has been using it for a while


Posted by 3rd Signal on Apr-08-2007 11:28:

quote:
Originally posted by rubez
i just dont understand most of it. hes talking from a point of someone who has been using it for a while


you want me to make one?


Posted by rubez on Apr-08-2007 11:33:

quote:
Originally posted by 3rd Signal
you want me to make one?


that would be great thanks.

if u can make a screenshot also and edit with paint to highlight whats what. cheers


Posted by 3rd Signal on Apr-08-2007 12:30:

Well I made it in a sec and it basicly sound like it, but tell me if that's what you were after and what sequencer are you using so I could send you the files and then explain what I've done.
The sample - [[ LINK REMOVED ]]


Posted by rubez on Apr-08-2007 13:04:

yeah something like that

im using fl6 producer


Posted by 3rd Signal on Apr-08-2007 13:15:

oi... a bit of a problem I'd say. Well, anyway, MSN you got so I could explain it?


Posted by asdfg on Apr-08-2007 17:05:

that supersaw sounds like shit


Posted by Storyteller on Apr-08-2007 17:13:

That's not very nice. At least he is taking the effort of helping out a fellow musician.


Posted by rubez on Apr-08-2007 17:37:

quote:
Originally posted by asdfg
that supersaw sounds like shit



its decent,
can u do any better like?


Posted by eee.ddd.y on Apr-08-2007 17:47:

i dont understand where this p5p file is??is it online??


Posted by asdfg on Apr-08-2007 18:36:

[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


Posted by 3rd Signal on Apr-08-2007 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by asdfg
that supersaw sounds like shit


It's nice to be talking... Start using synths and quit bullshiting my head ok prick?

-Edit-

WOW! Very nice lead... Well not really, I don't see what you found in your lead since it got hardly any crispiness only an envlope with a bit more decay.


Posted by DJREMIDI on Apr-08-2007 21:26:

My turn!

First of all, Pro-53 is not a very good synth for SuperSaw sounds because once you enable unison your polyphony is limited to 1 voice, thus, no chords. So, if you want to play chords you will need a synth that is equipped with a polyphonic unison or a synth that has a SuperSaw (clone) oscillator (like z3ta). If you are limited to just using Pro-53 then you can either use just the two Saw oscillators with some chorus, but the sound will not be as thick and heavy, or you can enable unison and create a very thick lead sound, but only be limited to playing monophonic melodies. That being said, here's what I did with two oscillators and no unison effect (delay is external since I'm using built-in delay effect for chorus). No EQ or other effects were used:

Pro-53 Lead

EDIT:

Here's the same sound with some EQ and reverb:

Pro-53 Lead EQ


Posted by Eldritch on Apr-09-2007 07:21:

quote:
Originally posted by DJREMIDI
My turn!

First of all, Pro-53 is not a very good synth for SuperSaw sounds because once you enable unison your polyphony is limited to 1 voice, thus, no chords. So, if you want to play chords you will need a synth that is equipped with a polyphonic unison or a synth that has a SuperSaw (clone) oscillator (like z3ta). If you are limited to just using Pro-53 then you can either use just the two Saw oscillators with some chorus, but the sound will not be as thick and heavy, or you can enable unison and create a very thick lead sound, but only be limited to playing monophonic melodies. That being said, here's what I did with two oscillators and no unison effect (delay is external since I'm using built-in delay effect for chorus). No EQ or other effects were used:

Pro-53 Lead

EDIT:

Here's the same sound with some EQ and reverb:

Pro-53 Lead EQ


Agreed, Pro53 is not suitable for supersaws. Good sound with only 2 oscs. Although you can tell that there's chorus on it.

One of the better synths for supersaws is Synth1. It has both a supersaw osc and unison (It's polyphonic!). Sadly the oscillator doesn't have the same sound as the JP, but it can be tweaked with EQ to sound really close.
I will post some patches when I get home.


Posted by DeZmA on Apr-09-2007 07:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch
Agreed, Pro53 is not suitable for supersaws. Good sound with only 2 oscs. Although you can tell that there's chorus on it.

One of the better synths for supersaws is Synth1. It has both a supersaw osc and unison (It's polyphonic!). Sadly the oscillator doesn't have the same sound as the JP, but it can be tweaked with EQ to sound really close.
I will post some patches when I get home.


Agreed, synth1 can make a convincing supersaw.
There's some synth1 patches on my homepage, including supersaws. www.dezma.be


Posted by 3rd Signal on Apr-09-2007 09:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch
Agreed, Pro53 is not suitable for supersaws. Good sound with only 2 oscs. Although you can tell that there's chorus on it.

One of the better synths for supersaws is Synth1. It has both a supersaw osc and unison (It's polyphonic!). Sadly the oscillator doesn't have the same sound as the JP, but it can be tweaked with EQ to sound really close.
I will post some patches when I get home.


I know that's why I used 3 instances with 10 voices each, so I'd get a similer sound, not a full emu but something reminding.
I rather make supersaws with Zeta, Reaktor, Vaz, Moog, etc or just use my JP8080.


Posted by iast on Apr-09-2007 09:23:

I make my supersaws by layering Korg Legacy, Z3TA, and V-Station. It's computer heavy but it sounds nice.

I tried pro 53 at a friend's place. It's not very good as it was said before you can't do chords on it.


Posted by rubez on Apr-09-2007 13:11:

i got synth1 installed but how do u get the cygnus x superstring effect? i got the 15 dezma soundbanks but not the ones that came with it, i tried moving them to a differnt folder but cant get them. anyway what prestet should i use and what settings on synth1

could someone take a screenshot of their synth1 gui with all the settings correct for this effect and upload or send it? thanks


Posted by DeZmA on Apr-09-2007 15:50:

what do you mean? The standard patches are in the first bank, you just install my patches in the soundbank directory you want like soundbank01 dir. The pad should be kinda close to the cygnus x sound with some envelope tweaking.


Posted by rubez on Apr-09-2007 17:04:

what is the pad called?


Posted by Eldritch on Apr-09-2007 17:29:

Here's the Synth1 patch I promised to upload.

[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


You could put some additional VST EQ on it to make the high freqs hiss more.


Posted by rubez on Apr-09-2007 17:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch
Here's the Synth1 patch I promised to upload.

[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


You could put some additional VST EQ on it to make the high freqs hiss more.


try to download it its all binary code not a downloadable preset


Posted by Eldritch on Apr-09-2007 17:53:

Use save as... and put it in a free synth1 soundbank.
(For example C:\Program Files\Synth1\soundbank05\)


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