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MANSION coming to NYC

apparently the current managment at Studio will be partnering w/ the Opium group on the new project...

Yet another "bottles & models" place in NYC. And more Tables on the dance Floor

yikes!

Celebs instead of djs will be booked.

fucking EWW.

oh, and... source?


thanx.

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Originally posted by LuNaSeA oh, and... source? thanx.

CEO of NightClubCity

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Originally posted by Scoops CEO of NightClubCity

i mean, do you have a link to another thread or news article that says it? or was it that you just spoke to the ceo?

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Originally posted by LuNaSeA i mean, do you have a link to another thread or news article that says it? or was it that you just spoke to the ceo?

spoke....

seems like my word is always question on here and in the long run, my word has been right....

not to sound conceited but i'm no slouch on the club politics around NYC and NJ

doesn't matter to me, i don't go to studio/crobar anymore anyways...

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Originally posted by Scoops spoke.... seems like my word is always question on here and in the long run, my word has been right.... not to sound conceited but i'm no slouch on the club politics around NYC and NJ

nah, it's all good. i was just curious, that's all.

i hear vegas as well...

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Posted on Wed, Apr. 18, 2007 South Beach's Opium plans Las Vegas venues BY CHRISTINA HOAG The Opium Group is venturing into Sin City. The owner of four of South Beach's hippest nightspots is investing more than $4 million in three clubs in Las Vegas, as part of the new Planet Hollywood Resort & Casino unveiled Tuesday. Opium will operate all the clubs. ''We're exporting the Miami brand,'' said Roman Jones, managing partner of Opium, which runs Opium Lounge, Mansion and Set and has plans for more locales in Miami Beach. ``We definitely want to recreate the vibe that we have.'' Opium is the latest in a wave of enterprises over the past couple of years flowing from South Florida to Vegas, whose glitz shows no signs of tarnish. Fort Lauderdale restaurateur Steve Martorano just opened a branch of his popular old-school Italian cuisine Caf� Martorano in the Rio All-Suite Hotel & Casino. And Sharif Malnik, owner of Miami Beach restaurant-club icon The Forge, is close behind, currently in the stage of market-research forays. They join Miami Beach's landmark Joe's Stone Crab restaurant, Ocean Drive magazine and a host of condo developers from throughout South Florida, including Fortune International and Turnberry Associates, that have all planted stakes in the desert city. For businesses related to entertainment, Vegas parallels South Florida in many ways -- the churning tide of tourists, the nightlife that doesn't quit, the presence of almost as many celebrities as high-wattage light bulbs. ''I saw a great synergy going back and forth between Miami and Vegas,'' said Jones, who first started looking into a Vegas venture two years ago. The first Vegas club Opium will open is Living Room, billed as a ''sexy lounge,'' followed by nightclub Priv� in September, with a third boite to debut in the fall. Malnik, for his part, called Vegas a ''tremendously hot spot'' and cites its penchant for excess as a lure for a restaurant that boasts white-gloved waiters. ''What we do is kind of over the top, and Vegas presents an interesting opportunity to be even more over the top,'' he said. ``It has that demand.'' TOURISM CONNECTIONS For upscale restaurants and entertainment spots, it can make sense to branch out to another tourism-oriented city rather than open more locations in the same market, said Alino Azevedo, hospitality group manager for Ernst & Young in Miami. Since the number of people able to afford pricey dinners is limited, the local market may not generate much growth. But a location in another tourist city could draw both new clientele and visitors familiar with the brand. ''The same kind of upscale tourists that come to Miami go to those destinations,'' he said. ``And because these restaurants are famous in Miami, tourists want to visit them if they had a good experience.'' The danger with far-flung expansion, though, is maintaining quality. ''You have to have the adequate infrastructure behind you,'' Azevedo said. ``If a consumer has a bad experience, it's damaging the brand, including the original location.'' Floridians are far from the only ones caught under the Las Vegas spell. According to a Bizjournals study, the Las Vegas area's job base has mushroomed by 5.6 percent annually since 2001. Las Vegas added 45,900 jobs last year. ''The catalyst is the casino industry. It's a great spin-off business,'' said Steve Van Gorp, redevelopment manager for the city of Las Vegas. ``It's no surprise to us that we're getting interest from Florida.'' He noted that Las Vegas draws more than 39 million visitors and 75,000 new residents annually -- attractive numbers for businesses. REAL ESTATE The Vegas-South Florida connection extends to real estate, too. A number of South Florida condo developers have entered the market, including Turnberry Associates of Aventura, Fortune International of Miami, WSG Development of Miami Beach and Royal Palm Communities of Boca Raton. Las Vegas is no guaranteed success. The Related Group pulled out of a much-vaunted $3 billion condo high-rise project last year after construction costs spiraled. But Opium's Jones said he feels confident because his venture is located in a branded-resort hotel. ''If you open outside the casino, it's a little tricky,'' he said.

