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Posted by SPAWNmaster on Apr-13-2007 14:01:

CDJ 800mk2's REVIEWED! (not another ridiculous thread)

Well, like I mentioned before I finally got my pair of brand spankin new CDJ800mk2's. First of all, I want to mention that I've been thinking about it for a while and after playing with the 1000's (which were out of my price range) decided to "settle" on the 800's. I had been mixing on my 200's in 10% pitch accuracy mode to see whether adjusting from .02 to .05 would be a problem and it wasn't which was the final point in the decision to dish out for the pair.

I bought the pair from AGI which is back up and running, and ofcourse they gave me an amazing deal ($1518 for the pair and a RRCDJ12 flight coffin).

Firstly the jog dial, an absolute pleasure to work with. Personally I find it the best tension of any jog dial I've played with including the 1000mk2's which it's supposed to be modelled after (but that could just be my perception). The pitch slider is the same length as the 1000's and 200's and I therefore didn't have any problems adjusting the pitch.

My initial impressions after getting everything rigged up was simply WOW. The vinyl mode on the mk2's offers everything CDJ mode has with exception to stutter mode...meaning you can cue in the same way but still use the platter to manipulate the track. Probably my favorite feature right now is the quick return function which is absolutely great for mixing. I'm not a scratch DJ but I can understand why hip-hop dj's would appreciate the quick return as well. It's an amazing function and has basically replaced my "tap-cue" style of cueing.

I've only had them for about 3 days now and am thoroughly impressed in every regard for the 800mk2's. I honestly think that the 1000's and 800's are basically the same in most senses with exception to a couple of things:

1) the 800mk2 has built in memory instead of a memory card slot (the 1000's have this). up to 800 cds can store over 10 cue points for each cd (an amazing feature).

2) quick return...'nuff said

3) auto-looping...although i use my DJM800's roll sampler instead of onboard CDJ looping I can see why this would be useful to the JZ-wannabe's out there. The placement of the autolooping functions replaces where the 1000 has hot cues. You are not missing anything by not having the hot cues as you can scroll through cues memorized by the unit. Unless you are big on sampling you aren't missing out on anything. in my opinion

4) 0.05 vs .02? it's not even an issue so i'm not goign to talk about this....anyone who has a problem with this clearly CANNOT beatmatch

the display is nice and big and is layed out in a similiar way to the 1000's. No waveform but as a DJ you should know you're tracks anyways so this is not an issue (atleast not for me...).

I'm using the digital coax outputs to hook up to my djm800 and they are just as amazing in sound quality as the digital outs on my cdj200's. Now that I mention the 200's something i'd like to note: tracks I've purchase from the Vonyc store previously show up as like 54min's long my cdj200's. on the 800mk2's they actually show up as the actual track length! strange...

another thing is that anyone who has played on any pioneer CDJ will immediately be able to pick it up and just play...there's is nothing drastically changed in the design and it probably took me less than an hour or two get used to some subtle changes that come with getting new units.

I'm drawing a blank right now as to what else I noticed or liked about the 800mk2's up to this point so I'll add later if features come to mind. Feel free to ask any questions and I will be sure to answer.

I've concluded that the 800mk2's are definately worth their price tag and are built in quality and function identically to the 1000's. In fact, I have to stress that i am SO HAPPY I didn't wait longer to buy a pair of 1000mk3's as it would have been a waste of money as the 800's and 1000's are nearly identical with exception for a few minute things. the new pioneer product smell alone is worth the buy


EDIT:

Here are some pictures as promised! I'll be sure to include more later on these are preliminary with my friend's camera...(not embedded because they are large resolution).


Picture 1

Picture 2

Picture 3

Picture 4

Picture 5


I know the quality isn't great by any means but it's what I could do considering my time constraints these days.

Cheers!


Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-13-2007 14:59:

Gonna add this to the sticky


Posted by Tony Morello on Apr-13-2007 15:21:

good read, i'll have to really consider the 800 when buying my new cdjs


Posted by Orbital32 on Apr-13-2007 15:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
Gonna add this to the sticky


Its a good post, but i don't know if its sticky material.


Posted by Import on Apr-13-2007 15:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbital32
Its a good post, but i don't know if its sticky material.


I think he means to the "Read Here First: DJ Booth Information Thread (Tutorials, Advice, etc) [02/09/07] " Sticky, not a whole new sticky of its own, i think its a great idea to add more reviews to it.


Posted by sEpH on Apr-13-2007 16:12:

every CDJ800 owner will probably agree with you! I do...


Posted by djthunderbird on Apr-13-2007 16:30:

Re: CDJ 800mk2's REVIEWED! (not another ridiculous thread)

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
tracks I've purchase from the Vonyc store previously show up as like 54min's long my cdj200's. on the 800mk2's they actually show up as the actual track length! strange...

***PICS SOON****


Im not sure, but it MIGHT be because you played VBR mp3's and cdj-800 has an updated software for calculating vbr lenght.

it doesant matter, though.

Great review anyway


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Apr-13-2007 17:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
good read, i'll have to really consider the 800 when buying my new cdjs


It's always good to try before you buy with audio gear, as I'm sure you always know. Glad people enjoy the review, I'll be sure to add more as things come up, and pics soon of course.

cheers


Posted by nerdgrl416 on Apr-13-2007 17:39:

Thanks for the review! I'm almost getting to the point of outgrowing my cdj200s so this is perfect timing.


