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Posted by discobiscuit on Apr-20-2007 07:19:

ISO Tracks in B minor and D Flat Minor

hey guys i've been putting a lot of time into harmonic mixing lately. i bought, downloaded, and keyed about 75 songs, but have none in D Flat Minor and only one in B Minor. can you guys help me out with some good songs in those two keys?

(track, artist, remixer, and key)

thanks
bisco

ps i could also use some tracks in major keys if you wanna help me out


Posted by Alex on Apr-20-2007 07:32:

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I think you're going about harmonic mixing the wrong way, use it as a guideline not a nessecity, otherwise your sets are going to diminish very quickly in quality unless you're the type that spends ALL of his time getting new tunes, and mean ALL.

Don't pick tunes based on their key, well do it if you want to but not every DJ that mixes in key makes sure EVERY transition is in key, some transitions just sound good regardless.


Posted by agentdansmith on Apr-20-2007 08:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Alex
......

I think you're going about harmonic mixing the wrong way, use it as a guideline not a nessecity, otherwise your sets are going to diminish very quickly in quality unless you're the type that spends ALL of his time getting new tunes, and mean ALL.

Don't pick tunes based on their key, well do it if you want to but not every DJ that mixes in key makes sure EVERY transition is in key, some transitions just sound good regardless.


Good point!!

Also, you can't get EDM in major keys - it's just never done.


Posted by discobiscuit on Apr-20-2007 09:57:

well, even though my thread has been shot down and close to dying, i would still appreciate it if someone would list a few songs in each of those keys for me... this wasn't a thread of opinion and i sure as hell wasnt asking for advice. i just had a simple request:

d flat minor and b minor

thanks in advance


Posted by Stu Cox on Apr-20-2007 10:23:

quote:
Originally posted by agentdansmith
Good point!!

Also, you can't get EDM in major keys - it's just never done.

It is occasionally...

System F - Out Of The Blue is in Gmaj, for example

But yeah, they're pretty few and far between.


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Apr-20-2007 13:04:

tracks are rarely produced in Major keys, but you will find some every now and then. also as someone already mentioned harmonics are a guideline, not a method.


Posted by KilldaDJ on Apr-20-2007 13:08:

remix it urself and key it to ur key of choice.


Posted by agentdansmith on Apr-20-2007 13:09:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
also as someone already mentioned harmonics are a guideline, not a method.


Yep, some of the best mixes I've done are between two tunes are not harmonically compatible.


Posted by agentdansmith on Apr-20-2007 13:10:

quote:
Originally posted by KilldaDJ
remix it urself and key it to ur key of choice.


You can do this but I respect the talents of the producer to know what key the track should be in


Posted by KilldaDJ on Apr-20-2007 13:16:

quote:
Originally posted by agentdansmith
You can do this but I respect the talents of the producer to know what key the track should be in


ture, when i remix, i usually leave it in whatever key they originally made it in, its very rare for me to change the key of a track when im remixing it (unless it doesnt go well with my particular synth set or some other technical anomalie)


Posted by Ryan0751 on Apr-20-2007 13:40:

Usually when they are in a major key they tend to sound cheesy for some reason...

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
tracks are rarely produced in Major keys, but you will find some every now and then. also as someone already mentioned harmonics are a guideline, not a method.


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Apr-20-2007 13:49:

some have argued that minor keys provoke more emotion. harmonics today are actually different than centuries ago...keys are not the same as they used to be in the 15th century, and so on. my roommate tried to explain this to me (his dad is a member of the philadelphia orchestra) and I didnt quite get it but it makes sense how minor keys today would be more emotional as opposed to previously.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Apr-20-2007 14:04:

Well, what you have to realize is that we just sort of "picked" frequencies which we make our music with... Kind of like how we chose to use 10 digits to do most math (10 fingers, probably).

Todays modern instruments are all tuned to A440 pitch. During the Baroque period, they tuned their instruments a little differently. You can still go to concerts and hear baroque music played on a clavichord tuned to a different pitch.

Eastern music also uses different harmonics.

This wikipedia article is interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_(music)

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
some have argued that minor keys provoke more emotion. harmonics today are actually different than centuries ago...keys are not the same as they used to be in the 15th century, and so on. my roommate tried to explain this to me (his dad is a member of the philadelphia orchestra) and I didnt quite get it but it makes sense how minor keys today would be more emotional as opposed to previously.


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Apr-20-2007 15:02:

glad someone could express this much better than i could

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
Well, what you have to realize is that we just sort of "picked" frequencies which we make our music with... Kind of like how we chose to use 10 digits to do most math (10 fingers, probably).

Todays modern instruments are all tuned to A440 pitch. During the Baroque period, they tuned their instruments a little differently. You can still go to concerts and hear baroque music played on a clavichord tuned to a different pitch.

Eastern music also uses different harmonics.

This wikipedia article is interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_(music)


Posted by Beatflux on Apr-20-2007 16:03:

Re: ISO Tracks in B minor and D Flat Minor

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
hey guys i've been putting a lot of time into harmonic mixing lately. i bought, downloaded, and keyed about 75 songs, but have none in D Flat Minor and only one in B Minor. can you guys help me out with some good songs in those two keys?

(track, artist, remixer, and key)

thanks
bisco

ps i could also use some tracks in major keys if you wanna help me out



10A:

Alphazone - Rockin(Original mix)
Love theme dusk(signal runners sunrise mix)

12A:

hiver & hammer - Fusion 2006(original mix)

11B:

DJ Manta - Holding On(Armin Van Buuren's Rising Star Remix)
Loafer - Travelogue(Original Mix)

8B:

Seven Cities(Armin Van Buuren Remix)

12B:

Elevation - Blinding Truth(Original Mix)


Posted by discobiscuit on Apr-21-2007 08:20:

Re: Re: ISO Tracks in B minor and D Flat Minor

quote:
Originally posted by Beatflux
10A:

Alphazone - Rockin(Original mix)
Love theme dusk(signal runners sunrise mix)

12A:

hiver & hammer - Fusion 2006(original mix)

11B:

DJ Manta - Holding On(Armin Van Buuren's Rising Star Remix)
Loafer - Travelogue(Original Mix)

8B:

Seven Cities(Armin Van Buuren Remix)

12B:

Elevation - Blinding Truth(Original Mix)


thanks a lot


Posted by stan229 on Apr-22-2007 05:04:

6B:
Signalrunners pres. Syndica - Aria Epica ( Bart Claeesen remix )

8B:
Markus Schulz feat. Carrie Skipper - Never Be The Same Again (Jose Amnesia & Shawn Mitiska Remix)

edit found more (which relate more to topic):

10A:
Fictivision vs. C-Quence - Symbols (Kimito Lopez Remix)
Ferry Corsten - Beatiful ( Extended Original )
Deep Voices - Rising (Thomas Datt & Robert Nickson Remix)



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