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Do you even need a mixer if your going to DJ with Ableton?

I mean seriously, you can probably just set the whole playlist setup at home plug it in the PA and go for a shit while it plays everything for you....your just there to make sure the computer works...am I missing something?

You should at least have a MIDI Controller of sometype. I mean pointing and clicking is fine, but a part of DJing is having a hands on feel, not just pointing on a screen with a mouse. You don't need a DJ style mixer, but like I said, at least some type of external audio controller. Don't use Ableton but i've read about it and seen demonstrations of it and DJs use it, and it just seems to be make more sense to use a MIDI controller.

Re: Do you even need a mixer if your going to DJ with Ableton?

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Originally posted by blinky13 I mean seriously, you can probably just set the whole playlist setup at home plug it in the PA and go for a shit while it plays everything for you....your just there to make sure the computer works...am I missing something?

LOL

1) Ableton does one thing for you, match the kick drums. (AKA Beatmatching)

2) It Does not phrase for you.

3) It does not EQ for you.

4) It does not fade tracks in for you.

5) It does not fade tracks out for you.

6) It does not mix for you.

7) You need either a MIDI controller or 3, or a conventional DJ mixer + a Soundcard to control Ableton.

8) You are missing EVERYTHING.

Wow, tranceaddict in training, probably an alt

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Originally posted by Alex Wow, tranceaddict in training, probably an alt

It all comes with time man. Plenty of time.

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Originally posted by Alex Wow, tranceaddict in training, probably an alt

What is an alt?


Mike

Alternate account, people make them and then post stupid questions like the one in this thread to piss people off.

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Originally posted by Alex Alternate account, people make them and then post stupid questions like the one in this thread to piss people off.

Oh, I see. Thanks. I have always been wondering what the hell that meant.

You can use vinyl, record a mix and then let it play.

You can burn a pre-recorded set from you CDJs onto one CD, then let it play on one CDJ.

A live band can play their studio engineered album to the audience while they smoke some weed and do coccaine backstage.

What's your point?

Re: Re: Do you even need a mixer if your going to DJ with Ableton?

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Originally posted by Alex 2) It Does not phrase for you.

not so true as you might think

if you set the global quantization to 4 bars, it can kinda "phrase" for you...

at least it'll be easier to phrase correctly...I sometimes do that when I play from a laptop that has high latency...

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From the sounds of it this guy wouldn't know what quantization means

Besides if you're using a half decent machine just phrase the old fashioned way, works perfectly every time if you know your stuff!

Re: Do you even need a mixer if your going to DJ with Ableton?

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Originally posted by blinky13 I mean seriously, you can probably just set the whole playlist setup at home plug it in the PA and go for a shit while it plays everything for you....your just there to make sure the computer works...am I missing something?

YES

YOU SUMMED UP EVERY QUESTION I EVER HAD ABOUT ABLETON INTO ONE RUN ON SENTENCE!!!

Re: Re: Do you even need a mixer if your going to DJ with Ableton?

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Originally posted by Marcus007 YES YOU SUMMED UP EVERY QUESTION I EVER HAD ABOUT ABLETON INTO ONE RUN ON SENTENCE!!!

YOU'VE USED IT ONCE YOU IDIOT! TALKING IN CAPS MEANS I YELL AT CATS

It doesnt do anything other than sync bpm up.

That is it. Everything else takes brainwork and work itself.

If you're thinking of doing that, then just load up a ableton set thats been recorded already and just press play and pretend you're mixing.

i hate these threads...

honestly when you think about it since all the warping is done by you, the DJ then ableton isn't doing anything before you (as you've done all the beatmatching beforehand)...thats how i like to look at it.

If you use Ableton like a total tool, then yeah it sucks. But you can use it to do some really different stuff on the fly that you simply can't do with vinyl or CDJ's. Try breaking a track into several segments that you can loop, layer, build-up, and break-down on the fly. Hell, if you're feeling a little adventureous, you could even try throw in an acapella or DJ Tool-type file and do some cool looping with that. If you do it right, you can end up with a super dubby, really original-sounding set no one would ever be albe to replicate. Welcome to the world of real-time remixing.

To try this out, I'd recommend downloading (legally, of course) Robbie Rivera - Float Away (Dub Mix). That's a pretty easy track to re-edit on the fly. Break that into a ton of loops and see how easy it is create a quality re-edit. Throw on some delay effencts to f*ck with the beats some.

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Originally posted by DJChrisB If you use Ableton like a total tool, then yeah it sucks. But you can use it to do some really different stuff on the fly that you simply can't do with vinyl or CDJ's. Try breaking a track into several segments that you can loop, layer, build-up, and break-down on the fly. Hell, if you're feeling a little adventureous, you could even try throw in an acapella or DJ Tool-type file and do some cool looping with that. If you do it right, you can end up with a super dubby, really original-sounding set no one would ever be albe to replicate. Welcome to the world of real-time remixing. To try this out, I'd recommend downloading (legally, of course) Robbie Rivera - Float Away (Dub Mix). That's a pretty easy track to re-edit on the fly. Break that into a ton of loops and see how easy it is create a quality re-edit. Throw on some delay effencts to f*ck with the beats some.

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