Posted by Yohan on Apr-13-2007 17:46:

Good review.

Only thing that kept me from buying 800mk2s was the wav display. I love that thing.


Posted by richg101 on Apr-13-2007 18:00:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Good review.

Only thing that kept me from buying 800mk2s was the wav display. I love that thing.


thats the only thing the 1000's really have over the 800's imo. pitch resolution different of 0.05/0.02 is not an issue imo.

good review. i might be purchasing an 800 soon.


Posted by epdarks on Apr-13-2007 18:34:

Shit, now I need to consider 800s over the 200s, damn you!


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Apr-13-2007 18:47:

if you play out or plan on playing out in clubs indoor parties the 800's would be a good investment, otherwise just go for the 200's for bedroom dj'ing. their beast of machines


Posted by miamitranceman on Apr-13-2007 21:05:

I agree with Spawn 100% and I cannot stress enough, the differences between the 800 mk2s and the 1000 mk3s, in my mind, do not justify the price difference. It's some serious chunk of change you can save with the 800s and get pretty much all the features.


Posted by 4clubber on Apr-13-2007 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by epdarks
Shit, now I need to consider 800s over the 200s, damn you!


+1 haha

I just might have to come over for a practice session sometime next fall, Andrew, and try before I buy
...seeing as you're now rocking the 4 decks

P.S. are you going to use all 4 at your party tonight? i'll try to make it there, need some release after all these f-ing prelims and projects


Posted by Omega_Blue on Apr-13-2007 22:17:

Re: CDJ 800mk2's REVIEWED! (not another ridiculous thread)

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster

4) 0.05 vs .02? it's not even an issue so i'm not goign to talk about this....anyone who has a problem with this clearly CANNOT beatmatch


+1. .02 is almost overkill/unneccessary. the only thing i like about the 1000mk3 is the pretty waveform display and the ability to play mp3. still not worth the extra cash though.


Posted by Transfusion on Apr-14-2007 00:44:

Re: Re: CDJ 800mk2's REVIEWED! (not another ridiculous thread)

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
+1. .02 is almost overkill/unneccessary. the only thing i like about the 1000mk3 is the pretty waveform display and the ability to play mp3. still not worth the extra cash though.

CDJ mk2 can also play mp3.

the 0.02% is a nice feature imo, and well yes there is a difference. With 0.05 you sometimes will have to correct, and with 0.02 you can nail the beatmatch for a very very long time ...


Posted by i got big pants on Apr-14-2007 02:03:

i somewhat got a cdj800mk2 recently...about a month or so ago...and honestly...its a beauty. i love it. it was a toss up between two cdj200s, or one cdj800. i wanted the .02 pitch on the 200s, but i didnt like the platter. what honestly sold me on the 800 was the platter...just because i liked the feel for it and had a feeling that i would end up upgrading to an 800 at some point. i simply love it though. i dont even use most of the features, but its perfect. you can't beat it. you dont need all the bells and whistles, they're nice, but not necessary.

btw...spawnmaster...make sure you have the updated firmware


Posted by miamitranceman on Apr-14-2007 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants

btw...spawnmaster...make sure you have the updated firmware



+1, Definite improvements.


Posted by minhvp on Apr-14-2007 04:22:

As another cdj-800 mk II owner. I completely agree!! You'd save 1200 bucks!!!


Posted by saltytheseagull on Apr-14-2007 05:15:

Nice review. This pretty much has sold me on picking up a pair.


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Apr-15-2007 01:21:

i actually had the latest version of the firmware when they arrived...even though Pioneer sent me a free firmware update CD lol.

By the way I got a chance to play around with a pair of 1000mk3's today and can't stress enough how I would never buy the mk3's over the 800mk2's unless they had a severe price drop. the 800's and 1000's are just so much alike. The wave form is pointless if you know what you're doing, hot cues on the 1000 are a definite advantage but the 800mk2's have quick return which is fucking amazing...these are the essential differnces which i dont think merits the purchase of the 1000's but thats of course my opinion


Posted by i got big pants on Apr-15-2007 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
i actually had the latest version of the firmware when they arrived...even though Pioneer sent me a free firmware update CD lol.

By the way I got a chance to play around with a pair of 1000mk3's today and can't stress enough how I would never buy the mk3's over the 800mk2's unless they had a severe price drop. the 800's and 1000's are just so much alike. The wave form is pointless if you know what you're doing, hot cues on the 1000 are a definite advantage but the 800mk2's have quick return which is fucking amazing...these are the essential differnces which i dont think merits the purchase of the 1000's but thats of course my opinion


so true...i wouldnt mind paying an extra couple hundred more for an 800mk2, if there was no 1000...and the mk2 had all the same bells and whistles as the 1000.


Posted by nchs09 on Apr-15-2007 03:05:

ahhh how did u get a cd? i didnt, did u send in that paper it came with to pioneer?


Posted by Yohan on Apr-15-2007 03:12:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
The wave form is pointless if you know what you're doing,

I don't memorize every single tune I have lol. While most tunes do share a similar structure, some don't.

Plus I like to do long transitions whenever possible so having that wav display and see where I can fiddle diddle helps.

Also, if you just got the tune and you don't know it, the wav display helps.

The wav display makes my transition like 10x more smoother than without.


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