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Posted by Cosmic Fur on Apr-14-2007 19:33:

Not a weed-induced thread, I swear

Wouldn't it be fucking awesome if you could buy the sets the DJs played on some night directly from the club?

Like suppose you missed a really good set for one reason or another (going to see another DJ, couldn't make it at all, etc), and you go to the club next week, pay like $10 and buy the recording of the set from them. No cover art, maybe even no tracklisting, just a simple CD-R recorded straight from the mixer. It's the closest thing I can think of to being in two places at once. Plus, it would be soo fucking wicked to be able to relive some of those epic sets you hear live.

I know all the problems with this, like copyrights, DJs being bitches about their sets being recorded, etc etc, but imo this is what's holding back music - all that legal crap when all I wanna do is just hear a really good set again, or for the first time. This is why I say "wouldn't it be awesome" cause I realize there's about 0 chance of what I'm talking about actually coming to life.

P.S. This is done in other places. One Nation in UK for example has a lot of their nights recorded completely, and sold later as like 6-CD packs. It's a lot of money though. Example: http://www.catapult.co.uk/?category=15&product_type=90


Posted by me@t k@tie on Apr-14-2007 19:47:

That would be incredibly wikkid.

As you said, there would be a lot of copyright problems with this, which is a shame.

I would personally pay up to $10 for a CD to have a keepsake of an amazing night.

I would have loved it if they recorded the sets of the DJs at WODNB.


Posted by smuncky on Apr-14-2007 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by me@t k@tie
That would be incredibly wikkid.

As you said, there would be a lot of copyright problems with this, which is a shame.

I would personally pay up to $10 for a CD to have a keepsake of an amazing night.

I would have loved it if they recorded the sets of the DJs at WODNB.



hell i would pay 15$ cuz there is nothing like hearing a set over again that you heard live.

thats y i always take videos, since thats the closest thing ill have to reliving that experience.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Apr-14-2007 19:59:

that's a fantastic idea!

though I smell more piracy - people making copies and re-selling the sets for more, or just putting them online available for free (not that I would mind)

but the end result would still be great - sets in clubs could be so mind-blowing, I would love to have some of the memorable ones in my collection


Posted by Engine9 on Apr-14-2007 20:06:

would be great

more then once i wanted to keep a particular live set and it was never made available


Posted by Turntabulls on Apr-14-2007 20:08:

live sets should be given away free, never sold. they are great tools for exposure of the venue and the artist. i personally think every club should record their sets and make them availble for free download on their website. share the love and music!


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Apr-14-2007 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Turntabulls
live sets should be given away free, never sold. they are great tools for exposure of the venue and the artist. i personally think every club should record their sets and make them availble for free download on their website. share the love and music!


I agree, but at the same time, an artist should get some extra revenue if they spun a GREAT set, as many people would want to buy that set after. More of an incentive to actually try to spin a great set imo.


Posted by DarkAngel on Apr-14-2007 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I agree, but at the same time, an artist should get some extra revenue if they spun a GREAT set, as many people would want to buy that set after. More of an incentive to actually try to spin a great set imo.


I'd have to agree.


Posted by Sasha on Apr-14-2007 20:28:

they WONT BE ABLE TO SELL IT! give it away for free - yes, but not sell it! do u know how much time it takes to deal with all that copyright BS?


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Apr-14-2007 20:35:

Fuck I wish I could find the article. I actually read in DJ Mag about how Sasha (I think) was doing that. Not in 6 packs though. They would have the CDs ready by the end of the night usually and sell them for like 10 bucks.


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Apr-14-2007 20:39:

Found the article

Sasha Makes History


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Apr-14-2007 20:58:

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Found the article

Sasha Makes History


So what happened with that? Was it a success/failure?


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Apr-14-2007 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
So what happened with that? Was it a success/failure?


To be completely honest I never followed up. There may be a follow up article in the DJ mag archives


Posted by GDancer on Apr-14-2007 21:29:

Sweet concept.

I have been to many shows in Toronto and abroad that sell the live recorded show, for pickup at the end of the night, for usually $10.

They record direct from the soundboard and then mass duplicate on the spot.


Posted by GDancer on Apr-14-2007 21:29:

Woops...looks like I stole your signature text Lisa


Posted by musicsnob_NOT on Apr-14-2007 21:31:

Pearl Jam also did this a while back - you could buy their live recording from their concert that night.


Posted by kotsy on Apr-14-2007 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Found the article

Sasha Makes History


That's friggin' awesome. I've to see that in Toronto with residents and special guests alike.

