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Posted by Enigmatic XTC on Apr-23-2007 08:45:

Is it wrong to give your baby a tattoo?

I was watching the national geographic channel, and they had some show on all about tattoos and this couple were showing their infant baby who had a tattoo on its arm. I couldn't decide if thats wrong or not.


Posted by Yan on Apr-23-2007 08:47:

Re: Is it wrong to give your baby a tattoo?

quote:
Originally posted by Enigmatic XTC
I was watching the national geographic channel, and they had some show on all about tattoos and this couple were showing their infant baby who had a tattoo on its arm. I couldn't decide if thats wrong or not.


The Native Americans are cool with it.


Posted by kadomony on Apr-23-2007 08:54:

its probably gonna get fucked up as the kid grows


Posted by Fledz on Apr-23-2007 09:27:

Wouldn't it stretch badly?

Na, definitely not right. Not right at all.


Posted by Taranis on Apr-23-2007 09:30:

Incredibly wrong.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-23-2007 09:44:

No more wrong than severing their foreskin or raising them to believe that their lives will make sense one day if they put their faith in Jesus.


Posted by netroM on Apr-23-2007 10:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No more wrong than severing their foreskin or raising them to believe that their lives will make sense one day if they put their faith in Jesus.

qft


Posted by Ian on Apr-23-2007 11:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No more wrong than severing their foreskin or raising them to believe that their lives will make sense one day if they put their faith in Jesus.


indeed. As Yan said some groups like native indians do it, and who are we to argue with their customs & values. You could carry on and say about parents who have their kids ears pierced, the school near us, one woman was picking up her kid and they park on our street & this kid of about 6 had 2 earrings in each ear already.


Posted by Saka on Apr-23-2007 11:55:

Wrong.


Posted by requiemofnanqel on Apr-23-2007 13:15:

Incredibly wrong. I call that abuse to an extent, the pain for that poor infant.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-23-2007 13:16:

How is it wrong, you fools? It's a big part of some cultures.


Posted by narcism on Apr-23-2007 13:25:

they are only gonna get one when they turn 14 anyway


Posted by Lira on Apr-23-2007 13:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No more wrong than severing their foreskin or raising them to believe that their lives will make sense one day if they put their faith in Jesus.

Beat me to it, although it's certainly not restricted Christian/Abrahamic cultures. There's no way you could claim it's wrong if you support circumcision, for example.

In my case, however, I wouldn't encourage it because the child should be able to choose what they want to have done on their body.


Posted by Taranis on Apr-23-2007 13:55:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
How is it wrong, you fools? It's a big part of some cultures.


If it's a cultural thing that's one thing, but if some dumb bitch decides one day that her baby would look cool with barbed wire around it's arm or something dumb, that's what's messed up.

And it's far worse than piercings, piercings you can just take out and they'll heal over.

Circumcision isn't a big deal either imo, it hardly makes any difference :/ I'd never get my kid circumcised, but it's not like it's something they'll hate you for when they get older.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Apr-23-2007 13:58:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
How is it wrong, you fools? It's a big part of some cultures.

What does that matter? Female genital mutilation is also a big part of some cultures. A violation of rights is still a violation of rights even if lots of people engage in it.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-23-2007 13:59:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
What does that matter? Female genital mutilation is also a big part of some cultures. A violation of rights is still a violation of rights even if lots of people engage in it.




Oh god.


Posted by igottaknow on Apr-23-2007 13:59:

if jenny says its not wrong then it must me ok.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Apr-23-2007 14:00:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Oh god.

Very cogent argument!


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-23-2007 14:01:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
if jenny says its not wrong then it must me ok.




Actually that's not what I said.


Posted by igottaknow on Apr-23-2007 14:02:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Actually that's not what I said.

do you ever use rolleyes in your essays?


Posted by shaw on Apr-23-2007 14:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Beat me to it, although it's certainly not restricted Christian/Abrahamic cultures. There's no way you could claim it's wrong if you support circumcision, for example.


One might point out that the product of circumcision is not outwardly visible in most normal activities for the rest of your life


Posted by shaw on Apr-23-2007 14:13:

also, as for the "it's a big part of some cultures" claim, that's worthless. Treating women worse than animals and giving them no rights to do anything, whatsoever, and throwing them in jail when they get gang raped, since they were in the presence of other men is also a part of other cultures. That doesn't make it right.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Apr-23-2007 14:15:

A list of some practices that have been important to various cultures:

Foot binding, fattening rooms, seppuku, sati, slavery, abandonment of deformed infants, social ostracism (or stoning) for adultery and fornication, caste systems, forced religious conversion, enforced standards of "modest dress," keeping women uneducated, beating children to get them to behave.

Maybe you all can think of some others, too.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Apr-23-2007 14:17:

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
One might point out that the product of circumcision is not outwardly visible in most normal activities for the rest of your life

Yes, but infant circumcision still means inflicting a significant amount of pain on a non-consenting person for no good reason.


Posted by shaw on Apr-23-2007 14:18:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Yes, but infant circumcision still means inflicting a significant amount of pain on a non-consenting person for no good reason.


actually, there are health benefits to it.


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