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Posted by Abercrombie on Apr-18-2007 18:22:

Ontario will ban the sale of incandescent light bulbs by 2012

Now that's a bright idea!

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...?hub=TopStories


Posted by Orko on Apr-18-2007 18:25:

Ah...yeah it sounds great, except for the fact that the new bulbs are filled with toxic mercury. good luck if you break it and breath in any of the dust.

Again the idea is right, the application is wrong.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Apr-18-2007 18:27:

Re: Ontario will ban the sale of incandescent light bulbs by 2012

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Now that's a bright idea!



Posted by Euphorica on Apr-18-2007 18:28:

lol good idea.

just gotta becareful cause some of them like to fail and shouldnt be used in certain places(like a bathroom where there will be lots of moisture).
although im sure manuf. are working to fix those issues.


Posted by Import on Apr-18-2007 18:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Ah...yeah it sounds great, except for the fact that the new bulbs are filled with toxic mercury. good luck if you break it and breath in any of the dust.

Again the idea is right, the application is wrong.


Elminating the clumsy one step at a time!

Im fucked


Posted by Chris Allen on Apr-18-2007 18:32:

But my dimmer switches!

I think this is a step in the right direction though. I believe Australia and California are already moving in this direction.


Posted by Abercrombie on Apr-18-2007 18:36:

I replaced most of my bulbs at home anyways.

However.... if it's the long fluorescent bulbs like here at the office and libraries, they give me headaches.

Oh... I dio want to add... no fluorescent bulb can replace the halogen lights I have in the kitchen and bathrooms... that's one drawback... but I read GE is developing a more energy efficient incandescent , so we'll see.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Apr-18-2007 18:44:

big deal... the worlds going to end in 2012 anyway....
end of the world


Posted by I_Am_Vince on Apr-18-2007 19:27:

We'll probably all drown by then from global warming so it shouldn't matter anyways


Posted by DigiNut on Apr-18-2007 21:04:

Nanny state strikes again... *sigh*

Please can we get rid of these fucking limousine liberals? Just how much more shit do Toronto residents need to have thrown at them before they get the message?

It's both hilarious and depressing that the most flattering thing that writer can think of is to say that we're following in the footsteps of Cuba and Venezuela. Retch.


Posted by Orko on Apr-18-2007 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Nanny state strikes again... *sigh*

Please can we get rid of these fucking limousine liberals? Just how much more shit do Toronto residents need to have thrown at them before they get the message?

It's both hilarious and depressing that the most flattering thing that writer can think of is to say that we're following in the footsteps of Cuba and Venezuela. Retch.


Except for the mercury content of the new bulbs, how is reducing emissions a bad thing? I am not talking about green house gases, but truly reducing the amount of energy each person in Ontario uses.


Posted by darouge11 on Apr-18-2007 21:10:

who cares


EUROCUP IN POLAND/UKRAINE 2012


Posted by DJ_Elyot on Apr-18-2007 21:13:

There do exist dimmable flourescent bulbs... I have em in my room right now.


Posted by DigiNut on Apr-18-2007 21:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Except for the mercury content of the new bulbs, how is reducing emissions a bad thing? I am not talking about green house gases, but truly reducing the amount of energy each person in Ontario uses.

Reducing "emissions" is a bunch of bullshit. Reducing energy costs is a wonderful thing for individuals to do. Reducing either of those by banning perfectly legitimate, safe, and legal products is a blatant violation of property rights and other civil rights.


Posted by StereoPrincess on Apr-18-2007 22:27:

quote:
Originally posted by darouge11
who cares


EUROCUP IN POLAND/UKRAINE 2012


lol!

yes!!


Posted by ilia on Apr-18-2007 23:52:

Love these light bulbs.. it's too bad that they are expensive here in Trinidad, which is why I tend to buy them in TO whenever I fly up.


Posted by mr. poopyhead on Apr-19-2007 00:23:

i read somewhere that all the capacitors and electronic doohickies inside the CFLs actually create more pollution in their manufacturing process than they save during their service life... and if they're not properly recycled than things really get messy.

i'm usually skeptical when governments jump on these kinds of bandwagons and everyone shouts "hooray!"

here's an article that was written in response to australia's incandescent ban: http://sound.westhost.com/articles/incandescent.htm


Posted by Jem_hadar on Apr-19-2007 00:39:

quote:
Originally posted by mr. poopyhead

i'm usually skeptical when governments jump on these kinds of bandwagons and everyone shouts "hooray!"


Remember the immortal words of Mark Twain, who said, �Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.�


Posted by mr. poopyhead on Apr-19-2007 14:47:

another article that decries these hasty bandwagon policies...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...in_page_id=1770


Posted by Fast Turtle on Apr-19-2007 18:33:

Coal plants at the moment produce much more mercury than these light bulbs will in landfills. However, there's not really much of a reason to ban old lights, I'm sure people will not hesitate to go out and buy them themselves because of growing energy costs...


Posted by Abercrombie on Apr-19-2007 18:36:

cost savings is the #1 motivator. People in general won't care enough about the environment until it costs them too much.


Posted by Izra on Apr-19-2007 18:43:

From a commercial Interior Design perspective, this is a huge issue. Fluorescent light is great for energy saving, but creates a very cool, white light. In some cases this works well, but for example in restaurant design, fluorescent bulbs do not render food well, and do not create a warm, ambient feel that is sometimes desired. You can achieve this with halogen, but its not the same as incadescent.


Posted by Marcolissimo on Apr-19-2007 19:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
big deal... the worlds going to end in 2012 anyway....
end of the world


oh good... that's way before the end of my mortgage term... I win, woohooo


Posted by Orko on Apr-25-2007 18:07:

Looks like Ottawa is going to make this national.



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