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Posted by echosystm on Apr-10-2007 04:11:

PCI phase out

When do you think PCI will be completely phased out? Any estimates?

I'm about to buy a new interface. I would prefer the PCI version because its $100US cheaper, but I'm scared I wont be able to use it at all in 2 years!

Posted by DJSentinel on Apr-10-2007 04:30:

PCI right now is the fastest to-motherboard bus there is, so I think you will see it for many more years. It's already been here for a long time.

Posted by echosystm on Apr-10-2007 04:49:

PCIe is faster...

There are some motherboards out there with only 1 PCI slot now days. I get the feeling i'll be boned in 12 months.

Posted by thecYrus on Apr-10-2007 06:25:

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Originally posted by echosystm
PCIe is faster...

There are some motherboards out there with only 1 PCI slot now days. I get the feeling i'll be boned in 12 months.

i've the same feeling. it was already very hard to get a proper mainboard with 3 pci-slots 18 months ago.

Posted by DJSentinel on Apr-10-2007 12:20:

quote:
Originally posted by thecYrus
i've the same feeling. it was already very hard to get a proper mainboard with 3 pci-slots 18 months ago.

lol sorry, I was assuming PCI / PCIe in the same family. Yeah do not get a "PCI" as it WILL be phased out. PCIe, obviously, is the better choice, even if it will cost you a bit more.

Posted by Centra Spike on Apr-10-2007 12:30:

You can buy converters that let you run PCI cards in PCIex1 slots.

Posted by echosystm on Apr-10-2007 13:02:

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Originally posted by Centra Spike
You can buy converters that let you run PCI cards in PCIex1 slots.

Hurray for like 100ms extra latency and even more driver problems!

Posted by DigiNut on Apr-10-2007 23:29:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Hurray for like 100ms extra latency and even more driver problems!

The latency is not going to be any higher than if you were just running it out of a regular PCI slot.

Obviously it's better to get a PCI-E card if you can, but I don't think PCI is going anywhere for a while.

Posted by thecYrus on Apr-11-2007 04:59:

intel macs don't even have/had pci slots.. RME & co also have pci-express cards. so i wouldn't stick to the old bus..

Posted by echosystm on Apr-11-2007 06:16:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
The latency is not going to be any higher than if you were just running it out of a regular PCI slot.

Obviously it's better to get a PCI-E card if you can, but I don't think PCI is going anywhere for a while.

Latency will be higher, as it will have to go through a converter and another set of drivers. 100ms was a blatant exaggeration obviously though; it could well be a negligable increase, who knows.

I still wouldn't trust a PCIX chasis though, computers have enough incompatabilities already, they're also hell expensive!
Firewire/PCIe for the win.

Posted by Agenz on Apr-11-2007 08:31:

I have three DSP cards at the moment which are all PCI so I can not afford to go the other route.

I've just ordered a new motherboard and had to get the one with 5 PCI slots on it.

I think some companies still cater for people who have expansion cards.

Posted by DigiNut on Apr-12-2007 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Latency will be higher, as it will have to go through a converter and another set of drivers. 100ms was a blatant exaggeration obviously though; it could well be a negligable increase, who knows.

Yeah, we're talking in the microsecond range here, maybe even nanoseconds if the adapter isn't synchronous. In other words you can safely ignore it.

PCI-X is more of a server thing. Most consumer cards are PCI-E so you're going to want to go with that.