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my unorganized collection organized
So my cd collection isnt listed alphabetically, doesnt have certain cd's to specific artists or any of that. It is literally all my tracks bunged onto a whole bunch of CD's in any order.
My question is... would putting one song (and its remixes provided) per cd and just labelling that cd be a good idea, so that I wont have to squint at tiny lists written for the cd's I have right now?
Let me know if this particular way of doing it works for you, because I have a lot of individual releases so trying to put cd's loaded with one artist would be pointless. thanks in advance,
Loz
1 track per CD is what I do. It's a pain to burn all the CDs individually (especially when you've got a burner that only works 1/3rd of the time), but it makes it much easier to organise.
As I'm sure countless other will eventually suggest, burn as many tracks as you can fit on a disc, then burn two copies.
Burning one to a disc is an utter waste.
It's really up to preference. I burn multiple tracks onto a CD, and organize the tracks on the CD alphabetically by title. Then I print out the tracklistings, and "code" each CD. When I play live, I look through my print outs for the track I want, then match up the "code" of the list and the CD. I can look very quickly because all of the listings are alphabetical, and once I find what I want I know exactly where it is (my binder is in order by code, with MD01 for example being first, and so on).
My system works for me, but it probably won't be comfortable for many other DJs (I coped my whole system from a local Top40 DJ who had to manage dozens on Promo Only songs every month, so this came easily to me).In short, figure out what works for you!
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cheers morello, I think im going to have a crack at 1 track (plus remixes) per cd and see how that goes, btu some people have spoken about labelling their tracks by what key they are in... how do I determine what key a particular track is in?
and and and... sorry... how do I ID3 tag when I'm burning the tracks
i started off doing 2 tracks per cd with keys whose roots one semitone apart.
after enough tracks and playing out with cds (i used to use records + serato) i found that it was a horrendous experience to be flipping endlessly through a binder and squinting in dark conditions looking for a track. sometimes you lose all of your ability to interact the crowd when you're desperate to find that one track that will fit the moment. i usually have a more specialized pool of tracks prepared for important gigs, but that's not always enough.
what i do instead now is burn 9-10 tracks per CDx2, labelled simply 'A, B, C, AA, BB', etc
in the front of my binder i have two indices. one is sorted by key around the circle of fifths and then by bpm, the other simply lists the cd contents. 8 binder pages for example then contain 32 pairs of cds of 9-10 tracks... so to find one track out of 310 or so, you merely know what key/bpm you're in, which i put in brackets in front of all my track names (key by ear, bpm using ableton's warping to check), have an idea of where you are going key and tempo-wise, and then just pull out a cd with a huge C on it or an L. all my cds are themed in my head, so for instance, C is something like 'tripped out deep progressive rainforest house" or G is something like 'dark afterhours neo-acid'...this just helps me pull the right cd instinctively.
so summary - i still have half of my tracks done 2 per cd and i can't stand it anymore because it hurts my freedom to keep tracks mixed in for 2-3 minutes, since i have to be looking longer, and hurts my freedom to interact the crowd and keep loose and sensitive. eventually all my tracks will be under the index system, and eventually i will have memorized the exact tracklists of each. I only started this system a week and a half ago and i have about half memorized.
use nero for tagging your burned cds. as i said my tracks usually look like:
[F#m] [126] Alex Smoke - Never Want To See You Again (SLAM Remix AV Edit)
camelot is a waste. you can memorize the circle of fifths in like 10 minutes if you actually try
so if i have any doubt when i am selecting another track it's right on my cdj. i beatmatch quickly and layer tracks by relying on rules of thumb and simple mathematics about pitch shift and bpm, so that when i push the cue button on my mixer, the next track is pretty much already there, and it's only a matter of how anal i want to be
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| Originally posted by RJT As I'm sure countless other will eventually suggest, burn as many tracks as you can fit on a disc, then burn two copies. Burning one to a disc is an utter waste. |
I have till friday to have some organization of my tracks. When burning them Im curious how to identify the key of the track, as well as how I ID3 a track when burning it, how do I go about doing that? thanks in advance 
key a track with your ears and a keyboard or get a program like rapid evolution or mixmeister which will key for you. personally i don't recommend programs, because tracks can be in ambiguous keys or fit more than one key, and i feel that when you use your ear, you don't say a song is in Bm for instance, you say it's in MY B-minor, so the sound is personally linked to you and your way of hearing music and then when you play two of your b minors together chances are it is more your sound.
so the way i key by ear is to basically play scales against the track and then mix it with previously keyed tracks to test the determined key. the best way i have found to do this is using ableton live and a simple software synthesizer. you can set up ableton to use your computer keyboard as a note-input device if you have no piano keyboard, and use the free demo of ableton if you don't want to buy it.
basically load your tracks in and warp them. then play one, and listening to the track, play a note on the keyboard which matches the pitch of a prominent note of the track. from here, it helps if you know music theory. most tracks are going to be in natural minor scales. the pattern of notes in a natural minor scale is always "whole-half-whole-whole-half-whole-whole". there are 12 possible minor keys and scales. play another note now that matches another note following. now, by process of elimination you will be able to narrow it down to only 4 or 5 scales that share these 2 notes. play another note that's part of these 4 or 5 scales and you're down to 2 -3 possible scales. eventually you will find one that seems to fit.
now, the scale always starts on a note that we call the "tonic", that is the note whose tone is the namesake of that scale. the tonic of a c minor scale is "c". the tonic note in a lot of your typical music is usually a dominant tone in the track, like the major note of a bassline or a sustained sweeping pitch or the note to which a melody comes back repeatedly. when you play the scale against the track, start on the tonic then work up in the pattern i wrote earlier. you'll hear the notes 'fit' the composition, and those that won't should be relatively obviously dissonant, that is they stick out.
to test yourself, start playing in ableton one track, then mix another one in like you were deejaying. the two should musically complement eachother. tracks that are in keys whose tonics are a fourth apart or a fifth apart (eg, C to F, C to G, D to A, D to G) also will sound complementary...
hopefully this helps. bottom line is if you don't know and don't want to learn this basic music theory, then get a program do it for you and trust the stuff it spews out.
you can ID3 tag mp3s using some burning programs like Nero.
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| Originally posted by Project-K 1 track per CD is what I do. It's a pain to burn all the CDs individually (especially when you've got a burner that only works 1/3rd of the time), but it makes it much easier to organise. |
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