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Originally posted by Scoops CEO of NightClubCity

yeah i heard the same thing a few days ago (for those of you questioning Scoops) haha

F that

terrible
thats probly why tiesto ant gonna be there
mansion is probly gonna be taking over during the summer to do renevations or somethin
probly adding more tables to the dancefloor
crobar was good imo except for a few things
hopefully another semi big club will open up that doesent have all that bullshit
times like these i really miss arc

Just what we need

Some1 help me with the vocals because reading this thread a song started playing in my head, "I went to 5th Ave and the is no Dance Culture"!!!

Sux when outside NY investers start pushing in their theories on what NY Club culture should be like.

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Originally posted by AY STAR terrible thats probly why tiesto ant gonna be there mansion is probly gonna be taking over during the summer to do renevations or somethin probly adding more tables to the dancefloor crobar was good imo except for a few things hopefully another semi big club will open up that doesent have all that bullshit times like these i really miss arc

well... yes, and no... i mean, ARE there any good big rooms in New York void of constant bad reviews? of course i hate to see that stuff go, but Spirit, Avalon, Exit, they all closed for one reason: people just stopped going... and that'll be the case of Pacha eventually and Studio too... I guess it's inevitable, but you know what? There's always something new coming up from the roots... In the face of glam, color, and fabulousness of the 80s clubs, the underground rave scene rose up. In the face of the big room clubs coming up less than a decade ago, the electro sound was RE-born in lofts and small roms in Brooklyn. Something's gotta give, I guess, and I think that something will, in the next few years. I mean, the more I go out, regardless of whether or not I have fun, it seems that clubs are not where people want to be. Why get herded into a big impersonal room, only to be treated like shit, overcharged, and dissapointed by the DJ, when there's a loungier spot down in Meatpacking that some fake promoter can get you in free with a few bottles to your name. Put anyone in any space with alcohol and they'll have fun. The big room is not where people want to be at the moment. And that's why I was so upset after Friday; the stuff that happened at the party embodied just about everything I hate about parties, and that was my own event. Enough of the ranting haha we'll see what direction New York goes. It's never going to "die", per-se. Through this, there will only grow a new movement and hopefully something different and refreshing.

Eco, I agree and all but I like the large scale events becuase its unity of people sharing same joy & style of life as me, and even though you have a point I'd like to take this in a different direction since if you look at other countries large scale event surviving and then @ ours in NYC (USA) where its clearly showing that we have (had) too many obstacles to be able to hang on to our club culture because of reasons beyond us and because of us. (one of the reason i wouldn't drop a copper coin into the ClubFive event to helping some politician, who doesn't give a rats arse about what i want, campaign)

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Originally posted by ReenTeenTeen Eco, I agree and all but I like the large scale events becuase its unity of people sharing same joy & style of life as me, and even though you have a point I'd like to take this in a different direction since if you look at other countries large scale event surviving and then @ ours in NYC (USA) where its clearly showing that we have (had) too many obstacles to be able to hang on to our club culture because of reasons beyond us and because of us. (one of the reason i wouldn't drop a copper coin into the ClubFive event to helping some politician, who doesn't give a rats arse about what i want, campaign)

