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DJ problem.Help!!!

So i've recently started collecting vinyl.I will hopefully soon start practicing on a regular basis.Yeah so i buy vinyl before i even have any turntables.Very smart yes i know. But see i love trance.Mainly older trance.Like old Oakenfold an such.But recently i'm more into progressive house and such.Well actually sort of a combo of both well actually let's just say i now love everything other than happy hardcore.So my problem is i know not what vinyl to buy, because i'm like i like this but hey this won't flow in with that.So i'm kind of lost in a sea of sound not knowing what my sound is right now.For instance here is a rundown of what i have or will soon be getting in the mail.Obviously i lean in a trancy direction.

Alfa - Sacrosanct

Tiesto - Dance 4 Life

Oceanlab - Satellite (original and above and beyond remix)

PLANET PERFECTO BULLET IN THE GUN 2000- SOLAR STONE REMIX 2000 CLUB REMIX

AMOEBA ASSASSIN-ROLLERCOASTER- OAKEYS COURTYARD MIX LISTEN AND FEEL MIX

MEKKA DIAMOND BACK- ANGELES MIX AND ORIGANL MIX- PLAYED BY OAKEY

PPK RESURECTION. SPACE CLUB MIX- WELLENRAUSCH, ROBOTS MOX

TASTEXPERIENCE- HIGHLANDER ENDGAME

UTAH SAINTS LOST VAGUENESS- REMIX BY OLIVER LIEB-JOSH WINK-CENTRAL-
DEADLY AVENGER

JUNK PROJECT- REMIXES BY SOLAR STONE-MOOGWAI- JOHN FLEMMING-

SPACE MANOUVRES- STAGE ONE SOLAR STONE MIX- ORIGANAL MIX-

PERFECTO RECRODS PRESENTS- MONOBOY - THE MUSIC IN YOU

I WANT YOU . MOSHIC AND ZIDAN MIX

CHICANE- NO ORDINARY MORNING- HALCYON

CHICANE- SALTWATER

HIBERNATE- MANE SONITUS

But back to my problem i'm just wondering if this lost in your own sound development happens to everyone or at least most?

Re: DJ problem.Help!!!

The only thing I can tell you is to play what you feel. Don't worry about what flows into what, etc, that is something that takes months and sometimes years to develop. Don't worry about what genre is what, which tracks are popular or anything like that..if you go to a record store, listen to as much as you can, and decide there are 20 tracks you want to buy, try to narrow that selection down to your favorite 10 (or 5) and buy those.

Just play what you feel. If DJing felt more like a job than an enjoyable experience than it isn't worthwhile. 0.02

Re: Re: DJ problem.Help!!!

djing properly is like writing a structured essay. you gotta learn a couple things before you can start making head turning sets.

when i started i was mixing obsidian by banco de gaia (light vs pfn rmx) with riley and durrants ready for life. thats 132 mixed wit 140. the only pro dj that i kno that can KINDA pull it off is pvd. but hey come over the house n u can practice it. im finishin the floors today.

You won't learn this overnight. First get some tracks that you really like (which you have done) and work on your queuing and beat matching. It will sound really bad at first and for a long time. Once you have that down you can work on key matching and so forth. As you learn those things, you will really start to understand the sound that best suits you and what you really like. It took me over a year to really find what I enjoy most when playing. As that happens your tastes will evolve and you will seek out other sounds.

For now, just stick with the tracks that you know and like. You will not only learn what to do from those tracks, but you can also learn what not to do once you get going.

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Originally posted by djjonas You won't learn this overnight. First get some tracks that you really like (which you have done) and work on your queuing and beat matching. It will sound really bad at first and for a long time. Once you have that down you can work on key matching and so forth. As you learn those things, you will really start to understand the sound that best suits you and what you really like. It took me over a year to really find what I enjoy most when playing. As that happens your tastes will evolve and you will seek out other sounds. For now, just stick with the tracks that you know and like. You will not only learn what to do from those tracks, but you can also learn what not to do once you get going.

jonas has some good advice. the best tip i can give you is to record your stuff!!! even when it starts sounding good to you in the mix, when you play it back, you learn a lot about what you are doing wrong.

