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Posted by Krypton on Apr-08-2007 17:11:

Easter

The most important holiday of Christendom. God bless you all whatever your affiliation.

Posted by Q5echo on Apr-08-2007 20:06:

thank you. God bless you.

Posted by Lilith on Apr-08-2007 20:43:

Posted by spiflicated on Apr-08-2007 20:45:

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Originally posted by Krypton
The most important holiday of Christendom.

Not if I don't get a day off.

Posted by jonSun on Apr-08-2007 20:59:

Cheers!

Posted by Shakka on Apr-08-2007 23:31:

Re: Re: Easter

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Originally posted by spiflicated
Not if I don't get a day off.

I got the day off, along with millions of others. However, I know there are many who don't get the day off, and to them I say, suck it bitches!

I think there should be a poll of how many people take the day off for Good Friday vs. how many take the day off for MLK Day.

Posted by Marc Summers on Apr-08-2007 23:31:

I had delicious foods today and watched tiger woods lose his confidence.

Posted by shaolin_Z on Apr-09-2007 01:45:

Re: Easter

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Originally posted by Krypton
The most important holiday of Christendom. God bless you all whatever your affiliation.

Easter is a pagan religious holiday following the Spring Equinox, there's nothing Christian about it. Eostre (or Eastre), the name being derived from the word for spring, was the great mother goddess of the Saxons in Northern Europe. It a fertility ritual. which is where you get those eggs from.

Posted by EgosXII on Apr-09-2007 01:53:

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Posted by shaolin_Z on Apr-09-2007 01:57:

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Originally posted by EgosXII
and the rabbit, since both the rabbit and egg clearly stand for fertility:

but who cares? people can believe what they want, just like you can believe that: we know both things (equinox & the crucifixion) due to ancient texts...

I'm just pointing out that's it's incorrect to call it a "Christian" holiday, that's all.

Posted by NeoPhono on Apr-09-2007 02:01:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Easter is a pagan religious holiday following the Spring Equinox, there's nothing Christian about it. Eostre (or Eastre), the name being derived from the word for spring, was the great mother goddess of the Saxons in Northern Europe. It a fertility ritual. which is where you get those eggs from.

I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to prove. A holiday has as much meaning as what you put into it. If you celebrate easter as a Christian holiday, then that is exactly what it is. What the day was before it was celebrated as easter has nothing to do with what is being observed now.

July 4th, 836 was Pactum Sicardi, designating peace between the Principality of Benevento and the Duchy of Naples. Does that mean Americans aren't really celebrating their independence on the July 4th holiday? May 1st (May Day) has all sorts of different meanings to different people.

In the end a holiday is what you see it as, not what it is seen as by others or by those in the past.

Posted by shaolin_Z on Apr-09-2007 02:08:

Well, I wasn't necessarily trying to "prove" anything, but it should be obvious from my previous post.

Posted by shaolin_Z on Apr-09-2007 05:49:

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Originally posted by NeoPhono
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to prove. A holiday has as much meaning as what you put into it. If you celebrate easter as a Christian holiday, then that is exactly what it is. What the day was before it was celebrated as easter has nothing to do with what is being observed now.

July 4th, 836 was Pactum Sicardi, designating peace between the Principality of Benevento and the Duchy of Naples. Does that mean Americans aren't really celebrating their independence on the July 4th holiday? May 1st (May Day) has all sorts of different meanings to different people.

In the end a holiday is what you see it as, not what it is seen as by others or by those in the past.

Right, and Pactum Sicardi wasn't assimilated into "Americanism" to make "Americanism" more marketable and easier to 'accept' for the original European colonists. So, no offense, but your logic is absolutely flawed and ridiculous. That analogy doesn't hold any water.

EDIT: Spelling.

Posted by LazFX on Apr-09-2007 06:28:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Right, and Pactum Sicardi wasn't assimilated into "Americanism" to make "Americanism" more marketable and easier to 'accept' for the original European colonists. So, no offense, but your logic is absolutely flawed and ridiculous. That analogy doesn't hold any water.

EDIT: Spelling.

and your religion was started by a raving mad man so whats your point??? This thread started out as Happy Holiday Thread and you come in with your anti-christian/anti american B.S. No one asked about the start of Easter or if it was christian, so take your wares and peddle them some where else ....