I agree as well. Me, I love the big-room, I won't speak and put my fut in my mouth a year later, but it doesn't get any better than a huge room of 2-3000 people. However, my last post was just to say that 1% of New Yorkers are like us. Severaly years ago, you could take your friends to an PVD party and 8 out of 10 of them would say they had an amazing time. Now it's like 1 in 10 chance. Anyone I bring to a party has that sorta "yeah it was fun, but I won't do it again" reaction. The girl/guy ratio sucks, people spilling drinks, everything negative you can imagine; even kids my age can now get into all those bottle spots, so to pay 25$ to be packed into a room and have to PAY for drinks (OMG!) is like an uber-no-no for half the people in my school. It's pretty sad, but I think in the ashes of the superclub, AND the bottle spots (those will die very soon), something new and something interesting will come up, I don't know what, but I have faith it's overdue for NYC to make some waves in the global scene.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco I agree as well. Me, I love the big-room, I won't speak and put my fut in my mouth a year later, but it doesn't get any better than a huge room of 2-3000 people. However, my last post was just to say that 1% of New Yorkers are like us. Severaly years ago, you could take your friends to an PVD party and 8 out of 10 of them would say they had an amazing time. Now it's like 1 in 10 chance. Anyone I bring to a party has that sorta "yeah it was fun, but I won't do it again" reaction. The girl/guy ratio sucks, people spilling drinks, everything negative you can imagine; even kids my age can now get into all those bottle spots, so to pay 25$ to be packed into a room and have to PAY for drinks (OMG!) is like an uber-no-no for half the people in my school. It's pretty sad, but I think in the ashes of the superclub, AND the bottle spots (those will die very soon), something new and something interesting will come up, I don't know what, but I have faith it's overdue for NYC to make some waves in the global scene.

We're by far long behind in club design. Its kind of getting better but still needs an original flavor added to the recipe to have its own modern edge. Hopefully it will pop-up in NYC in the next near future like you saying but it will have to be on a grander scale. Its NYC for f*ck sake and our clubs are dindgie rat holes. Seriously, its about time somebody started to notice whats lacking here. (Although there are events like Monday nights at Guggenheim.)
There are 5 level mega-clubs in shady parts of Europe where with one fee you get full access and pretty much an open to explore club and all the features it has to offer you like pool, bowling, lounge areas, pool and much more. Its basically coming and enjoying your stay at a resort and then taking a room upstairs in a hotel all in one building. Kind of a weekend Spa. Its about NY developers catching up to the idea.

meh we'll see what happens

for now i am *NOT* excited.

megaclubs bleh. local events RULE

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Originally posted by kid nyce doesn't matter to me, i don't go to studio/crobar anymore anyways...

I like mansion in miami.

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Originally posted by pyro264jb I like mansion in miami.

miami's mansion is a gorgeous club; i reserve judgement on an nyc version until i step foot inside and get a peek at their lineups.

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Originally posted by bradley rose Tiesto is a resident at Mansion in Miami along with many othr top DJ's.

i guess they need to promote it the right way i suppose then maybe it will work but who knows

Most of the BIG trance djs are residents of Godskitchen UK but Godskitchen USA barely brought us anyone...i think they were using PVD at IKON as the test and they were gonna START bringing over the big djs...but then sh*t went down and then it was never realized

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Originally posted by pyro264jb I like mansion in miami.

do they come out with predominantly trance acts or is it more house cuz i know Miami is a house city.

Also I am curious about how Crobar Miami/Chicago is compared to Crobar NYC. Or how Pacha IBIZA is compared to PACHA NYC. I don't think it always is a reliable predictor of how a club might turn out here. It doesn't mean you get the SAME djs/producers, as much as we might want that to happen. Well you can *hope* but we will have to wait and see I suppose...

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Originally posted by phoenixBEBE do they come out with predominantly trance acts or is it more house cuz i know Miami is a house city. Also I am curious about how Crobar Miami/Chicago is compared to Crobar NYC. Or how Pacha IBIZA is compared to PACHA NYC. I don't think it always is a reliable predictor of how a club might turn out here. It doesn't mean you get the SAME djs/producers, as much as we might want that to happen. Well you can *hope* but we will have to wait and see I suppose...

Pacha NYC is NOTHING like Pacha Ibiza or Pacha Barcelona or Mallorca.

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