Hullabaloo recently did a similar deal.. releasing all their recorded sets from each event. I know it's not on the same night as the event, but it's still pretty awesome.

quote:
Originally posted http://www.hulla.info/board/showthr...?threadid=22526

Announcing the Hullabaloo Complete Archival Project

Featuring the online release of EVERY recorded Hullabaloo set!

Yes, you read correctly, we're releasing EVERY live set we have from Hullabaloo! The Hulla tape library is one of the biggest rave tape libraries in existance, and a virtual history of hardcore raving in North America!

Due to bandwidth constraints we will be releasing a new mix once a week, starting with the oldest. You're going to be able to follow the emergence of Hullabaloo and happy hardcore set by set, party to party. Every set is historical in some way, and most of these sets feature the north american debut of virtually every happy hardcore song you can think of. Most of the visiting UK DJs made their north american debut at Hulla as well, so you'll be hearing a lot of first times.

I'll not only be releasing every set that was previously released through the HullaStore, but as well as any sets that never saw a CD/tape release previously. As long as we have it captured somewhere, it will make it online. Most of our library is hardcore related, but we also have our 2nd Arena headliners recorded featuring trance and hardhouse.

This is all part of a larger more complete archival project. In the coming months we will be posting EVERY picture in my archives from Hulla, as well as encoding video clips. The result will be a complete archive of one of the most important rave movements, online forever for future generations to enjoy and learn from. It was a special time for all of us who were there, and now those nights will live on forever.

A link for each mix will be posted in the new Hulla Recordings forum. People can respond to each thread with their comments or track IDs. I'll also write up a little blurb going over a little of the history of each set.

When this is done, hundreds of hours of live recordings will be here. What's exciting about having this library is that all these parties can be relived forever, instead of forgotten once the sun came up. It was a time when giants walked the earth and we can go back whenever we want.


Posted by geroin on Apr-14-2007 23:06:

sashas live recording was pretty much a one time thing cuz he never did it again.. i grabbed that cd and i dunno, didnt like it too much


Posted by RobotHouse on Apr-14-2007 23:39:

i like downloading a lot more than i like taking risks with pirated burned copies. cool idea, but i think the days of selling music out of the back of a car outside a venue are long dead.


Posted by Porky on Apr-14-2007 23:44:

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Found the article

Sasha Makes History



very interesting... if i'm told that liveset copies are available for dj shows that i attend, i would definitely be interested in paying for a copy of the show that night.

and an exclusive sasha liveset copy? nice! sexytime!


Posted by Cribby on Apr-15-2007 01:13:

I wish they'd do that, although I'm thankful that some of my favourite sets were recorded: Sander @ System, Lee Burridge @ FW, Adam Beyer @ 99...If only Satoshi's set was recorded too.


Posted by Truepioneer on Apr-15-2007 01:15:

Re: Not a weed-induced thread, I swear

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Wouldn't it be fucking awesome if you could buy the sets the DJs played on some night directly from the club?

Like suppose you missed a really good set for one reason or another (going to see another DJ, couldn't make it at all, etc), and you go to the club next week, pay like $10 and buy the recording of the set from them. No cover art, maybe even no tracklisting, just a simple CD-R recorded straight from the mixer. It's the closest thing I can think of to being in two places at once. Plus, it would be soo fucking wicked to be able to relive some of those epic sets you hear live.

I know all the problems with this, like copyrights, DJs being bitches about their sets being recorded, etc etc, but imo this is what's holding back music - all that legal crap when all I wanna do is just hear a really good set again, or for the first time. This is why I say "wouldn't it be awesome" cause I realize there's about 0 chance of what I'm talking about actually coming to life.

P.S. This is done in other places. One Nation in UK for example has a lot of their nights recorded completely, and sold later as like 6-CD packs. It's a lot of money though. Example: http://www.catapult.co.uk/?category=15&product_type=90


Those One Nation tape sets are the boom shit!


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Apr-15-2007 20:02:

I think a big reason why DJs won't agree to this is that it will really separate those that hone their craft, and those who are just there to get paid. It's one thing to hear a set in the club, and another when you're at home and are actually paying attention to how the set is structured, and how the DJ carries it there. It'll expose too many DJs who can't mix for shit because you'll have concrete examples of him fucking up throughout the set.


Posted by Cro_Addict on Apr-15-2007 20:51:

they should give it away for free.

or charge just for the actual cd-r ..so like maybe $0.25 thats it


Posted by nusty on Apr-15-2007 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Fuck I wish I could find the article. I actually read in DJ Mag about how Sasha (I think) was doing that. Not in 6 packs though. They would have the CDs ready by the end of the night usually and sell them for like 10 bucks.


I bought a few of his sets that were recorded from Avalon Los Angeles this past summer while I was in living in LA. paid about 10-15 bucks a piece. I was not able to find the same recordings elsewhere though.


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