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Posted by Scolomon on Apr-19-2007 16:05:

Suggestions: Fun add ons to add to your dj setup

I just added a vermona action filter II plus the other day. I love the control it gives me over the resonance of my sound. Besides a efx 1000, what else have you guys come across that really improves the quality of your mixing?


Posted by Freak on Apr-19-2007 16:14:

The vermonas are awesome- top choice.
Choice of the pros too- on many dj's riders those are.

Personally, switching to rotary mixers marked a big change in mixing sty1e and sound.


Posted by Scolomon on Apr-19-2007 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
The vermonas are awesome- top choice.
Choice of the pros too- on many dj's riders those are.

Personally, switching to rotary mixers marked a big change in mixing sty1e and sound.


the rotary dials for the djm 800 are like 100 something dollars, hard for me to rationalize spending 100 dollars on 4 knobs
But maybe i will


Posted by DJ Tee on Apr-19-2007 17:08:

Re: Suggestions: Fun add ons to add to your dj setup

quote:
Originally posted by Scolomon
I just added a vermona action filter II plus the other day. I love the control it gives me over the resonance of my sound. Besides a efx 1000, what else have you guys come across that really improves the quality of your mixing?



beer my friend..mixing without it kinda hinders my hands; even when im doin in my room..so i just make sure i get a few bottles b4 every session..TRYI IT! its fun


Posted by Stu Cox on Apr-19-2007 17:39:

Re: Suggestions: Fun add ons to add to your dj setup

quote:
Originally posted by Scolomon
I just added a vermona action filter II plus the other day. I love the control it gives me over the resonance of my sound. Besides a efx 1000, what else have you guys come across that really improves the quality of your mixing?

A 2x RCA to 2x mono 1/4" jack cable... not sure if it necessarily improves the quality of my mixing, but it's good fun! When connected from the fx send into a channel on my DN-X1500, it allows me to play the sampler back through a channel and thus use EQ etc on it

There are quite a lot of quite useful things you can do with some creative wiring


Posted by Ryan0751 on Apr-19-2007 18:00:

I think it's more than $100 actually.

I know I paid like $300 or something more for my 92 with rotaries.

It's not just the knobs, don't forget thost velvetty expensive pots underneath. They go for quite a bit on their own (at least $30 a piece just for the part).

Rotaries definately change the way you mix. I just did a super smooth mix last night without touching the eq's or anything else on the mixer... just careful volume control is all you need.

Filters are definately another super-useful item to have...

quote:
Originally posted by Scolomon
the rotary dials for the djm 800 are like 100 something dollars, hard for me to rationalize spending 100 dollars on 4 knobs
But maybe i will


Posted by agentdansmith on Apr-19-2007 18:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751

Filters are definately another super-useful item to have...


Couldn't agree more - I'm so glad I chose the filters on the 92 over the effects on the Nuo5


Posted by Scolomon on Apr-19-2007 18:37:

do most people use 1 filter per cdj? i am poor so i am using one through my send recieve right now.
Is there another way i can use my one filter in conjunction with both cdjs AND use the effects onboard the djm 800 at the same time to layer them?
I know i could prob do this if i connected the mixer >filter > output but then when i recorded the filter wouldnt be present in the mix.
Any suggestions?


Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-19-2007 19:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak


Personally, switching to rotary mixers marked a big change in mixing sty1e and sound.


+1

Have been mixing on more and more rotaries in clubs (mainly the rane) and I think it's really pushing me to excel in my track selection... if you pick the 2 perfect jams it's like butter on a rotary.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Apr-19-2007 23:59:

Doesn't the 800 have an efx send/return? As long as you can "affect" the master output (or one cdj at a time if you prefer), you should be fine.

Though "layering" them might be a bit much

quote:
Originally posted by Scolomon
do most people use 1 filter per cdj? i am poor so i am using one through my send recieve right now.
Is there another way i can use my one filter in conjunction with both cdjs AND use the effects onboard the djm 800 at the same time to layer them?
I know i could prob do this if i connected the mixer >filter > output but then when i recorded the filter wouldnt be present in the mix.
Any suggestions?


Posted by Scolomon on Apr-20-2007 00:26:

it does have a send return, thats what i am doing now, what i want to do is use the onboard effects AND the filter at the same time AND record it


Posted by Ryan0751 on Apr-20-2007 10:29:

But why are you CURRENTLY using the send/return if you are using the ONBOARD effects?

The s/r is for external effects... and it should be present on the record out?

Or does the 800 not let you use both at once?

quote:
Originally posted by Scolomon
it does have a send return, thats what i am doing now, what i want to do is use the onboard effects AND the filter at the same time AND record it


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Apr-20-2007 13:03:

the way the 800 works is that it has a send/return that routes directly in to the effects circuit. the effects knob on the 800 switches between the various on-board effects as well as through the send-return circuit which is why you can only use one or the other. the 800 considers the send/return as an "Extra effect" in that sense.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Apr-20-2007 13:10:

Ahh... that's a little dumb, but clean I suppose.

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
the way the 800 works is that it has a send/return that routes directly in to the effects circuit. the effects knob on the 800 switches between the various on-board effects as well as through the send-return circuit which is why you can only use one or the other. the 800 considers the send/return as an "Extra effect" in that sense.


Posted by Scolomon on Apr-20-2007 15:27:

yeah, so any ideas?


Posted by Ryan0751 on Apr-20-2007 16:48:

I think you already mentioned the only options... placing a filter unit on the master out.

Or, buy two and stick one between each CDJ and your mixer (which would cost a fortune).

The VF-1 has two sets of outputs on the back, one balance and one unbalanced. You could record off of one of them... of course you wouldn't be able to change the master volume while you record.

Still, I'm not sure you need BOTH the DJM-800's effects AND the filter going at the same time, but that's just me.

Edit: One more suggestion - Sell the DJM-800, buy a Xone 92 and an EFX-1000 Solved!

quote:
Originally posted by Scolomon
yeah, so any ideas?


Posted by miamitranceman on Apr-21-2007 04:21:

Yeah, I was wondering why you went with an ext filter. Do you notice a big difference form the 800s on board filter?


Posted by Stu Cox on Apr-21-2007 09:24:

The Vermona sounds 1000x better than Pioneer's on-board one - being a very high quality analogue one, it uses natural resonance rather than digitally imitating it, which sounds SO much warmer... although of course the main benefit is you've got so much more control over it, actually having a separate cutoff frequency and resonance controls for both high and low pass filtering, rather one knob to do both high and low pass cutoff and the resonance as well... (on the Pioneer it just increases the resonance a bit as you filter up or down)

Personally I'm quite a big fan of the Electrix Filter Queen and Filter Factory, in terms of functionality - I think the Vermona sounds a little bit better, but the Electrix ones aren't bad by any stretch, although they don't make them anymore (it's a shame that they look a bit plasticy):

Filter Queen:


Filter Factory:


(Click the images for more info)

I've been tempted to buy one for a while



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