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Originally posted by Dirk W. jonas has some good advice. the best tip i can give you is to record your stuff!!! even when it starts sounding good to you in the mix, when you play it back, you learn a lot about what you are doing wrong.

Ah, that made me think of the other thing. Find peoples mixes on here and listen to them. Try to find the ones with track lists. I don't know why that helped me so much. But to just listen and listen more until I almost was sick of it really helped. Don't just go out to one of the internet stations and listen to mixes where you don't know what tracks they are playing.

It's been posted before, but I highly recomend this book:

http://www.amazon.com/How-DJ-Right-...76908904&sr=8-1


It won't make anyone a superstar dj but its useful for anyone wishing to learn the craft or improve upon what they already know.

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It's been posted before, but I highly recomend this book: http://www.amazon.com/How-DJ-Right-...76908904&sr=8-1 It won't make anyone a superstar dj but its useful for anyone wishing to learn the craft or improve upon what they already know.

I remember asking these questions over a year and a half ago. I took Matt's advise and read the book. It helped me with the theory and visualization of matching beats.

Jonas gave great advise too.

My .02 cents, Practice, Practice, Practice!

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Originally posted by Ph03n1x My .02 cents, Practice, Practice, Practice!

That's the key. Stick with it, stay dedicated, and you'll get better than you originally thought.

Don't buy anything unless you can't live without it...

Vinyl is too damn expensive.

Like Matt said, play what you feel RIGHT NOW and don't be concerned with trying to fit a mold. Your sound will shine through in time.

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Originally posted by davemolina Don't buy anything unless you can't live without it... Vinyl is too damn expensive. Like Matt said, play what you feel RIGHT NOW and don't be concerned with trying to fit a mold. Your sound will shine through in time.

But how am i gonna practice if i don't buy a bunch of vinyl.I don't wanna wait until i can buy some cdjs.Plus i wanna learn on vinyl turntables.

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Originally posted by Surfmorworkless But how am i gonna practice if i don't buy a bunch of vinyl.I don't wanna wait until i can buy some cdjs.Plus i wanna learn on vinyl turntables.

Ahhhh Youth! How I miss it...

Look take all the advice here on the board and then make your own groove. So many Djs these years want to sound like this and or that Dj. Over the past 15years or so, I have dabbled in House, Trance, Tribal, Jungle, Trip Hop, Top 40, 2-step, Deep House even Industrial Dance and such. The mixes of mine you listened to the other day shows you what a Dj HAS to Do for a gig, Mine was a Top 40 Radio show and a Mainstream Dance Club and in order to earn I had to play what people wanted. I hated my self every time I played a focking remix of Pink or Britny Spears remix by Thunderpuss.... but it kept me going and plus all the free vinyl one can get for doing a steady gig with a radio station is SWEET!
You just can't expect to bust out and be a badd ass on day one. Learning the lost art of Dj is a long and life long lesson. I know I might get bitched at and even flamed, (especially here in the TATX sections, but continue getting the vinyl....CDs and MP3 Laptop Djing will not teach the art. Yes you can get the basics, it easier on the load and there are some kick ass things you can do with CDs that you can't do with Vinyl.
You have to learn the basic concepts....save a little at a time and get to know other Djs. Do not bother them but just watch and listen to how they mix in and out, listen to the break downs of each track you get. I know it sounds corny, but FEEL THE MUSIC! Allot of Djs, especially the young uns, do not LISTEN to the music, they do not listen to what the artist is trying to convey....see each track as a chapter in a story you are writting in real time. Keep aware of your audience....never forget the audience, If you see no one is jamming to a track you love, do not think down on them, adjust your roll and get them slamming. So many Times I have seen aspiring Djs that had the gift, but the would throw a hissy fit when the crowd was not involved with thier vibe. Not every one likes Trance or House....the object is to get to that level where people come to see you cause the know you will give them a good time! and thats what it is really all about, having a good time....
Vinyl can be expensive at times, but try to set aside at least 40-50 bucks a month, thats about 5-6 pieces of vinyl....depends on also if you import across the pond or not.
On-Vinyl shops I recomend

http://Dancerecords.com(us)
http://Kushrecords.com(us)
http://www.tweekin.com/(us)
http://www.satelliterecords.com(us)