Posted by shaolin_Z on Apr-09-2007 06:39:

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Originally posted by LazFX
and your religion was started by a raving mad man so whats your point??? This thread started out as Happy Holiday Thread and you come in with your anti-christian/anti american B.S. No one asked about the start of Easter or if it was christian, so take your wares and peddle them some where else burn boy ....

LOL, no you fucking idiot. There's nothing "anti-American" or "anti-Christian" about what I just said. Infact, it was something pointed out to me by Christians who actually know what the fuck they're talking about unlike an ignorant fool such as yourself. So you can cram your simplistic jock take on this up your ass dickhead. Now go fuck yourself .

Posted by LazFX on Apr-09-2007 06:46:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
LOL, no you fucking idiot. There's nothing "anti-American" or "anti-Christian" about what I just said, infact, it was something pointed out to me by Christians who actually know what the fuck they're talking about unlike an ignorant fool such as yourself. So you can cram your simplistic jock take on this up your ass dickhead. Now go fuck yourself .

simplistic jock take??? oh I like that... really I do..... you are so educated and so well rounded...and you speak so well too!

Posted by shaolin_Z on Apr-09-2007 06:59:

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Originally posted by LazFX
simplistic jock take??? oh I like that... really I do..... you are so educated and so well rounded...and you speak so well too!

LOL, stop verbalizing and making idiotic assumptions, and stop messing with me all the time and I'll have no reason to treat you harshly. At this point, you deserve it so it doesn't really bother my conscience.

Posted by LazFX on Apr-09-2007 07:02:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
LOL, stop verbalizing and making idiotic assumptions, and stop messing with me all the time and I'll have no reason to treat you harshly. At this point, you deserve it so it doesn't really bother my conscience.

geeee thanks dad. can I use the car tonight??

Posted by shaolin_Z on Apr-09-2007 07:15:

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Originally posted by LazFX
geeee thanks dad. can I use the car tonight??

LOL. my car got wrecked, engine locked, and stereo jacked. So no! But I do have a Honda CB600F now if you've got a licsence for a bike son .

Posted by NeoPhono on Apr-09-2007 13:03:

Actually, Christian holidays appearing on old Pagan days were not to make them more palatable or accepted, but to allow them to be celebrated in the first place. "Back in the day," when Christianity first started, they were persecuted severely for their beliefs. They realized that if they chose to celebrate on days already being celebrated by the masses, they would be able to "blend in" much better while still celebrating their own beliefs. The original thought behind celebrating Christian holidays on Pagan ones was exactly the opposite of making them more mainstream, it was to keep Christian holidays as low key as possible.

Posted by spiflicated on Apr-09-2007 15:09:

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Originally posted by Shakka
I got the day off, along with millions of others. However, I know there are many who don't get the day off, and to them I say, suck it bitches!

I think there should be a poll of how many people take the day off for Good Friday vs. how many take the day off for MLK Day.

I don't get MLK Day off either. Sucks!

Posted by M.Johan on Apr-09-2007 18:35:

Cheers to everyone

Posted by shaolin_Z on Apr-09-2007 23:29:

quote:
Originally posted by NeoPhono
Actually, Christian holidays appearing on old Pagan days were not to make them more palatable or accepted, but to allow them to be celebrated in the first place. "Back in the day," when Christianity first started, they were persecuted severely for their beliefs. They realized that if they chose to celebrate on days already being celebrated by the masses, they would be able to "blend in" much better while still celebrating their own beliefs. The original thought behind celebrating Christian holidays on Pagan ones was exactly the opposite of making them more mainstream, it was to keep Christian holidays as low key as possible.

Now that's a good argument, not that I agree with it. But I hope I didn't rub you the wrong way Neo .

Posted by NeoPhono on Apr-10-2007 00:15:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Now that's a good argument, not that I agree with it. But I hope I didn't rub you the wrong way Neo .

Nah...you didn't. I honestly don't care one way or the other as far as holidays go. I just thought I'd bring in another view on the correlation between past and present holidays.

Posted by Krypton on Apr-12-2007 03:33:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I'm just pointing out that's it's incorrect to call it a "Christian" holiday, that's all.

Easter, though its origins may be pagan, is a Christian holiday. Nobody knows the exact day of Jesus resurrection. Easter was chosen to serve as the day to celebrate the most important event in Christianity. So it is Christian.

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