Also just remember ......................................









waiting for Zild to call me an Old man that uses old old technology

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Originally posted by LazFX Ahhhh Youth! How I miss it... Look take all the advice here on the board and then make your own groove. So many Djs these years want to sound like this and or that Dj. Over the past 15years or so, I have dabbled in House, Trance, Tribal, Jungle, Trip Hop, Top 40, 2-step, Deep House even Industrial Dance and such. The mixes of mine you listened to the other day shows you what a Dj HAS to Do for a gig, Mine was a Top 40 Radio show and a Mainstream Dance Club and in order to earn I had to play what people wanted. I hated my self every time I played a focking remix of Pink or Britny Spears remix by Thunderpuss.... but it kept me going and plus all the free vinyl one can get for doing a steady gig with a radio station is SWEET! You just can't expect to bust out and be a badd ass on day one. Learning the lost art of Dj is a long and life long lesson. I know I might get bitched at and even flamed, (especially here in the TATX sections, but continue getting the vinyl....CDs and MP3 Laptop Djing will not teach the art. Yes you can get the basics, it easier on the load and there are some kick ass things you can do with CDs that you can't do with Vinyl. You have to learn the basic concepts....save a little at a time and get to know other Djs. Do not bother them but just watch and listen to how they mix in and out, listen to the break downs of each track you get. I know it sounds corny, but FEEL THE MUSIC! Allot of Djs, especially the young uns, do not LISTEN to the music, they do not listen to what the artist is trying to convey....see each track as a chapter in a story you are writting in real time. Keep aware of your audience....never forget the audience, If you see no one is jamming to a track you love, do not think down on them, adjust your roll and get them slamming. So many Times I have seen aspiring Djs that had the gift, but the would throw a hissy fit when the crowd was not involved with thier vibe. Not every one likes Trance or House....the object is to get to that level where people come to see you cause the know you will give them a good time! and thats what it is really all about, having a good time.... Vinyl can be expensive at times, but try to set aside at least 40-50 bucks a month, thats about 5-6 pieces of vinyl....depends on also if you import across the pond or not. On-Vinyl shops I recomend http://Dancerecords.com(us) http://Kushrecords.com(us) http://www.tweekin.com/(us) http://www.satelliterecords.com(us) Also just remember ...................................... waiting for Zild to call me an Old man that uses old old technology

Yay!!!Laz!Thanks for posting on my thread.

Thanks everyone for the advice.If there is anymore it's all very welcome.I need as much as i can get.

Just wanted to add as well:

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By choosing to like electronic music, you aligned yourself with a genre that has very little popularity here in the US. Being an intelligent person, you had to know this all going in. So it can hardly be �new� that you are having trouble getting gigs, filling venues and breaking house music to an uneducated and uninterested crowd. The bottom line is that if you are not willing to struggle through the hard times that underground music inflicts on you, then you should just go back to playing top 40 and crowd pleasing hip hop and enjoy it for what it is worth. Things would certainly be a little bit better if you lived in Chicago or NYC or San Francisco, but those cities are ULTRA COMPETITIVE and there are a million DJs that have been there as long as you have been on Earth , that are struggling to get gigs and get noticed. Just moving isn�t going to make your outlook better or get you more shows etc. Only the smallest percentage of DJs ever makes any real impact, and it is completely reasonable and understandable that you are fed up with things at the minute. But give yourself a few weeks to get away from the beats before you make any drastic decisions. We all go through our �bitter periods� as I like to call them. But if you truly love EDM for the right reasons, you will realized it doesn�t matter if anyone else likes it with you, as it is something in your soul.

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Originally posted by LazFX Just wanted to add as well:

Yes sir i'm in it for the long haul.I love electronica.I can't be me with out it.

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Originally posted by LazFX Just wanted to add as well:

Not always. I am an overnight sensation and huge in Central Africa


And remember.....

Digital is now. Vinyl is for Disco.

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Originally posted by djjonas Digital is now. Vinyl is for Disco.

Et tu, Brute?........Et tu, Brute?

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